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February 28, 2002 3:07:46 PM

was: AMD STEALS TECHNOLOGY!!!!!

check out this link:

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"<b>AMD/VIA!</b>...you are <i>still</i> the weakest link, good bye!"<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by AmdMELTDOWN on 03/02/02 03:25 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

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February 28, 2002 3:24:36 PM

...and AMDMetldown will always be AMDMeltdown! :tongue:

AMD technology + Intel technology = Intel/AMD Pentathlon IV; the <b>ULTIMATE</b> PC processor
February 28, 2002 3:27:43 PM

This article makes perfect sense, since we've been seeing all of those new AMDRAM modules floating around.

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February 28, 2002 4:10:18 PM

AMDMELTDOWN'S CAPS LOCK KEY IS STUCK!!!!

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February 28, 2002 5:30:51 PM

Are you a Lawyer, News Anchorman, Politician, or Sanitation Specialist? You sure know how to dig up the dirty on a company that keeps Intel running for their life. Or, could you possibly be a Pyromaniac? Sorry...I got to run because I feels the heat of the flames.........bye.

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February 28, 2002 5:52:38 PM

This is Toms, not the enquirer. Let us know when there is proof of some kind not just a baseless accusation. While this may or may not be true there is no proof so since this is america (I know you guys are from all over the world, no offense, but this server and AMD as a company are from America) you are innocent until proven guilty!

Jesus saves, but Mario scores!!!
February 28, 2002 7:26:54 PM

So Saifun Semiconductors Ltd. says that someone stole it lolly-pop. Rambus Inc. said Infineon Technologies AG stole theirs. A few months later and a few million dollars later a federal judge said that they couldn't file patent-infringement lawsuits against them because they had no case. Someone was whining and made up a story. Well, Al Gore did invent the Internet. Maybe Rambus wasn't making up any stories after all and maybe Saifun isn't either.

That whole article was ambiguous. They could have said, “Dogs barking, can’t fly without umbrellas.” That at least would have made more sense. (Anyone know the movie that quote is from?) It is a he said, she said argument. Finger pointing and no real facts. I agree with keif here that “This is Toms, not the Enquirer. Let us know when there is proof of some kind not just a baseless accusation.”

<b>"Taurelilomea-tumbalemorna Tumbaletaurea Lomeanor" - Treebeard</b> :lol: 
February 28, 2002 7:33:00 PM

whatever...

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February 28, 2002 10:04:02 PM

"Israel-based Saifun"

Hey! Im form Israel.
trust me on this one thing - this law suit is a joke
we just like to lawsuit alot... we once lawsuit the spice girls! it was sorta of a big thing around here - nothing came out of it...

were really a crapy nation...

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February 28, 2002 10:19:46 PM

But as you can see we have a good sense of self-judgment.

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February 28, 2002 10:31:12 PM

Nah
Isreal is kewl, its a great military base for the USA. Most skilled pilots/troops in the world thanks to thier everyday on the job training!!

(OK, ill prolly get flamed for this one)

Jesus saves, but Mario scores!!!
February 28, 2002 11:12:54 PM

big deal. Intel has been stealing people's money for a long time.

<font color=red>DO NOT LIGHT YOURSELF ON FIRE</font color=red>
February 28, 2002 11:58:02 PM

Intel sells many products. You do not have to purchase any of them. To say they steal money is to commit libel. Intel has never stolen anything.

I am not going to comment on the article about AMD because nothing has been proven in a court of law. But I will comment on your post. What you did was wrong.

-Raystonn


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March 1, 2002 12:08:55 AM

what, you still around? I figured you imploded or something or maybe your watercooling experiment blew up in your face.



"<b>AMD/VIA!</b>...you are <i>still</i> the weakest link, good bye!"
March 1, 2002 12:20:52 AM

Quote:

I figured ..


Hehe, that gave me a laugh.

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March 1, 2002 1:45:55 AM

Most of the major US tech companies (Intel, M$, Motorola to name a few) have large design and development teams in Israel as well. And for good reason

1) The top notch schools/education system that, even embattled as they are, they manage to give their children outstanding educations

2) This may get me flamed by some...but they have a tendency to stick to plans. When a decision is made to follow a path, they generally will proceed...without the US issue of corporate ADD.

