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October 18, 2004 2:44:21 PM

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Hi,

Sorry this a bit off the topic here. I was wondering what programs can
format CD-RW so that it can be read by Windows as a regular CD disk.

I have been using Roxio's Easy CD 5 that came with Dell, but once I
format a CD-RW and wrote files on to it, it couldn't be read by other
Windows machines unless Easy CD was loaded on the machien first.

Thanks in advance for your help!

Terry

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Anonymous
October 18, 2004 3:56:41 PM

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There are several different ways of writing to a CD-RW. The first way
is to use it as a normal CD-R with the ability to ertase the whole
disk. This requires no formatting and can be read by any computer. The
second method is packet writing which does require formatting and can
be read by any machine having packet writing software (such as direct
CD which comes with Easy CD Creator) or a UDSF reader which can be
downloaded (free) from Roxio's site. With packet writing, the CD-RW
behaves like a large floppy (i.e. you can delet individual files).

I hope this clarifies the issues for you.

Jerry


On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:44:21 -0500, Terry
<gobeyondgobeyond@Rem0ve.Yahoo.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Sorry this a bit off the topic here. I was wondering what programs can
>format CD-RW so that it can be read by Windows as a regular CD disk.
>
>I have been using Roxio's Easy CD 5 that came with Dell, but once I
>format a CD-RW and wrote files on to it, it couldn't be read by other
>Windows machines unless Easy CD was loaded on the machien first.
>
>Thanks in advance for your help!
>
>Terry
Anonymous
October 18, 2004 4:15:50 PM

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In addition to other responses you will (hopefully) receive, you should know
that the EZCD v.5 that shipped with Dell PCs needed to be updated (for free)
to version 5.1. That version may still be available on Roxio's web site,
although EZCD is currently at version 7 (and known as Easy Media Creator.)
Without the update, you will encounter problems with EZCD.

You should consider upgrading to Easy Media Creator (i.e., version 7). A lot
has changed in the CD recording world since version 5.
--
Ted Zieglar


"Terry" <gobeyondgobeyond@Rem0ve.Yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bdda0cc3bfb967e9896bc@news.tc.umn.edu...
> Hi,
>
> Sorry this a bit off the topic here. I was wondering what programs can
> format CD-RW so that it can be read by Windows as a regular CD disk.
>
> I have been using Roxio's Easy CD 5 that came with Dell, but once I
> format a CD-RW and wrote files on to it, it couldn't be read by other
> Windows machines unless Easy CD was loaded on the machien first.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help!
>
> Terry
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October 18, 2004 5:07:55 PM

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In article <lop7n0lrds84c295edlbto7hecbl6jt2th@4ax.com>,
jerrymkatz@NOSPAM says...
> There are several different ways of writing to a CD-RW. The first way
> is to use it as a normal CD-R with the ability to ertase the whole
> disk. This requires no formatting and can be read by any computer. The
> second method is packet writing which does require formatting and can
> be read by any machine having packet writing software (such as direct
> CD which comes with Easy CD Creator) or a UDSF reader which can be
> downloaded (free) from Roxio's site. With packet writing, the CD-RW
> behaves like a large floppy (i.e. you can delet individual files).
>
> I hope this clarifies the issues for you.
>
> Jerry

Jerry,

Well explained! Many thanks!

Terry
Anonymous
October 18, 2004 6:58:31 PM

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you could try this small and free program

http://www.burnatonce.com/


"Terry" <gobeyondgobeyond@Rem0ve.Yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bdda0cc3bfb967e9896bc@news.tc.umn.edu...
> Hi,
>
> Sorry this a bit off the topic here. I was wondering what programs can
> format CD-RW so that it can be read by Windows as a regular CD disk.
>
> I have been using Roxio's Easy CD 5 that came with Dell, but once I
> format a CD-RW and wrote files on to it, it couldn't be read by other
> Windows machines unless Easy CD was loaded on the machien first.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help!
>
> Terry
Anonymous
October 18, 2004 11:15:35 PM

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Jerry,
Thanks, very informative post.
Paul

