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lhgpoobaa   03-31-2002 at 03:21:19 AM

very short i thought...
and no comparisons to other well know case manufacturers like lian li, enermax or antec.

very much a 'filler' article i though.

whats your impression?

P.S. dont bug me about the spelling or punctuation of "aluminium" :smile:

Anything i think of as 'Decent' is unlikely to ever become 'OEM'

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Raystonn   03-31-2002 at 03:37:12 AM
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I prefer my Vapochill's case... :cool:

Seriously though, there are quite a bit of filler articles nowadays. They are more interested in attracting readers to click on banners recently. Sometimes I wonder if they put out articles that have highly contentious conclusions simply to attract hits.

-Raystonn


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Schmide   03-31-2002 at 03:51:56 AM
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I hate my Vapochill case it is the most non-ergonomic thing I’ve ever had the pleasure of putting together. Did they really need to put such a large front plate on it?

I digress…

I liked the metallurgy information in the article and the way it went into the history of case development.

All errors are undocumented features waiting to be discovered.

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Raystonn   03-31-2002 at 04:04:53 AM
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I do not run with the front bezel on, unless I invite some friends over. It is just for looks. I usually run mine with the whole case cover off. It is much easier than creating a place to mount my potentiometer for the volt mod. In fact I have the cover off my power supply as well. I manually adjust the 12-volt rail on it while the system is on to keep it as close to 12 volts as possible.

-Raystonn


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Schmide   03-31-2002 at 04:10:40 AM
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You adjust the 12v rail for the compressor?

All errors are undocumented features waiting to be discovered.

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Raystonn   03-31-2002 at 04:17:43 AM
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Keeping the 12V rail as close to 12V as possible allows for higher overclocks. Usually the power supply starts to dip down to around 11.3V, at which your system might fail. Since the Vapochill and the rest of the system shares the same power supply, the 400 watt Antec PP-412X does not provide enough power on the 12V line as you push up the clockspeed and increase the heat. I am thinking about grabbing a <A HREF="http://www.pcpowerandcooling.com/products/power_supplies/highperformance/turbocools/index_tc_600atx.htm" target="_new">PC Power & Cooling Turbo-Cool 600 ATX12V</A>. It would provide 25A (35A peak) on the 12V line, instead of my Antec's 18A.

-Raystonn


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lhgpoobaa   03-31-2002 at 06:17:12 AM
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mmmm thats a serious case mod :smile:

good point about the 'sensationalism' thou...

i just wish i could afford an alumimium case at the moment LOL


Anything i think of as 'Decent' is unlikely to ever become 'OEM'

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peteb   03-31-2002 at 09:07:23 AM
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Agreed, if they really want to review aluminium cases then I'd have thought a coolermaster or lian-li were obvious ones.

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Quetzacoatl   03-31-2002 at 06:19:04 PM
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Just out of curiosity, are you British or English?

I do know for a fact (from several British TV shows) that they pronounce aluminium Al-uh-min-ee-um versus the U.S. aluminum Uh-lume-uh-num

About the case, waste of money if it is selling for over $100 U.S.

"When there's a will, there's a way."

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eden   03-31-2002 at 08:17:19 PM
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He's Australian.
French say it like them too.

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For the first time, Hookers are hooked on Phonics!!

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lhgpoobaa   04-01-2002 at 02:28:28 AM
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hehe

im actually australian, but us ozzies have adopted british english, things like
aluminium, colour etc

Anything i think of as 'Decent' is unlikely to ever become 'OEM'

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upec   04-01-2002 at 04:15:34 AM
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I also think they should review case from Cooler Master and Lian-Li since they are the most popular brand.

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peteb   04-01-2002 at 04:34:55 AM
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how can you say it is a waste of money at over $100?

It might be more than you have budget for, or it may not fulfil your requirements, but I have two cases that both retail for considerably more than $100, and do their job very well indeed. I think back to, and look at many cases on the market now and consider them to be cheap POS.

It all depends where you are coming from and what you are doing. To generalise that a > $100 case is a waste is not constructive.

To my mind, a good case lasts you many, many pc builds. Unless form factors change greatly, it will always be a good case.

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Quetzacoatl   04-01-2002 at 04:51:56 AM
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Enlight ATX Form Factor case
4 5.5" slots
2 3.5" slots

came with an Antec 300Watt PSU

$69

great case, good power supply, not too expensive. I am just saying I don't think people would want to spend over $100 for a case that only has several "innovations." Now i'm not saying it's a piece of crap, but I think that maybe $85-100 would be a little more reasonable.