Course..they have to be focused because lack of focus might..well..let's not even pursue that thought...

Mark-



When all else fails, throw your computer out the window!!!
March 1, 2002 2:17:35 AM

The biggest problem here with US supporting 100% with Israel is that it is one of the sources of us arabs being angry at US. Not me though, but I share the pain most arabs in the regions surrounding Israel. Like I pointed out once, I am Lebanese, in 1996 when I was there living, I experience seeing Israeli war planes bombarding our electricity. We're still and much of the arab countries angry at the US for not properly funding and supporting us too, which has caused so much terrorism.... Oh well...
I don't really hate anybody, but they do...
Lucky though, Lebanon is now neutral on Israel, making us in the middle of a conflict between Israel and Palestine...
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For the first time, Hookers are hooked on Phonics!!<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Eden on 02/28/02 11:24 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
March 1, 2002 2:36:09 AM

"Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken"
But typing in all caps will make you that much closer to being "1337" like AmdMELTDOWN

"Why can't I be the man? I mean, I DO have harmony balls..." -epoth
March 1, 2002 2:53:40 AM

Hey AMDMeltdown do you own a Nvidia product in your system ??? Cuz you would make a crappy ATi user....

THGC, saving 1 pc user from buying a GeForce4 MX at a time.
March 1, 2002 3:36:27 AM

i visit about 4 or 5 web forums... i am really well known on 2 of them... and bar none... MELTEDDICK is the king TROLL of them all

SUPER TROLL

i mean i favor AMD... but i have a life filled with more fun things than SCOURING THE WEB for any possible thing to put a company down for...

MELTEDDICK you are SUPER TROLL

even fugger makes an intelligent post once in a blue moon...

i should intodruce you to the INTEL DEATH SQUAD better known as the IDS.... they are always looking for TROLLS to join in the battle against HATED AMD
March 1, 2002 4:28:30 AM

wow, i have never heard of another company stealing technology before, im sure no one else does it. i mean, geez i thought big buisness' practices were all completely leagal... grow up melty, get a damn job and stop trying to preach intel to every one. does your mommy know what a pain in the ass you are here?

i went to the tomshardware forums and all i got was this lousy signature.
March 1, 2002 5:39:13 AM

"We're still and much of the arab countries angry at the US for not properly funding and supporting us too, which has caused so much terrorism.... Oh well... "


Didn't know we were obligated to do that for anyone...


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March 1, 2002 6:56:55 AM

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The biggest problem here with US supporting 100% with Israel is that it is one of the sources of us arabs being angry at US. Not me though, but I share the pain most arabs in the regions surrounding Israel. Like I pointed out once, I am Lebanese, in 1996 when I was there living, I experience seeing Israeli war planes bombarding our electricity. We're still and much of the arab countries angry at the US for not properly funding and supporting us too, which has caused so much terrorism.... Oh well...
I don't really hate anybody, but they do...

The reason the US supports Israel is that there are outnumbered 10 to 1. Also, they are a democracy. As in every country there are Good and Bad people. The Good people in the arab countries need to get rid of the Bad ones and focus their energy on rebuilding their schools, roads, and buildings instead of trying to blow up someone elses buildings. If they would get rid of the Sadams and Arafats and have elections for their leaders the US would be more inclined to help. Rich countries like Saudi Arabia & Kuwait should be the ones supplying the cash too but more and more I think they would rather spend their money on guys like Bin Laden. The US isn't perfect but we are more fair than anyone else in the world.
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March 1, 2002 10:27:55 AM

yeah... right...

:cool: <b><font color=blue>I like Intel</font color=blue><font color=red> but </font color=red><font color=green>AMD Rulez!</font color=green></b> :cool:
March 1, 2002 11:01:28 AM

Agreed, I hate every single one of the arab leaders. Each of them cause nothing but pain and make the peace process worse. But Sharon's no prize either. I recall him being known as the Beirut Bulldozer or something for being someone who has hatred over Lebanese people back in the 1970 war. Dunno if it was true, but still none of my family likes him, they prefered earlier Israel leaders.
If only our Lebanese Prime Minister would get rid of the damn Hezbollah.
I love the USA man, it's where I wanna work in the future, North America is nothing but good people!

