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Anonymous
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October 21, 2004 1:15:27 AM

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I "inherited" a Dell Dimension 2350 with Windows XP on it. The friend who
gave it to me had a temper tantrum one day when he could not get the
computer to do something he wanted. As a result, he ripped all the wires
off of the back of it. The only damage seems to be the port that the
monitor is to be plugged into....it's ruined. I installed a new Conqueror
FX 5200 PCI video card but nothing shows up on the monitor. Which leads me
to believe that in order to install a new video card, I must first disable
the on board card built into the mother board.....no way to do that since I
cannot plug the monitor into the original video card. Correct?

If anybody has a suggestion, I would appreciate hearing from you.....Thanks!

More about : dell dimension 2350

Anonymous
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October 21, 2004 1:15:28 AM

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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:15:27 GMT, RLF wrote in
<news:p zAdd.2471$%h1.72@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>:

> I "inherited" a Dell Dimension 2350 with Windows XP on it. The friend who
> gave it to me had a temper tantrum one day when he could not get the
> computer to do something he wanted. As a result, he ripped all the wires
> off of the back of it. The only damage seems to be the port that the
> monitor is to be plugged into....it's ruined. I installed a new Conqueror
> FX 5200 PCI video card but nothing shows up on the monitor. Which leads me
> to believe that in order to install a new video card, I must first disable
> the on board card built into the mother board.....no way to do that since I
> cannot plug the monitor into the original video card. Correct?
>
> If anybody has a suggestion, I would appreciate hearing from you.....Thanks!

Find someone who has the same type of machine and have them copy down the
keys they hit to disable to on-board video. Then, you can do it blind and
hopefully get it right.

Dave
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Anonymous
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October 21, 2004 1:46:52 AM

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OK....can anybody help me with this suggestion?

Thanks, David!



"David Casey" <sgtcasey@IH8SPAMcableone.net> wrote in message
news:1e9ih86ycedqw.dlg@sgtcaseycableone.net...
> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:15:27 GMT, RLF wrote in
> <news:p zAdd.2471$%h1.72@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>:
>
> > I "inherited" a Dell Dimension 2350 with Windows XP on it. The friend
who
> > gave it to me had a temper tantrum one day when he could not get the
> > computer to do something he wanted. As a result, he ripped all the
wires
> > off of the back of it. The only damage seems to be the port that the
> > monitor is to be plugged into....it's ruined. I installed a new
Conqueror
> > FX 5200 PCI video card but nothing shows up on the monitor. Which leads
me
> > to believe that in order to install a new video card, I must first
disable
> > the on board card built into the mother board.....no way to do that
since I
> > cannot plug the monitor into the original video card. Correct?
> >
> > If anybody has a suggestion, I would appreciate hearing from
you.....Thanks!
>
> Find someone who has the same type of machine and have them copy down the
> keys they hit to disable to on-board video. Then, you can do it blind and
> hopefully get it right.
>
> Dave
> --
> You can talk about us, but you can't talk without us!
> US Army Signal Corps!!
>
> http://www.geocities.com/davidcasey98
>
> Remove IH8SPAM to reply by email!
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Anonymous
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October 21, 2004 2:04:18 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

The 2350 uses an Intel-designed motherboard and the BIOS default for the video
is PCI, as I can recall. Try this: Unplug the system, open the chassis, remove
the C2032 3v lithium battery for a couple of hours (just to be sure). Put the
battery back in, power up the computer. You should see system Power On Self
Test (POST) messages on the monitor attached to the PCI card. Removing the
battery eliminates the electrical current necessary to retain the current BIOS
CMOS settings, invalidates the settings and sets them back to the factory
default next time the system is powered up. There is probably also a CMOS reset
jumper block on the motherboard. Setting the CMOS jumper to the reset position
accomplishes the same result as removing the battery... Ben Myers

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:15:27 GMT, "RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote:

>I "inherited" a Dell Dimension 2350 with Windows XP on it. The friend who
>gave it to me had a temper tantrum one day when he could not get the
>computer to do something he wanted. As a result, he ripped all the wires
>off of the back of it. The only damage seems to be the port that the
>monitor is to be plugged into....it's ruined. I installed a new Conqueror
>FX 5200 PCI video card but nothing shows up on the monitor. Which leads me
>to believe that in order to install a new video card, I must first disable
>the on board card built into the mother board.....no way to do that since I
>cannot plug the monitor into the original video card. Correct?
>
>If anybody has a suggestion, I would appreciate hearing from you.....Thanks!
>
>
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 21, 2004 2:43:30 AM

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Thanks, Ben. I'll give it a try. Anybody else have other suggestions?




