Thoroughbred to Ship this Month ?

"0.13µ Thoroughbred to Ship this Month (AMD)
By Brian Neal
Wednesday, March 13, 2002 4:03 AM EST
According to this press release, AMD intends to begin shipping its 0.13µ Athlon XP processors, codenamed Thoroughbred, to customers later this month. As reported in the past, the 0.13µ Thoroughbred processor core measures 80mm², significantly smaller than the current 0.18µ Palomino core at 129mm². As indicated in the quote below, AMD intends to have fully transitioned all Athlon production to its 0.13µ process by the end of this year, which is also when it expects to begin shipping processors based on the Hammer architecture.


"AMD's leadership in manufacturing technology and outstanding design capabilities helps ensure that this small die will give us even more advantage in the future," said Bill Siegle, senior vice president and chief scientist, Technology Operations, AMD. "Our outstanding Fab 30 team in Dresden is already approaching mature yields for the 80mm2 `Thoroughbred' die."
On .13 micron technology, the "Thoroughbred" core of the AMD Athlon XP processor is approximately 38 percent smaller than the current AMD Athlon XP processor on .18 process technology.

By the end of 2002, AMD expects that all of the AMD Athlon processor family will be produced on .13 micron technology. AMD also expects to begin shipping its next-generation processor codenamed "Hammer," which uses a silicon-on-insulator (SOI) version of the .13 micron technology, at the end of the year.

There have been several rumors surrounding Thoroughbred regarding various changes and improvements to be made to the Athlon core for its 0.13µ transition. One such rumored improvement has been an L2 cache size increase to 512 KB. However, we can confirm that there have been no such changes to the Thoroughbred core and the L2 cache size remains at 256 KB. "

http://www.aceshardware.com/#55000463

gotta love rumors!


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mine's an article post not a opinion post ... ;P

besides both post contradict each other... hence the comment "gotta love rumors"

;p

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Isn't this how Burger got his post count up in the first place?

Explains the Bandwidth Hog title he bears today.

wish it were true! only if it had a 512k cache! or maybe AMD will now follow Intel's footsteps and make a B version of the Tbred - one with 512k L2!

<font color=red>Nothing is fool-proof. Fools are Ingenious!</font color=red>

AMD work on 200mm wafer.

Anandtech have show some bench with 166FSB on athlon it give 3% faster LOL if the extra cache dont help much.
K7 is old architecture why bothers upgrade it there K8 comming.Concentrate R&D on the same core.

cheap, cheap. Think cheap, and you'll always be cheap.AMD version of semi conducteur industrie

Perhaps it has something to do with whether you lower the multiplier to keep the same clockspeed, or simply overclock the FSB.

-Raystonn


= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my employer. =

Athlon is not going to be getting any major improvements from here out. by the middle of next year I think AMD will have Hammer chips to fill all except the budget markets and Athlon will move there. Athlon is more than sufficient for a budget PC configuration and will be for some time to come...with no improvements other than speed bumps.

The only thing we might see for Athlon between now and eoy is a fsb bump to 166, but that's not written in stone.

Mark-

When all else fails, throw your computer out the window!!!

In general, the higher the clockspeed, the better it can handle the data. If you overclock your processor by increasing the FSB by 50%, and you have the memory bandwidth to provide 50% more bandwidth to the processor, you will see a 50% improvement in processor performance. If you increase the processor clockspeed by simply increasing the multiplier, you begin to starve it for data further and further. When this is done, you do not see a linear increase in performance. Thus, if you want a 10% performance increase from a 10% clockspeed boost, you will need to attain the clockspeed boost entirely by increasing the processor's FSB. (You will also need to ensure your memory continues to provide enough bandwidth for the processor.)

-Raystonn


= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my employer. =

The emails and PMs I answer that do not contribute to my post count make up for pointless posts very nicely. As for my post count, let's just say I'm approching 5 digits.

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Don't step in the sarcasm!

Juin, you're talking about the KT333 not a 333MHz FSB. With a 333MHz FSB and DDR333, you get ~10% boost in performance, if not more. Just look at some of the people with the wildly overclocked IWill XP333s.

AMD technology + Intel technology = Intel/AMD Pentathlon IV; the <b>ULTIMATE</b> PC processor

What are good Review Sites...besides Tom's,

Once you go AMD, You never Go back!!

Fat, since you seem to have excellent contacts with the admins here and can have them banned, why haven't you banned AMD_Meltdown already?!
For crying out loud he really is starting to get annoying!

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For the first time, Hookers are hooked on Phonics!!

I do? And Fredi is the only admin/mod that I know of.

Assuming you don't mean the admins...no, I can't have anyone banned.

Because I can't, and with no official forum rules, he's not technically doing anything wrong.


sk8er, what did you not understand?

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Don't step in the sarcasm!

Who is this MeltDown Character.. Send a Private Message to Fredi and tell him he is causeing problems in our Community

later, Rob

Once you go AMD, You never Go back!!

Until there are official forum rules there is really no way to break them. If someone could point out a rule and point out a post that breaks this rule, then you have a real excuse for possibly banning someone. Until then, it would be wrong to do it.

-Raystonn


= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my employer. =

The Admin decides whatever he wants of the forum.
Granted there is the rule of freedom of speech, but I don't think any admin wants that to roam in his forum to allow anyone to say anything. In the trolls' cases, they are not respecting people, and also post false info to innocent askers. I find this immoral, and if you find that they should still get justice, I have no choice but to put you on the trolls' side, Ray. I've just about had it with the immatureness of Meltdown or the occasional ranting by Fugger, and I will continue until I see that one of them is banned.

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For the first time, Hookers are hooked on Phonics!!

Someone like Meltdown attacking AMD_Man's opinion on his silent system is not an option of freedom and is in no way something to be respected. You should take note that we respect each other's opinions here as long as they don't involve crude, insulting or annoying subjects, as they completly derail off the opinion factor.
I do not respect Meltdown and neither does anybody here with a sane approach, so I suggest YOU try to tell me what else to do against him.

EDIT: I did not say you are a troll, Ray. I said you are siding with them if you believe they have the right to stay even though they are "trolling" and annoying the community.
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Indeed. Would that the majority of people would only follow this tenet of netiquette.

sigh.

Mark-

When all else fails, throw your computer out the window!!!

It is unclear, but recent tests of DDR 400 showed a performance boost of almost 25%, maybe that is also in IPC.
However the memory benches in Sandra, showed the Athlon equaling the P4's bandwidth with RDRAM, thus it can now compete in memory!
It isn't 166FSB+DDR333 that will boost an Athlon, it's DDR400 that will.

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For the first time, Hookers are hooked on Phonics!!

Actually, I sometimes get a kick out of his posts and folks responses to them. I do wonder, though, why he hasn't seemed to figure out how ludicrous the vast majority of people think he is. That certainly lessens any possible validity any of his comments or posts might have.

Mark-

When all else fails, throw your computer out the window!!!