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For the first time, Hookers are hooked on Phonics!!
March 1, 2002 12:45:38 PM

Why should the USA fund anyone and countries expect it? The USA has it own debt. The problem is the rich are over rich and the poor very poor not allot of middle class. It is to unbalance.

Jeff
March 1, 2002 2:02:12 PM

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The US isn't perfect but we are more fair than anyone else in the world.

What exacly make you say that ?
Do you LIVE in another country getting shoot by US weapons ?
Do you LIVE in another country getting to shoot whit US weapons ?

I'm not saying that i agree with Ben Laden or the other twitts like this bastard ,but there is a lot more to see thatn just who is wright or wrong ,it takes 2 to make a fight ,both sides think there are the wright ones ,did you know that Hitler was one of the most loved man in the wolrd before the 2nd WW , the same could apply to Sadam ,why would a nation fallow someone like that??Because the man gives them good points for it...ok he must hide alot for this,but still do you realy think that your gouvernement tells you everything...i dont think so !!!






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March 1, 2002 7:35:15 PM

Your whole post was just incredibly ignorant, but i'll just pick on one thing in it for now.

"did you know that Hitler was one of the most loved man in the wolrd before the 2nd WW , the same could apply to Sadam ,why would a nation fallow someone like that??"

Because they have no other choice to follow sadam and would most likely be killed if they had something to say about it. So just because he's in control of iraq doesn't mean people there "follow" him.



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March 1, 2002 7:54:12 PM

Ok not funding, but I meant support, at least if could get some allying with them, some friendship showing!

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For the first time, Hookers are hooked on Phonics!!
March 1, 2002 8:06:28 PM

Isn't lebanon considered a terrorist state?

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March 1, 2002 8:20:10 PM

Sort of but they have backed off big time, they took their lesson well. Lebanon will still harbor the occasional terrorist, but has been known to expel some of the more notorious ones from their country. Lebanon is not considered much of a Terrorist threat anymore.

Blah, Blah Blahh, Blahh, blahh blah blahh, blah blah.
March 1, 2002 8:20:20 PM

Sort of but they have backed off big time, they took their lesson well. Lebanon will still harbor the occasional terrorist, but has been known to expel some of the more notorious ones from their country. Lebanon is not considered much of a Terrorist threat anymore.

Blah, Blah Blahh, Blahh, blahh blah blahh, blah blah.
March 1, 2002 8:21:03 PM

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Hitler was one of the most loved man in the wolrd before the 2nd WW

Get your facts right!

Hitler was the most popular leader of the German nation ever. He was also the most popular leader any country ever had. One of the votes came in at around 98% for him.

That does NOT make him the most popular in the world!!!
You are asking for trouble with comments like that. I suggest you keep them to yourself.

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March 1, 2002 8:58:36 PM

note to iib, lawsuit is not a verb.

its not that intel CANT make a good processor, its that they just dont try
March 1, 2002 9:06:17 PM

comment on Eden's post on page 2: HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAH LOL LOL LOL LOL OMG HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, sorry i couldnt resist. That post had SOOOO many funny mistakes in it. "they bombarded our electricity", "when i was there living" dont you mean living there. im just jokin Eden dont take it personally, if i had to take Lebanese emersion classes i would probably suck at speaking your language two year later too. Things said in this post do not neccessarily reflect the ideas or tendencies of anyone but me.

its not that intel CANT make a good processor, its that they just dont try
March 1, 2002 9:35:46 PM

In response to varlo's message on page 2: hahahahahhahaahhahahahahah, lol, geeze, you had a lot of mistakes too. By the way, the only time you spell the word right "wright" is when your'e in american history class and the topic is the Wright Brothers. "Shoot" is not past tense. "Man" is not plural, that would be men. Nice job spelling government! (gouvernement)--you let me know when that version of UT comes out. "Fallow" is spelled follow. It's not "Ben Laden" it's "Bin Laden" and hes not "this bastard" hes "that bastard". "Thatn" is just "that", no extra n. "Exacly" is spelled "exactly". "Whit" is spelled "with". The space goes behind the comma not in front of it. "There" is not a contraction meaning they are, that would be "they're". Also there are always spaces after periods, and commas, not before.