<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:4176dfe0.25148774@news.charter.net...
> The 2350 uses an Intel-designed motherboard and the BIOS default for the
video
> is PCI, as I can recall. Try this: Unplug the system, open the chassis,
remove
> the C2032 3v lithium battery for a couple of hours (just to be sure). Put
the
> battery back in, power up the computer. You should see system Power On
Self
> Test (POST) messages on the monitor attached to the PCI card. Removing
the
> battery eliminates the electrical current necessary to retain the current
BIOS
> CMOS settings, invalidates the settings and sets them back to the factory
> default next time the system is powered up. There is probably also a CMOS
reset
> jumper block on the motherboard. Setting the CMOS jumper to the reset
position
> accomplishes the same result as removing the battery... Ben Myers
>
> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:15:27 GMT, "RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote:
>
> >I "inherited" a Dell Dimension 2350 with Windows XP on it. The friend
who
> >gave it to me had a temper tantrum one day when he could not get the
> >computer to do something he wanted. As a result, he ripped all the wires
> >off of the back of it. The only damage seems to be the port that the
> >monitor is to be plugged into....it's ruined. I installed a new
Conqueror
> >FX 5200 PCI video card but nothing shows up on the monitor. Which leads
me
> >to believe that in order to install a new video card, I must first
disable
> >the on board card built into the mother board.....no way to do that since
I
> >cannot plug the monitor into the original video card. Correct?
> >
> >If anybody has a suggestion, I would appreciate hearing from
you.....Thanks!
> >
> >
>
Anonymous
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October 21, 2004 2:43:31 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Well you could spring for this motherboard. At $5 Canadian it is a bargain.
Go to www.ebay.ca and enter the following bid number...

6715256109


Regards,
John O.


"RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote in message
news:mSBdd.2539$%h1.2472@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Thanks, Ben. I'll give it a try. Anybody else have other suggestions?
>
>
>
>
> <ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
> news:4176dfe0.25148774@news.charter.net...
>> The 2350 uses an Intel-designed motherboard and the BIOS default for the
> video
>> is PCI, as I can recall. Try this: Unplug the system, open the chassis,
> remove
>> the C2032 3v lithium battery for a couple of hours (just to be sure).
>> Put
> the
>> battery back in, power up the computer. You should see system Power On
> Self
>> Test (POST) messages on the monitor attached to the PCI card. Removing
> the
>> battery eliminates the electrical current necessary to retain the current
> BIOS
>> CMOS settings, invalidates the settings and sets them back to the factory
>> default next time the system is powered up. There is probably also a
>> CMOS
> reset
>> jumper block on the motherboard. Setting the CMOS jumper to the reset
> position
>> accomplishes the same result as removing the battery... Ben Myers
>>
>> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:15:27 GMT, "RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I "inherited" a Dell Dimension 2350 with Windows XP on it. The friend
> who
>> >gave it to me had a temper tantrum one day when he could not get the
>> >computer to do something he wanted. As a result, he ripped all the
>> >wires
>> >off of the back of it. The only damage seems to be the port that the
>> >monitor is to be plugged into....it's ruined. I installed a new
> Conqueror
>> >FX 5200 PCI video card but nothing shows up on the monitor. Which leads
> me
>> >to believe that in order to install a new video card, I must first
> disable
>> >the on board card built into the mother board.....no way to do that
>> >since
> I
>> >cannot plug the monitor into the original video card. Correct?
>> >
>> >If anybody has a suggestion, I would appreciate hearing from
> you.....Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 22, 2004 1:24:01 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Ben,

Sorry to say, it didn't work......no change.