"Jerome M. Katz" <jerrymkatz@NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:lop7n0lrds84c295edlbto7hecbl6jt2th@4ax.com...
> There are several different ways of writing to a CD-RW. The first way
> is to use it as a normal CD-R with the ability to ertase the whole
> disk. This requires no formatting and can be read by any computer. The
> second method is packet writing which does require formatting and can
> be read by any machine having packet writing software (such as direct
> CD which comes with Easy CD Creator) or a UDSF reader which can be
> downloaded (free) from Roxio's site. With packet writing, the CD-RW
> behaves like a large floppy (i.e. you can delet individual files).
>
> I hope this clarifies the issues for you.
>
> Jerry
>
>
> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:44:21 -0500, Terry
> <gobeyondgobeyond@Rem0ve.Yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Sorry this a bit off the topic here. I was wondering what programs can
>>format CD-RW so that it can be read by Windows as a regular CD disk.
>>
>>I have been using Roxio's Easy CD 5 that came with Dell, but once I
>>format a CD-RW and wrote files on to it, it couldn't be read by other
>>Windows machines unless Easy CD was loaded on the machien first.
>>
>>Thanks in advance for your help!
>>
>>Terry
>
Anonymous
October 19, 2004 3:07:20 PM

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In article <lop7n0lrds84c295edlbto7hecbl6jt2th@4ax.com>,
Jerome M. Katz <jerrymkatz@NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>There are several different ways of writing to a CD-RW. The first way
>is to use it as a normal CD-R with the ability to ertase the whole
>disk. This requires no formatting and can be read by any computer. The
>second method is packet writing which does require formatting and can
>be read by any machine having packet writing software (such as direct
>CD which comes with Easy CD Creator) or a UDSF reader which can be
>downloaded (free) from Roxio's site. With packet writing, the CD-RW
>behaves like a large floppy (i.e. you can delet individual files).
>
>I hope this clarifies the issues for you.

G'day Jerry,
I admit to being still confused by what I've read in various places
and what I've experienced!

Using Adaptec DirectCD 3.01d_D5 (i.e. a Dell-installed OEM version)
that came with my Dell 4100 under Windows ME:

CD-RW -- The default format process takes around 20 minutes and
results in a disk that can be read reliably on a CD-ROM drive under
Windows 95 and Windows 2000 on old an Dell GXa 266, without any
additional software AFAIK.

CD-R -- The default format process takes barely a minute and creates
blanks that have much more useable space than the above-mentioned
CD-RWs. They can be used like a CD-RW for drag and drop under
Windows, and for the usual file operations from a DOS window (as you
can do with a floppy). But they CANNOT be read by the CD-ROM drive
referred to above -- though I guess it may be possible to do that by
installing additional software on the GXa, as you mentioned.

Using the associated Adaptec ECDC 4.02d (Dell OEM?) to write
"standard" CD-Rs results in CDs that I've been able to read on any
machine, as you'd expect!

I've not tried using a CD-RW as a "standard" CD-R (i.e. with ECDC),
though I gather it is possible to do this. (But perhaps it wouldn't
be readable on CD-ROM drives anyway, due to physical characteristics?)

Cheers, Phred.

--
ppnerkDELETE@THISyahoo.com.INVALID
Anonymous
October 19, 2004 7:25:53 PM

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Phred,

My comments are below in black.

Jerry



On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:07:20 GMT, ppnerkDELETETHIS@yahoo.com (Phred)
wrote:

>In article <lop7n0lrds84c295edlbto7hecbl6jt2th@4ax.com>,
>Jerome M. Katz <jerrymkatz@NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>There are several different ways of writing to a CD-RW. The first way
>>is to use it as a normal CD-R with the ability to ertase the whole
>>disk. This requires no formatting and can be read by any computer. The
>>second method is packet writing which does require formatting and can
>>be read by any machine having packet writing software (such as direct
>>CD which comes with Easy CD Creator) or a UDSF reader which can be
>>downloaded (free) from Roxio's site. With packet writing, the CD-RW
>>behaves like a large floppy (i.e. you can delet individual files).
>>
>>I hope this clarifies the issues for you.
>
>G'day Jerry,
>I admit to being still confused by what I've read in various places
>and what I've experienced!
>
>Using Adaptec DirectCD 3.01d_D5 (i.e. a Dell-installed OEM version)
>that came with my Dell 4100 under Windows ME:
>
>CD-RW -- The default format process takes around 20 minutes and
>results in a disk that can be read reliably on a CD-ROM drive under
>Windows 95 and Windows 2000 on old an Dell GXa 266, without any
>additional software AFAIK.
Some versions of
Direct CD put the UDF reader on the CD-RW as part of the formatting so
the disk can be read under any version of Windows compatible with that
version of the UDF reader.