Please, no one get mad at me, I'm not always like this, I hardly ever correct peoples little mistakes, that would be a trollish thing to do, but his message was SO grammatically incorrect that I couldn't resist!

its not that intel CANT make a good processor, its that they just dont try
March 1, 2002 9:47:56 PM

Your not too good at organizing your thought's either willamette. Might be easier to read your post if it wasn't one huge paragraph of trying to correct someone.

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March 1, 2002 11:29:18 PM

Hmm even I didn't know that! Thanks man for backing me here man!
Although we still have one major terrorist group, they never showed up in any part of the country except staying low in the south, which is the poor side, and neither I or anybody I know goes there. So basically we are indeed neutral and granted, removing Hezbollah would show the US that we are ready for peace anytime. I doubt there are anymore conflicts with Israel and that is nice to hear, now if only Arafat could just wake up and smell the coffee and do something! When I see those protestors on the streets all the time over there, I can't help but wonder what sick idiots they are! Burning Bush figures, US flags...my ass, they do this with no benefit. "sigh", the arab world has become incredibly prejudiced because of these and has gained the idea of terrorism in its heart, where in fact we are very peaceful people, always generous and the fact we have not complained yet about Israel+US, shows how much we can take before giving in. It's just those muslim terrorists that have radical beleifs, and are also putting the Muslim Religion on a different view. I'm not muslim but many of my friends are, and none beleive what the terrorists or the arab people over there think about US, are right, and none go so radical over their Quran.

Wow this has turned into a political party here! Oh well, it'll teach melty not to put useless topics.

And Willamette_sucks, I don't do syntax errors as much as you, and leave varlo off this, he's french like me, and he does errors too you know, so back off.

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For the first time, Hookers are hooked on Phonics!!
March 2, 2002 12:51:13 AM

Willamette wasnt that bad of processor. It was just too much to buy.

THGC, saving 1 pc user from buying a GeForce4 MX at a time.
March 2, 2002 1:27:26 AM

I'm sure we will be in there to remove any groups hiding there as soon as it comes up on the list of groups to remove =p. Think we're in the phillipines and parts of russia now?

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March 2, 2002 1:41:17 AM

Actually, I beg to differ there.

It seems that Al Qaeda is setting up offices in Bekaa Valley alongside Hamas and Hizbollah

Mark-

When all else fails, throw your computer out the window!!!
March 2, 2002 1:54:52 AM

I personally was very concerned when Sharon won the election. Barak was soo willing to negotiate and make a fair peace for all parties and then the terrorist attacks etc.

Sharon concerned me because of his past record...turning a blind eye to what transpired in Sabra and Shatilla, his overzealousness (though in many instances it ended up being beneficial for Israel). No, he concerned me because he tended to *shoot from the hip* so too speak.

I have been surprised, lately, by his restraint.

Do I think he could do more to promote peace?

Heck yeah!

Do I think he has shown surprising restraint time and again?

Heck yeah!

May there be no doubt...neither side in this issue is 100% right and justified. Neither side is 100% wrong either.

Let's go back a few years and compare perception then and now. Back then Israel was the unwilling occupier of Southern Lebanon in a futile attempt to ostensibly protect their Northern territories from mortars, bombings and general terrorist attacks.

Hizbullah attacked and killed Israelis in Lebanon time and again. Why did Israel get little to no support from the world at the time? Because Israel was occupying Southern Lebanon AND the attacks were 90% against Israeli military targets.

Contrast that with the recent attacks...

These have been 909% against civilian targets while Israel and the Palestinian Authority have been negotiating some kind of peace.