<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:4176dfe0.25148774@news.charter.net...
> The 2350 uses an Intel-designed motherboard and the BIOS default for the
video
> is PCI, as I can recall. Try this: Unplug the system, open the chassis,
remove
> the C2032 3v lithium battery for a couple of hours (just to be sure). Put
the
> battery back in, power up the computer. You should see system Power On
Self
> Test (POST) messages on the monitor attached to the PCI card. Removing
the
> battery eliminates the electrical current necessary to retain the current
BIOS
> CMOS settings, invalidates the settings and sets them back to the factory
> default next time the system is powered up. There is probably also a CMOS
reset
> jumper block on the motherboard. Setting the CMOS jumper to the reset
position
> accomplishes the same result as removing the battery... Ben Myers
>
> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:15:27 GMT, "RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote:
>
> >I "inherited" a Dell Dimension 2350 with Windows XP on it. The friend
who
> >gave it to me had a temper tantrum one day when he could not get the
> >computer to do something he wanted. As a result, he ripped all the wires
> >off of the back of it. The only damage seems to be the port that the
> >monitor is to be plugged into....it's ruined. I installed a new
Conqueror
> >FX 5200 PCI video card but nothing shows up on the monitor. Which leads
me
> >to believe that in order to install a new video card, I must first
disable
> >the on board card built into the mother board.....no way to do that since
I
> >cannot plug the monitor into the original video card. Correct?
> >
> >If anybody has a suggestion, I would appreciate hearing from
you.....Thanks!
> >
> >
>
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 22, 2004 8:28:14 AM

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Well, it;s likely your hot-tempered friend messed up the motherboard beyond
repair... Ben Myers

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 21:24:01 GMT, "RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote:

>Ben,
>
>Sorry to say, it didn't work......no change.
>
>
><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
>news:4176dfe0.25148774@news.charter.net...
>> The 2350 uses an Intel-designed motherboard and the BIOS default for the
>video
>> is PCI, as I can recall. Try this: Unplug the system, open the chassis,
>remove
>> the C2032 3v lithium battery for a couple of hours (just to be sure). Put
>the
>> battery back in, power up the computer. You should see system Power On
>Self
>> Test (POST) messages on the monitor attached to the PCI card. Removing
>the
>> battery eliminates the electrical current necessary to retain the current
>BIOS
>> CMOS settings, invalidates the settings and sets them back to the factory
>> default next time the system is powered up. There is probably also a CMOS
>reset
>> jumper block on the motherboard. Setting the CMOS jumper to the reset
>position
>> accomplishes the same result as removing the battery... Ben Myers
>>
>> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:15:27 GMT, "RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I "inherited" a Dell Dimension 2350 with Windows XP on it. The friend
>who
>> >gave it to me had a temper tantrum one day when he could not get the
>> >computer to do something he wanted. As a result, he ripped all the wires
>> >off of the back of it. The only damage seems to be the port that the
>> >monitor is to be plugged into....it's ruined. I installed a new
>Conqueror
>> >FX 5200 PCI video card but nothing shows up on the monitor. Which leads
>me
>> >to believe that in order to install a new video card, I must first
>disable
>> >the on board card built into the mother board.....no way to do that since
>I
>> >cannot plug the monitor into the original video card. Correct?
>> >
>> >If anybody has a suggestion, I would appreciate hearing from
>you.....Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
October 22, 2004 12:31:24 PM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers) wrote in message news:<41788c38.59834254@news.charter.net>...
> Well, it;s likely your hot-tempered friend messed up the motherboard beyond
> repair... Ben Myers
>
This is likely the problem. The on board video on Dells without
an agp slot can't be disabled and does not need to be in order to
add a pci video card. Smack your friend and have them buy you a new
motherboard. Best wishes...
Dave
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 23, 2004 2:00:15 AM

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On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:15:27 GMT, RLF <notime@forspam.com> wrote:

The below links may be of some help:

http://www.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=v3o6p...*dell*%26lr%3D%26hl%3Den


http://www.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=Xns93...*dell*%26lr%3D%26hl%3Den


http://www.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=v3jki...*dell*%26lr%3D%26hl%3Den

http://www.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=pan.2...:*dell*%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26start%3D20%26sa%3DN


To summarise, it appears that if your BIOS does not have the option to
switch to a PCI video card,
then you can upgrade the bios(by d/loading from the Dell site).

I also have a 2350 - I'll check my BIOS the next time I turn the machine
on, and will advise you
if I see an option for a PCI card.

Good luck.

