Toms PC1066 RDRAM Review.

interesting article... once again showing us that high end processors DEMAND lots of memory bandwidth.

i just wonder however how many people will buy the 533fsb/PC1066 RDRAM solution when dual channel DDR chipsets come out latter this year.

Consider:
PC800 RDRAM gives you 1.6Gb/sec, total of 3.2Gb/sec in dual channel.
the new PC1066 will give a total of 4.2Gb/sec...
yet a dual channel DDR chipset using very standard PC2100 ddr ram will also give 4.2Gb/sec. and once again we will see that the high speed RDRAM will be at a price premium for a considerable amount of time, untill it becomes mainstream.
its known that Via is working on not one but two dual channel P4 chipsets, and it would be foolish to think that Sis wasnt either.
so late this year we can expect the P4X600 and P4X800... using PC2400 and PC3200 DDR ram respectivly. i wonder how RDRAM will stack up then...

and where does this leave AMD?
we have been shown that using 2.7Gb/sec PC2700 DDR with a fsb of only 266 (2.1Gb/sec) gives you very marginal benifits at best...
and is the probable reason why the dual channel nforce really cant give that much more memory performance despite have twice the bandwidth.

will AMD rise to the inevatable challenge and release a 333 fsb T-bred chip?
i hope so... for there sake.

comments? flames? applications to mensa? sexual offers? - all will be accepted, but ill just laught at flames and call u a wiener.

"I came, I saw, I overclocked", Julius 'Smokin CPU' Caesar

<A HREF="http://www.pcscoop.com/hardware/articles/roadmaps/VIA/" target="_new">http://www.pcscoop.com/hardware/articles/roadmaps/VIA/</A>

there was a goodie somewhere, but this aint it... doesnt really give much info besides
P4X600
P4@400/533
128bit DDR266/333
etc

im assuming here that 128bit DDR is dual channel as the P4X266 & P4X333 are just labeled as DDR266/333.

more info over at <A HREF="http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/" target="_new">http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/</A> if u care to hunt around.

P.S. there is an article over at <A HREF="http://www.vanshardware.com/articles/2002/02/020222_No_Rambus_For_Hammer/020222_No_Rambus_For_Hammer.htm" target="_new">http://www.vanshardware.com/articles/2002/02/020222_No_Rambus_For_Hammer/020222_No_Rambus_For_Hammer.htm</A> saying that the inital chipset for hammer will be dualchannel PC2700 (5.4gb/sec) yum.

"I came, I saw, I overclocked", Julius 'Smokin CPU' Caesar

oooooo!
bingo!
someone has finally done a benchmark of a kt333 board at 133/166 AND 166/166.

looks as if 166/166 rocks like it should!

<A HREF="http://www.hardwarepub.com/reviews/motherboards/epoxkt333/index_1.shtml" target="_new">http://www.hardwarepub.com/reviews/motherboards/epoxkt333/index_5.shtml</A>

"I came, I saw, I overclocked", Julius 'Smokin CPU' Caesar <P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by lhgpoobaa on 02/25/02 07:57 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

i fixed the link.. it should work now.
if it still doesnt work, go to their homepage.
nice benchies too
the 166/166 on the epox was crapping all over the nforce

"I came, I saw, I overclocked", Julius 'Smokin CPU' Caesar

WOW!!!
This not only is impressive, it truly shows a 66MHZ jump can easily make a difference! My god I'd swear it's more than the P4 with the 133MHZ FSB and 266MHZ RAM added!
Epox is indeed showing some awesome results, and I know they are some of the best, I own the 8KHA+, award winner indeed. I do hope the best for them, they've shown us how the future AXPs will perform, and not only that, but this is just an early sample so it should improve more!!! Couple that with the Tbred and we should see some PRETTY NICE OCing and performance indeed! Wait till AMD_Man reads this.

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For the first time, Hookers are hooked on Phonics!!

all to do with what one has at hand i suppose...
ive privately emailed the guy and he said he had NO TROUBLES AT ALL running his kingmax DDR at 166 and hard memory timings... unlike the problems that toms review had.

they dont say what multipliers were used, but i suspect he used a athlon 1333 as it is at a special speed i.e.
10 x 133 = 1333
8 x 166 = 1333

he did however have trouble running 166/166 on the iwill XP333, but thats obviously some chipset problem.

so far i think the epox is top of my list for purchacing

1. proven 166fsb working
2. 3 ram slots
3. all those goodies like ata-133 usb2.0
4. raid
5. empty area around CPU socket for big big heatsinks like my MCX-462!


"I came, I saw, I overclocked", Julius 'Smokin CPU' Caesar

did anyone notice Pentium 2*666* <--- mark of The Beast. 'nuff said.

lhgpoobaa, thanks for the link. It was an interesting comparison. What I found specifically interesting though was that no where in the review was a 133/333 compared to a 166/333. It jumps from 133/266 to 166/333. Talk about strange.

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