Mark-

When all else fails, throw your computer out the window!!!
March 2, 2002 2:15:13 AM

Pretty well summarized indeed. The reason why Sharon is so succeeding is, like Hitler (no offense anybody) or others, has a charismatic appeal, which many just like him for no apparent benefit.
We'll see how things turn out, hell my family is digusted by how things are over there, we just don't wanna turn on the news about anything in the Middle East anymore...

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For the first time, Hookers are hooked on Phonics!!
March 2, 2002 2:19:20 AM

Sharon is charismatic?

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March 2, 2002 3:28:21 AM

Subject: Re: AMD STEALS TECHNOLOGY!!!!!

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do you realy think that your gouvernement tells you everything...i dont think so !!!

Absolutely not.....but, on average, we're smart enough to take their crap with a grain of salt. That's not a knock on you directly (I apologize, because I know it sounds like that, but it is not intended to). It seems as if a fairly high percentage of Arabians truly think we are hell-bent on wiping them out, and that is simply not true (even if the government was, our people could end it). Furthermore, we allow our press to write whatever the heck they want. I'm sure that they tone it down when they need to, BUT, man if one of those blood-sucking reporters gets a big, juicy bone, there is NO CHANCE they hold back....they make their careers, overnite, like that.

I just think that there is some kind of double-standard. I am sure that most people in the Middle-East would love to live in peace, and that while their may be a great deal of mistrust and dislike for America, they do not hate us to the point of wanting to kill all of us (this is probably the way the French feel about us). That being said, we are taken as weak because we are not merciless and relentless. Going out on a limb, IMHO, THAT IS WHAT SETS US APART AND MAKES US BETTER. However, people of the world should have no illusions; when you punch us enough, we will fight back, with ungodly precision and ferocity. I am still pissed at the most of the rest of the cowardly world for not taking a stronger stance. Go to the four corners of the earth and dredge out these miserable F's. These little rats won't just fade away, and many more innocent people will die because the rest of the world has no nuts. This really isn't the place for a political discussion, so I apologize....I just get a little worked up over this stuff.



-Rick
March 2, 2002 5:07:46 AM

The middle east, why do they hate us and why do we care less?
From my limited "research" the reason is three-fold. First, America has a tendency to stick its nose in everyone's business. Whether or not we are wanted, we show up with guns. I imagine some middle-easterners are concerned about us "showing up", but more importantly worried we will bring American culture with us. They see America as decadent and amoral. In short, they dont want microwaves, fast food and CNN, playboy, high crime rates etc etc.
Second, the CIA hasnt helped on the public relations front. On many occasions the CIA has funded and trained arab militants who were fighting "tyrannical" governments. The CIA operatives involved were very often pulled out when things got too hot. Abandoning the arabs they promised to support. So now you have some really pissed off arabs that are well armed (aka future terrorists).
This pattern started in the 1950's in Central America. Anyway, i digress. The third thing is American support of Israel. If there is any country some Arabs hate more than America... its Israel. We support Israel, so America is hated by default ( or proxy?). Of course Israel was created after WW2 by carving up some arab territory. That would be the equivolent of having an American state taken from us. The residents of the state ( and America) are gonna be pissed off about it.
So the arabs pissed off at america do have some reason to be. But obviously thats not an excuse to start a terrorist war. Besides, like most sides in a fight. Neither side is truly trying to understand one another. Misperception is the real enemy.

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March 2, 2002 5:36:37 AM

Actually i think it's more equivalent to native americans getting some land back, which they have in reservations and are free to do whatever they please on.

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March 2, 2002 5:45:23 AM

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Actually i think it's more equivalent to native americans getting some land back, which they have in reservations and are free to do whatever they please on.


The only claim to that land they have is a biblical one.

Israeli "my god says this is my land"
Palestinian....oh....but my family has lived here for 1000 years.
Israeli "sorry, we will relocate you, or put you in a refugee camp, thanks for the house"
Palestinian " no problem, mind if I blow myself up to kill you?"


the indian analogy is not accurate. The whole situation overthere is [-peep-] up, and it is not the palestnians fault IMO.

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