Buck
--
Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 23, 2004 2:00:16 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

The 2350 does have a BIOS option to switch from integrated to PCI video. But
I'm afraid that the motherboard is physically damaged beyond recall based on the
description from the OP... Ben Myers

On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 22:00:15 +1000, "Buck Rogers" <who@cares.com.au> wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:15:27 GMT, RLF <notime@forspam.com> wrote:
>
>The below links may be of some help:
>
>http://www.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=v3o6p...*dell*%26lr%3D%26hl%3Den
>
>
>http://www.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=Xns93...*dell*%26lr%3D%26hl%3Den
>
>
>http://www.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=v3jki...*dell*%26lr%3D%26hl%3Den
>
>http://www.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=pan.2...:*dell*%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26start%3D20%26sa%3DN
>
>
>To summarise, it appears that if your BIOS does not have the option to
>switch to a PCI video card,
>then you can upgrade the bios(by d/loading from the Dell site).
>
>I also have a 2350 - I'll check my BIOS the next time I turn the machine
>on, and will advise you
>if I see an option for a PCI card.
>
>Good luck.
>
>Buck
>--
>Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 23, 2004 2:00:16 AM

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Buck,

Thanks for the info.....any other info you can find will be much
appreciated.



"Buck Rogers" <who@cares.com.au> wrote in message
news:o psf9sypt8kru5fy@mycomput-fdagxy...
> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:15:27 GMT, RLF <notime@forspam.com> wrote:
>
> The below links may be of some help:
>
>
http://www.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=v3o6p...
rnews.com&rnum=3&prev=/groups%3Fas_q%3D2350%2520pci%2520video%26safe%3Dimage
s%26as_ugroup%3D*dell*%26lr%3D%26hl%3Den
>
>
>
http://www.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=Xns93...
0207.225.159.6&rnum=7&prev=/groups%3Fas_q%3D2350%2520pci%2520video%26safe%3D
images%26as_ugroup%3D*dell*%26lr%3D%26hl%3Den
>
>
>
http://www.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=v3jki...
rnews.com&rnum=9&prev=/groups%3Fas_q%3D2350%2520pci%2520video%26safe%3Dimage
s%26as_ugroup%3D*dell*%26lr%3D%26hl%3Den
>
>
http://www.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=pan.2...
0922%40earthlink.net&rnum=21&prev=/groups%3Fq%3D2350%2Bpci%2Bvideo%2Bgroup:*
dell*%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26start%3D20%26sa%3DN
>
>
> To summarise, it appears that if your BIOS does not have the option to
> switch to a PCI video card,
> then you can upgrade the bios(by d/loading from the Dell site).
>
> I also have a 2350 - I'll check my BIOS the next time I turn the machine
> on, and will advise you
> if I see an option for a PCI card.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Buck
> --
> Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 23, 2004 2:00:17 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Actually, I see no other physical damage other than the port where the
monitor is to be plugged into is broken. Just the little prongs sticking
out.
<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:417914e6.3655804@news.charter.net...
> The 2350 does have a BIOS option to switch from integrated to PCI video.
But
> I'm afraid that the motherboard is physically damaged beyond recall based
on the
> description from the OP... Ben Myers
>
> On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 22:00:15 +1000, "Buck Rogers" <who@cares.com.au>
wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:15:27 GMT, RLF <notime@forspam.com> wrote:
> >
> >The below links may be of some help:
> >
>
>http://www.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=v3o6p...
ernews.com&rnum=3&prev=/groups%3Fas_q%3D2350%2520pci%2520video%26safe%3Dimag
es%26as_ugroup%3D*dell*%26lr%3D%26hl%3Den
> >
> >
>
>http://www.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=Xns93...
40207.225.159.6&rnum=7&prev=/groups%3Fas_q%3D2350%2520pci%2520video%26safe%3
Dimages%26as_ugroup%3D*dell*%26lr%3D%26hl%3Den
> >
> >
>
>http://www.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=v3jki...
ernews.com&rnum=9&prev=/groups%3Fas_q%3D2350%2520pci%2520video%26safe%3Dimag
es%26as_ugroup%3D*dell*%26lr%3D%26hl%3Den
> >
>
>http://www.google.com.au/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=pan.2...
40922%40earthlink.net&rnum=21&prev=/groups%3Fq%3D2350%2Bpci%2Bvideo%2Bgroup:
*dell*%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26start%3D20%26sa%3DN
> >
> >
> >To summarise, it appears that if your BIOS does not have the option to
> >switch to a PCI video card,
> >then you can upgrade the bios(by d/loading from the Dell site).
> >
> >I also have a 2350 - I'll check my BIOS the next time I turn the machine
> >on, and will advise you
> >if I see an option for a PCI card.
> >
> >Good luck.
> >
> >Buck
> >--
> >Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
>
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 24, 2004 12:52:47 AM

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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:54:28 GMT, RLF <notime@forspam.com> wrote:

> Buck,
>
> Thanks for the info.....any other info you can find will be much
> appreciated.
>

In my BIOS, there is a "Use primary adapter" setting, with the option
to switch it from "onboard" to "auto". The BIOS should then detect your
PCI video card.

