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March 12, 2002 9:39:10 PM

This is what I predict you'll be able to get for $2000USD by early 2003:

AMD ClawHammer 3400+ or Intel Prescott 3GHz
1GB of PC3200 DDR RAM or PC1066 RDRAM
200GB Hard drive
2X DVD+RW/CD-RW
Enermax 550W PSU
128MB NV30 or R300
SoundBlaster Audigy Platinum Ex
NIC card
Windows XP Pro
17" LCD Flat-panel monitor
Keyboard/Mouse
1.44MB FDD
6.1 surround sound speakers



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March 12, 2002 9:42:05 PM

Please save some money and remove the Floppy drive from the spec. You can always boot using a CD now. No need for floppy anymore. Everything is going legacy free.

KG
March 12, 2002 9:43:26 PM

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1.44MB FDD


Yeah, we will see those drives i think there around 17 or 18 years old.

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March 12, 2002 11:51:49 PM

My prediction

No hammer no presscott
No DDR 400 No Pc1200
Maybe hardrive at 200 GB
No LCD monitor.LCD is not a number or a speed rate.

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March 12, 2002 11:52:04 PM

My prediction

No hammer no presscott
No DDR 400 No Pc1200
Maybe hardrive at 200 GB
No LCD monitor.LCD is not a number or a speed rate.

vive le marketing

cheap, cheap. Think cheap, and you'll always be cheap.AMD version of semi conducteur industrie
March 13, 2002 12:07:14 AM

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No hammer no presscott
No DDR 400 No Pc1200
Maybe hardrive at 200 GB
No LCD monitor.LCD is not a number or a speed rate.

Juin, your prediciton is extremely inaccurate. LCD flat-panels will also probably go down in price within the next year.

DDR400 will probably come. PC1200, maybe not but definitely PC1066.


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March 13, 2002 3:09:14 AM

i thought the first hammer chipsets were gonna be dual channel PC2100/2700?

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March 13, 2002 4:45:54 AM

6.1 Surround sound? What is that?

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March 13, 2002 5:04:42 AM

i wouldnt say 6.1 but maybe 8.1 (all 4 corners, in front of you, your left and right, and right behind you..and of course the sub)

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March 13, 2002 5:09:57 AM

Why is Dolby always in beta? Shouldn’t there be a 6.0 surround sound before a 6.1.

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March 13, 2002 5:36:00 AM

8.1?

how about 8.1.1.b

8 in the corners
1 sub woofer
1 mounted in the roof above your head,
and the b is the one below your butt, mounted in the seat!

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March 13, 2002 6:43:44 AM

It was a lot easier when it was just mono...

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March 13, 2002 12:21:53 PM

DTS ES is 6.1

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March 13, 2002 12:24:02 PM

2x dvd-rw? God! that would take ages to burn a whole dvd! too long!

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March 13, 2002 2:06:41 PM

Actually 2X DVD+RW not DVD-RW. Supposedly, DVD+RW is more compatible with DVD players.

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March 13, 2002 3:07:12 PM

Don't get a DVD+RW or DVD RW because neither of them are very compatible (compatible with roughly 35% of players tested) with regular DVD players, at least according to the review on tech-report.com.
As far as performance goes, a 2x DVD+RW should be able to burn 4GB in under 11 min. Not too shabby.
March 13, 2002 3:16:34 PM

I'm not getting anything. I'm just predicting what you'll be able to get 1 year from now for a reasonable price.

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March 13, 2002 7:48:42 PM

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17" LCD Flat-panel monitor

I think LCDs will remain for specialist office applications only where space is the number 1 issue. Or maybe CRTs will become the specialist monitor for people who need resolution / colour reproduction?
March 14, 2002 1:03:48 AM

Are you a retailer? I actually would tend to agree with you on your comments.

-Raystonn


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March 14, 2002 1:44:24 AM

Ray how can you side with such comments?
I barely understood juin's point in that post anyway, but still that is one pessimistic future appeal.
AMD_Man's got the good looks for future PCs.