>
>CD-R -- The default format process takes barely a minute and creates
>blanks that have much more useable space than the above-mentioned
>CD-RWs. They can be used like a CD-RW for drag and drop under
>Windows, and for the usual file operations from a DOS window (as you
>can do with a floppy). But they CANNOT be read by the CD-ROM drive
>referred to above -- though I guess it may be possible to do that by
>installing additional software on the GXa, as you mentioned.

The process you are using is totally different. You are
not using the CD-R as a large floppy and you cannot erase and rewqrite
on the disk. There is essentially no formatting for this type of
writing. It should be redabale by all CD-ROM and CD-RW drives (except
possibly very old drives)

>
>Using the associated Adaptec ECDC 4.02d (Dell OEM?) to write
>"standard" CD-Rs results in CDs that I've been able to read on any
>machine, as you'd expect!
>
>I've not tried using a CD-RW as a "standard" CD-R (i.e. with ECDC),
>though I gather it is possible to do this. (But perhaps it wouldn't
>be readable on CD-ROM drives anyway, due to physical characteristics?)

It should be readable on any relatively recent (less than about 5
years old CD-ROM drive) and you can erase the whole disk but not
delete individual files
>
>Cheers, Phred.
Anonymous
October 20, 2004 1:51:12 PM

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.. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3F2D8973.EBCD8386@...

( No Pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the above is a LIBEL )
( -- despite Mikey claimed to have proof of misquotes !! )

Phred (Pipsqueak) moaned:
>
> <snip moaning>

Stop that moaning, sicko!

Did you get ecstatic by this prejudice, sicko?

--------------------------------
Why the F%^k use CDR's with UDF?
--------------------------------

===================
From: (GMAN) <=== Ex cRoxio/Acraptec Beta Tester
Date: 2/21/02

> > Windows 2000 Cannot Read CD-R Discs Created with DirectCD
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=268094
>
> Well then it doesn't conform to UDF standards.

Why the F%^k are you using CDR's with UDF in the first place?

UDF and packet writing software were meant for CDRW to begin with.
===================
Anonymous
October 20, 2004 2:22:05 PM

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In article <b1qan0hpqrg8e98qmejj3elcgcr71q5fir@4ax.com>, Jerome M. Katz <jerrymkatz@NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Phred,
> My comments are below in black.
> Jerry
Thanks mate. See another comment from me below.

>On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:07:20 GMT, ppnerkDELETETHIS@yahoo.com (Phred)
>wrote:
>>In article <lop7n0lrds84c295edlbto7hecbl6jt2th@4ax.com>,
>>Jerome M. Katz <jerrymkatz@NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>There are several different ways of writing to a CD-RW. The first way
>>>is to use it as a normal CD-R with the ability to ertase the whole
>>>disk. This requires no formatting and can be read by any computer. The
>>>second method is packet writing which does require formatting and can
>>>be read by any machine having packet writing software (such as direct
>>>CD which comes with Easy CD Creator) or a UDSF reader which can be
>>>downloaded (free) from Roxio's site. With packet writing, the CD-RW
>>>behaves like a large floppy (i.e. you can delet individual files).
>>>
>>>I hope this clarifies the issues for you.
>>
>>G'day Jerry,
>>I admit to being still confused by what I've read in various places
>>and what I've experienced!
>>
>>Using Adaptec DirectCD 3.01d_D5 (i.e. a Dell-installed OEM version)
>>that came with my Dell 4100 under Windows ME:
>>
>>CD-RW -- The default format process takes around 20 minutes and
>>results in a disk that can be read reliably on a CD-ROM drive under
>>Windows 95 and Windows 2000 on old an Dell GXa 266, without any
>>additional software AFAIK.
> Some versions of
>Direct CD put the UDF reader on the CD-RW as part of the formatting so
>the disk can be read under any version of Windows compatible with that
>version of the UDF reader.
>
>>
>>CD-R -- The default format process takes barely a minute and creates
>>blanks that have much more useable space than the above-mentioned
>>CD-RWs. They can be used like a CD-RW for drag and drop under
>>Windows, and for the usual file operations from a DOS window (as you
>>can do with a floppy). But they CANNOT be read by the CD-ROM drive
>>referred to above -- though I guess it may be possible to do that by
>>installing additional software on the GXa, as you mentioned.
>
> The process you are using is totally different. You are
>not using the CD-R as a large floppy and you cannot erase and rewqrite