If you don't have this setting, d/l the latest bios for the 2350 from
the dell site.

Buck
--
Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 25, 2004 3:33:51 PM

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I appreciate the info, Buck. Only problem is, I cannot access the bios
since I cannot plug the monitor into the original video port......it's
damaged.

Any more suggestions?

Thanks!




"Buck Rogers" <who@cares.com.au> wrote in message
news:o psgbkh9qckru5fy@mycomput-fdagxy...
> On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:54:28 GMT, RLF <notime@forspam.com> wrote:
>
> > Buck,
> >
> > Thanks for the info.....any other info you can find will be much
> > appreciated.
> >
>
> In my BIOS, there is a "Use primary adapter" setting, with the option
> to switch it from "onboard" to "auto". The BIOS should then detect your
> PCI video card.
>
> If you don't have this setting, d/l the latest bios for the 2350 from
> the dell site.
>
> Buck
> --
> Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 25, 2004 3:33:52 PM

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"RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote in message
news:zw5fd.6652$KJ6.6246@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>I appreciate the info, Buck. Only problem is, I cannot access the bios
> since I cannot plug the monitor into the original video port......it's
> damaged.
>
> Any more suggestions?
>
> Thanks!
>

<snip>

The 2350 has a multi-paged BIOS (Award-type) unlike the current 2400's and
3000's, which have a single page BIOS. The odd thing about the 2350 BIOS as
shown on the Dell support site is that there is NO integrated video or video
adapter preference shown:

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2350/s...

Integrated devices appear on the 'advanced' page of the BIOS, and there are
no video settings shown. I can't imagine this being correct, but it has been
a while since I have worked with one of these models.

With current systems, I'd expect them to have the ability to auto-detect
your PCI graphics card w/o the need to change BIOS manually.

It would be helpful to post your message over at the Dell site /community
forum / Dimension / Video and hook up with someone who has a working 2350 to
confirm the BIOS options, yea or nay.

Are you saying that this numbskull completely ripped the 15-pin DIN connect
OFF of the motherboard? Or is it still there with pins sticking out of the
(blue) socket????


Stew
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 25, 2004 5:45:26 PM

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Stew.....

Thanks for the info. Yes, the numbskull ripped the blue socket right off of
the motherboard. The fifteen pins are still there but I see no way to
reattach the plug to the pins. Crazy idiot, huh? The guy needs to learn
how to control his temper. Well, if I could find a way to fix it, I would
have a decent second computer.


"S.Lewis" <stew1960@cover.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:6d7fd.197731$as2.38681@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>
> "RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote in message
> news:zw5fd.6652$KJ6.6246@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >I appreciate the info, Buck. Only problem is, I cannot access the bios
> > since I cannot plug the monitor into the original video port......it's
> > damaged.
> >
> > Any more suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>
> <snip>
>
> The 2350 has a multi-paged BIOS (Award-type) unlike the current 2400's and
> 3000's, which have a single page BIOS. The odd thing about the 2350 BIOS
as
> shown on the Dell support site is that there is NO integrated video or
video
> adapter preference shown:
>
> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2350/s...
>
> Integrated devices appear on the 'advanced' page of the BIOS, and there
are
> no video settings shown. I can't imagine this being correct, but it has
been
> a while since I have worked with one of these models.
>
> With current systems, I'd expect them to have the ability to auto-detect
> your PCI graphics card w/o the need to change BIOS manually.
>
> It would be helpful to post your message over at the Dell site /community
> forum / Dimension / Video and hook up with someone who has a working 2350
to
> confirm the BIOS options, yea or nay.
>
> Are you saying that this numbskull completely ripped the 15-pin DIN
connect
> OFF of the motherboard? Or is it still there with pins sticking out of
the
> (blue) socket????
>
>
> Stew
>
>
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 25, 2004 5:45:27 PM

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"RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote in message
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> Stew.....
>
> Thanks for the info. Yes, the numbskull ripped the blue socket right off
> of
> the motherboard. The fifteen pins are still there but I see no way to
> reattach the plug to the pins. Crazy idiot, huh? The guy needs to learn
> how to control his temper. Well, if I could find a way to fix it, I would
> have a decent second computer.
>
>


Another option? (not an endorsement or even a recommendation, mind you):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=...