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March 14, 2002 1:50:31 AM

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AMD ClawHammer 3400+ or Intel Prescott 3GHz

The Prescott (90nm) won't be available until 2nd Half of 2003.

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March 14, 2002 1:51:33 AM

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i thought the first hammer chipsets were gonna be dual channel PC2100/2700?

I'm not sure, it's a prediction. We already have DDR333, so why can't we have BGA DDR400?

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March 14, 2002 1:55:18 AM

My bad, then it'll probably be a Northwood B.

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March 14, 2002 2:07:17 AM

::slapping AMD Man silly::

Bad AMD Man!! BAD!!!

sorry...sugar high.

Mark-

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March 14, 2002 2:24:12 AM

Because I believe them to be correct? ;) 

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March 14, 2002 4:26:59 AM

same as 5.1 except you get a rear centre.
March 14, 2002 4:32:03 AM

Does it really matter about DVD compatibility anyway? I don't know of many people who will be transferring their home cam corder videos and to dvd. As for burning movies, they can't burn dual layer discs...which is the format most dvd movies are anyway.
August 28, 2002 4:51:14 PM

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AMD ClawHammer 3400+ or Intel Prescott 3GHz
1GB of PC3200 DDR RAM or PC1066 RDRAM
200GB Hard drive
2X DVD+RW/CD-RW
Enermax 550W PSU
128MB NV30 or R300
SoundBlaster Audigy Platinum Ex
NIC card
Windows XP Pro
17" LCD Flat-panel monitor
Keyboard/Mouse
1.44MB FDD
6.1 surround sound speakers

Now that we're getting closer to 2003, anyone care to make a new prediction?

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August 28, 2002 5:05:48 PM

ROFL... just reading thise thread.. man, you can see that times fly's eh? No DDR400.... :tongue:

Ok:

ClawHammer 3400+/P4 3.2GHz/Prescott 3GHz very soon after that
512MB DC DDR333/PC1200 RDRAM
100GB HDD
DVD-RW
128MB R300/NV30
Good sound card
Intgrated NIC
XP PRO
17" LCD
Keyboard/mouse
5.1 surround, like Klipsch

That seems kinda close... I mean I kinda doubt anything significant's gonna really pop up before Q1 2003.

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August 28, 2002 5:26:49 PM

LCD Monitors are still inferior than CRT for gaming. They only run perfectly in their native resolution. Gamer's ideal monitor is a good 19" CRT Monitor. Put an option to choose between 17" LCD and 19" CRT monitor

If Clawhammer is used, we may not need NIC, SoundBlaster Audigy Platinum Ex. It's not hard to beleive that Nvidia will make a nForce chipset for Clawhammer. MCP-D of nForce will eliminate the need of NIC, SoundBlaster Audigy Platinum Ex.
August 28, 2002 5:45:19 PM

Claw hammer will be realse at at lease at 5000+ with the actual PR rating.Around 3000+ with the new that made in consideration that hammer only got 2.7 GB/sec

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August 28, 2002 5:46:44 PM

3.0 Presscott naaa i say 3.6 3.8 maybe 4.0 if need.

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August 28, 2002 10:24:29 PM

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ROFL... just reading thise thread.. man, you can see that times fly's eh? No DDR400....

DDR400 is here. It's not "officially" approved by JEDEC, but it's here.

Also, I'm going to bring this post up again in January 2003 and again in March 2003. I just want to see how accurate my predictions turned out to be.

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August 28, 2002 10:36:21 PM

i dont mind the NIC integrated but definately not the sound card integrated.... i would rather buy one myself. they should have 2 options. with sound card or without

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August 28, 2002 11:08:55 PM

Do you know you just illustrated Dolby Digital EX 7.1 spec?
Dolby Digital ES 6.1 spec is 4 corners with front center and rear center.