"When there's a will, there's a way."

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sir_jakontil   04-01-2002 at 05:38:33 AM
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alll i like is Lian Li casing....i got PC65 with the modded window on left side....=)
very easy to work with though it costs a lot...=(
anyway u seem to buy only one case that lasts for a long time.....

AMD is good, but Intel is more fun

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peteb   04-01-2002 at 06:37:04 AM
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Great - it's cheap. Big deal. I want cases that are easy to get in and out of, easy to work in, won't cut my fingers and holds a lot more gear.

Ars has this to say on a particular Enlight case

Quote :

It's noisy, it's jagged, it's a massive pain in the ass to get into, but it is really cheap, and it will hold all your stuff. That's the Cliff's Notes version; now let's get down to some case reviewing action. In case you're new to Ars, or have a short memory ;), our case reviews are done in light of our own case purchasing recommendations. It might help to know what it is we're looking for in a case, and what things we just expect to be there if you don't already know. On with the show!

It is an adequate case. It holds your components, blows air over them, and gives them life. Although it is difficult to get into, once you are in, it's really easy to add or remove drives from, in much the same way the Compudex case I reviewed earlier this week wasn't. If you've got as many drives as I do (or, if you're planning on amassing some phat storage capabilities), you'll care about this kinda stuff.



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Quetzacoatl   04-01-2002 at 07:21:51 AM
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Now hold on a second. $69 isn't exactly cheap, it is simply "frugal minded". I'm running 3 drives, one old 32x8x4 Cd-rw, one 52x Cd-rom, and one 8x DVD drive (PCI hardware). 1 floppy if that matters too. Case is no noiser than the fan of the CPU. I have yet to find any real sharp edges. Only work to open it is two phillips head screws. I know you can get an Enlight case with thumb screws if you are too lazy for a screwdriver. Don't forget, most cases are no bigger than what is included here, 4 large slots, and 2 small ones. So don't go trolling bout my case, it is fine for "my cause" if you wish to word it that way.

"When there's a will, there's a way."

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peteb   04-01-2002 at 07:51:01 AM
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$69, including power supply is cheap. Arguing otherwise gonna be tough.

The quote is from Ars, not me. Trolling I am not.

Your case is fine for what you use it for, I'm sure. My thoughts are though that a case and PSU that cost leass than a budget CPU or a stick of memory are heavily on the economy side of the fence. They certainly have a role, and I'm truly happy that you are happy.

My issue is that I see so many people with expensive motherboards, memory, cpus and drives, and then try and throw it all in a 'cheap' case with generic PSU, then cry when the system is not stable generally have only one place to look.

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Quetzacoatl   04-01-2002 at 08:26:15 AM
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Well, as much as I hate ignorance, i'm going to have to state here that people are generally very ignorant about buying things, and they WILL cut corners, especially in costs. If they do get some crappy case/PSU, tough. It's their loss. However, if I had a friend or family member who planned a computer investment, I would advise them to get a decent case and PSU. I don't know the "average" or "minimum", so let me ask you. I'm assuming at least an ATX size with the basic specs I posted. Also, a 300W or higher PSU. Correct? That is for the basic user i'm assuming. For overclockers (or others), 400watt PSU and/or larger case? Indulge me please :)

I don't desire to argue with you, alright? I am just satisfied with my computer right now. No need for anything fancy.

"When there's a will, there's a way."

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peteb   04-01-2002 at 08:57:41 AM
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Case recommendations:

You usually require at least 2 x 5.25" bays, 1 3.5" external and 2 3.5" internal bays.

Many systems have a requirement for at least 2 optical drives, 2 HDDs and a floppy disk. A case like that, with a couple of cooling fans is likely to need a 300W or 350W supply.

As you head up from there, 3 optical drives, lots of USB/1394, multiple HDDs, top end P4/AMD processors then your case needs to be bigger, you need more cooling and you need more power. Mid range on a system like that is going to be 3-4 5.25" bays, 1-2 external 3.5" bays, and 3-4 internal bays with a 400W PSU.

Noorth of that you have high end cases and specialties. My mid systems fall in the last category (Coolermaster ATC-201, Lian Li PC32), I then have a high end (Lian-Li PC76 - 6 x 5.25", 2 ext. 3.5", 12 int. 3.5". That has DVD-R, CD-RW, DVD-ROM, 5 x SCSI 10k, 4 x 7200 IDE, 300W and 550W co-PSU mod.).

I'm also currently eying the ATC-600 for fitting in my AV rack in the living room.

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