I'd send the guy an e-mail to gauge his response time and check his shipping
price.

It's the same board (in effect, newer 845 chipset), but with 400mhz and
533mhz CPU support:

2350 specs:
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2350/s...

2400 specs:
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2400/e...


Board can be swapped out in 15 mins or less with some assistance. I'd be
glad to help via mail if you need it.


Just an option.


Stew
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 25, 2004 7:25:43 PM

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Stew,

If I were to install this new motherboard, do you think I would be able to
reload Windows XP from the CD Rom that was supplied by Dell when the
computer was new?


"S.Lewis" <stew1960@cover.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:Ca8fd.198030$as2.132187@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>
> "RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote in message
> news:Wr7fd.6694$KJ6.5644@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > Stew.....
> >
> > Thanks for the info. Yes, the numbskull ripped the blue socket right
off
> > of
> > the motherboard. The fifteen pins are still there but I see no way to
> > reattach the plug to the pins. Crazy idiot, huh? The guy needs to
learn
> > how to control his temper. Well, if I could find a way to fix it, I
would
> > have a decent second computer.
> >
> >
>
>
> Another option? (not an endorsement or even a recommendation, mind you):
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=...
rd=1
>
>
> I'd send the guy an e-mail to gauge his response time and check his
shipping
> price.
>
> It's the same board (in effect, newer 845 chipset), but with 400mhz and
> 533mhz CPU support:
>
> 2350 specs:
> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2350/s...
>
> 2400 specs:
> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2400/e...
>
>
> Board can be swapped out in 15 mins or less with some assistance. I'd be
> glad to help via mail if you need it.
>
>
> Just an option.
>
>
> Stew
>
>
>
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 25, 2004 7:25:44 PM

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"RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote in message
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> Stew,
>
> If I were to install this new motherboard, do you think I would be able to
> reload Windows XP from the CD Rom that was supplied by Dell when the
> computer was new?
>
>


Yessir.


Stew
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 25, 2004 8:42:56 PM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

I'm not Stew. But... Yes, you could reload XP from the Dell-supplied "Restore"
CD-ROM and the driver CD-ROM.

Honestly, I thoink that motheboard replacement is the way to go. At this point,
there is no clue as to the damage on the original 2350 motherboard. For the
price of a 2400 motherboard you would have the equivalent of a system with a
street price around $300. Seems well worth it to me... Ben Myers

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:25:43 GMT, "RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote:

>Stew,
>
>If I were to install this new motherboard, do you think I would be able to
>reload Windows XP from the CD Rom that was supplied by Dell when the
>computer was new?
>
>
>"S.Lewis" <stew1960@cover.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>news:Ca8fd.198030$as2.132187@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>
>> "RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote in message
>> news:Wr7fd.6694$KJ6.5644@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> > Stew.....
>> >
>> > Thanks for the info. Yes, the numbskull ripped the blue socket right
>off
>> > of
>> > the motherboard. The fifteen pins are still there but I see no way to
>> > reattach the plug to the pins. Crazy idiot, huh? The guy needs to
>learn
>> > how to control his temper. Well, if I could find a way to fix it, I
>would
>> > have a decent second computer.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> Another option? (not an endorsement or even a recommendation, mind you):
>>
>>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=...
>rd=1
>>
>>
>> I'd send the guy an e-mail to gauge his response time and check his
>shipping
>> price.
>>
>> It's the same board (in effect, newer 845 chipset), but with 400mhz and
>> 533mhz CPU support:
>>
>> 2350 specs:
>> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2350/s...
>>
>> 2400 specs:
>> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2400/e...
>>
>>
>> Board can be swapped out in 15 mins or less with some assistance. I'd be
>> glad to help via mail if you need it.
>>
>>
>> Just an option.
>>
>>
>> Stew
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 25, 2004 8:42:57 PM

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<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:417d2c8a.12846933@news.charter.net...
> I'm not Stew. But... Yes, you could reload XP from the Dell-supplied
> "Restore"
> CD-ROM and the driver CD-ROM.
>
> Honestly, I thoink that motheboard replacement is the way to go. At this
> point,
> there is no clue as to the damage on the original 2350 motherboard. For
> the
> price of a 2400 motherboard you would have the equivalent of a system with
> a
> street price around $300. Seems well worth it to me... Ben Myers
>


I tend to agree, pending 1) the outcome of the auction, 2) the seller's
shipping price, and 3) the seller's response to e-mailed inquiries.