I would like Dolby to produce a 8.1 spec.
It would be very logic, 4 corners (front-left, front-right, rear-left, rear-right), 4 centers (front, rear, left, right) and a sub.
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August 29, 2002 2:43:28 AM

Floppy drives are very handy, especially if you have another system around that you have to diagnose. If he skips the floppy I would suggest at least an LS-120 to replace it so he can read and write floppies. Legacy free is not always such a good thing either.

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August 29, 2002 7:48:11 AM

Naaa... isn't the blue-disc DVD's gonna come out? Now those will be worth getting... even if they burn @ 1x, cuz i prefer 27GB of stuff on a disc over 4.7GB of stuff on a 2x disc.

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August 29, 2002 7:51:21 AM

When is Klipsch coming out with 6.1 speakers? And a sound card that supports 6.1 sound? If its anytime within like 9 months, i'll hold off to get one.

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August 29, 2002 9:04:03 AM

Hey don't forget Serial ATA.

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August 29, 2002 2:20:53 PM

LS-120 are around for quite long time. But they did not replce 1.44 MB floppy drives although they are backward compatible. Do you know why LS-120 drives are so unpopular? I have never seen anybody using a LS-120 drive.
August 29, 2002 2:28:58 PM

I think the LS-120 was a good idea but it depended on widespread take-up of the technology. They are backward compatible, but an LS-120 disk would work in a floppy drive, so it lacked 'either-way' compatability. Portable solutions like the Zip Drive made a lot more sense.

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August 29, 2002 2:46:26 PM

Make that a 256mb video card, and Audigy sound card and a 160GB hard drive and that'll be close.

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August 29, 2002 4:24:48 PM

Well, the other guy said the LS-120 lacked compatability in both directions then said the Zip made more sense, because it lacked compatability in either direction? No, that's not it. Fact is, ZIP was marketed better than LS120, that's the ONLY reason why LS120 never became popular. People got the ZIP and then said "Why do I need an LS120 when I already have a ZIP and a Floppy" instead of thinking ahead of time and saying "why do I want both a zip and a floppy when the LS120 serves the purpose of both". It's all about marketing and always has been. We don't get the best stuff, we get the best promoted stuff.

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August 29, 2002 4:28:25 PM

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We don't get the best stuff, we get the best promoted stuff.

Yeah, I know but a Zip disk is more secure. It supports hardware level password protection.

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August 29, 2002 7:02:41 PM

Which one is cheaper, Zip drive or LS-120 drive? How much LS-120 media costs compared to Zip media?
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August 29, 2002 8:12:19 PM

Prices are about the same.

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August 29, 2002 8:22:56 PM

One thing that I'm not clear on is if this is meant to be retail (like through Dell) or home-built.

Retail:
AMD Barton 3000+ / Intel Northwood 3.0GHz
1GB of DDR333 / 512MB PC1066
100GB 5200RPM IDE
crappy DVD burner
64MB GF4 or R9000
Onboard sound 5.1 and 10/100 network
Windows XP Pro
17" CRT monitor
Keyboard/Mouse
1.44MB FDD
crappy supposed 5.1 sound speakers

Home built:
AMD Barton OC to 3700+ / AMD CHammer 3400+ / Intel Northwood OC to ~4GHz
2GB of DDRII400 / 1GB PC1066 (or 512MB PC1200)
160GB 7200RPM serial ATA
4x/2x DVD-r-rw Burner
128MB DDRII R300
Santa Cruz 5.1
10/100 NEC
Windows XP Pro
17" LCD or 19" CRT
Keyboard/Mouse
1.44MB FDD
some sort of nice 5.1 sound speakers

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August 29, 2002 9:07:37 PM

It's great to see that 5 months later my prediciton is still reasonably accurate.

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August 30, 2002 4:01:36 AM

A sound card supporting 7.1 is out.
It's the Hercules Fortissimo III 7.1
It's a consumer card and it doesn't cost alot.
August 30, 2002 4:25:40 AM

hmmm... i've never heard of it before. Is it good for music and games? cuz i love 2 play guitar by ear, and i like 2 play games. I know that this depends on speakers, but usualy sound card also has some tell in this. btw, is there any 7.1 speakers out there?

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