Well, it's not physically a floppy, and I know you can't *physically*
erase files from a CD-R formatted like that, but it's *logically* very
similar to using a floppy. For example, in a DOS window you can
create and "delete" files on the CD-R; create and "delete" folders;
and "overwrite" existing files with a new version -- all until you
eventually run out of space because you're basically just shifting
"pointers" around, not physically changing what's been written on the
disk. (I've no doubt there's likely to be software around that can
"recover" the previous versions of things like files by doing some
sort of appropriate scan of the surface of the CD.)

>on the disk. There is essentially no formatting for this type of
>writing. It should be redabale by all CD-ROM and CD-RW drives (except
>possibly very old drives)

I've only been able to read them on machines with CD-RW drives and
with DirectCD as the default install. Not at all on CD-ROM drives
(with the proviso it may be possible with specific software built for
the purpose).

>>Using the associated Adaptec ECDC 4.02d (Dell OEM?) to write
>>"standard" CD-Rs results in CDs that I've been able to read on any
>>machine, as you'd expect!
>>
>>I've not tried using a CD-RW as a "standard" CD-R (i.e. with ECDC),
>>though I gather it is possible to do this. (But perhaps it wouldn't
>>be readable on CD-ROM drives anyway, due to physical characteristics?)
>
> It should be readable on any relatively recent (less than about 5
>years old CD-ROM drive) and you can erase the whole disk but not
>delete individual files

Cheers, Phred.

--
ppnerkDELETE@THISyahoo.com.INVALID
Anonymous
October 20, 2004 5:17:38 PM

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Some decisions are so easy: PLONK.
--
Ted Zieglar


"smh" <smhong@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:41769780.3D42D251@mindspring.com...
> . --------------------------------------
> Mike Richter, were you born with
> "Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
> --------------------------------------
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3F2D8973.EBCD8386@...
>
> ( No Pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the above is a LIBEL )
> ( -- despite Mikey claimed to have proof of misquotes !! )
>
> Phred (Pipsqueak) moaned:
> >
> > <snip moaning>
>
> Stop that moaning, sicko!
>
> Did you get ecstatic by this prejudice, sicko?
>
> --------------------------------
> Why the F%^k use CDR's with UDF?
> --------------------------------
>
> ===================
> From: (GMAN) <=== Ex cRoxio/Acraptec Beta Tester
> Date: 2/21/02
>
> > > Windows 2000 Cannot Read CD-R Discs Created with DirectCD
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=268094
> >
> > Well then it doesn't conform to UDF standards.
>
> Why the F%^k are you using CDR's with UDF in the first place?
>
> UDF and packet writing software were meant for CDRW to begin with.
> ===================
Anonymous
October 20, 2004 5:17:39 PM

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.. --------------------------------------
Mike Richter, were you born with
"Scam Artist" emblazoned on your face?
--------------------------------------

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3F2D8973.EBCD8386@...
(Messages 10, 12 -- 34, 54 -- 69)

( No Pipsqueaks have been able to prove ANY of the above is a LIBEL )
( -- despite Mikey claimed to have proof of misquotes !! )


Ted Zieglar (Pipsqueak) squeaked:
>
> Some decisions are so easy: PLONK.

The only plonk you know is the sound you hear when a pile of coasters
pops out of your ass.

> >
> > Phred (Pipsqueak) moaned:
> > >
> > > <snip moaning>
> >
> > Stop that moaning, sicko!
> >
> > Did you get ecstatic by this prejudice, sicko?
> >
> > --------------------------------
> > Why the F%^k use CDR's with UDF?
> > --------------------------------
> >
> > ===================
> > From: (GMAN) <=== Ex cRoxio/Acraptec Beta Tester
> > Date: 2/21/02
> >
> > > > Windows 2000 Cannot Read CD-R Discs Created with DirectCD
> > > > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=268094
> > >
> > > Well then it doesn't conform to UDF standards.
> >
> > Why the F%^k are you using CDR's with UDF in the first place?
> >
> > UDF and packet writing software were meant for CDRW to begin with.
> > ===================
!