If the OP could get the board for $60 or less (the seller is guaranteeing
money back minus shipping), it would be well worth getting the board (to
me).

The board change can be done rather easily with an e-mail or two.


Stew
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 25, 2004 10:04:43 PM

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A 2350 is new enough to have come with XP?

Tom
"S.Lewis" <stew1960@cover.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>
> "RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote in message
> news:XV8fd.2005$kM.1045@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> Stew,
>>
>> If I were to install this new motherboard, do you think I would be able
>> to
>> reload Windows XP from the CD Rom that was supplied by Dell when the
>> computer was new?
>>
>>
>
>
> Yessir.
>
>
> Stew
>
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 25, 2004 10:43:12 PM

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"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:fsCdnaOwkciB5ODcRVn-2w@comcast.com...
>A 2350 is new enough to have come with XP?
>
> Tom


Yes sir. I believe it was the stock OS on that machine, pre SP1. I believe
the 2200's and 4300's were the last I saw arriving with WinMe installed and
the XP "free upgrade" coupon.

Not sure how the premium Dimensions broke down. I feel sure that the 8100s
were all or mostly WinMe, which would mean that some of the early 8200's
transitioned over to XP.


Stew
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 26, 2004 1:59:23 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Thanks to all.....I just put in a bid for the motherboard. Of course, if
anyone has any alternative suggestions, I would appreciate hearing them!

Rob (Winter Park, FL)


"S.Lewis" <stew1960@cover.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:Zpbfd.199033$as2.90246@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>
> "RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote in message
> news:XV8fd.2005$kM.1045@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > Stew,
> >
> > If I were to install this new motherboard, do you think I would be able
to
> > reload Windows XP from the CD Rom that was supplied by Dell when the
> > computer was new?
> >
> >
>
>
> Yessir.
>
>
> Stew
>
>
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 26, 2004 1:59:24 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

I cannot see any at all. If the MB is that damaged then who knows what other
kind of damage your friend did. And I agree with one more thing. Your friend
has some real anger management issues. Anyone that inconsiderate of his own
property must surely be even more inconsiderate with the property of others.

Installing the new MB should be a snap and you will be much happier with the
newer MB. Once the MB arrives, post again here and I am sure that there will
be plenty of help to guide you along.

Regards,
John O.

"RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks to all.....I just put in a bid for the motherboard. Of course, if
> anyone has any alternative suggestions, I would appreciate hearing them!
>
> Rob (Winter Park, FL)
>
>
> "S.Lewis" <stew1960@cover.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:Zpbfd.199033$as2.90246@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>
>> "RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote in message
>> news:XV8fd.2005$kM.1045@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> > Stew,
>> >
>> > If I were to install this new motherboard, do you think I would be able
> to
>> > reload Windows XP from the CD Rom that was supplied by Dell when the
>> > computer was new?
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> Yessir.
>>
>>
>> Stew
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 26, 2004 4:51:58 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.dell (More info?)

Thanks, John. And yes, anger management is a problem for him. Maybe some
day he will learn to leave street drugs alone and then learn that life needs
not be as stressful.


"JJO" <jjo@nospam.ca> wrote in message
news:RZffd.7581$Qs6.592204@news20.bellglobal.com...
> I cannot see any at all. If the MB is that damaged then who knows what
other
> kind of damage your friend did. And I agree with one more thing. Your
friend
> has some real anger management issues. Anyone that inconsiderate of his
own
> property must surely be even more inconsiderate with the property of
others.
>
> Installing the new MB should be a snap and you will be much happier with
the
> newer MB. Once the MB arrives, post again here and I am sure that there
will
> be plenty of help to guide you along.
>
> Regards,
> John O.
>
> "RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote in message
> news:%Gefd.2271$kM.331@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > Thanks to all.....I just put in a bid for the motherboard. Of course,
if
> > anyone has any alternative suggestions, I would appreciate hearing them!
> >
> > Rob (Winter Park, FL)
> >
> >
> > "S.Lewis" <stew1960@cover.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:Zpbfd.199033$as2.90246@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >>
> >> "RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote in message
> >> news:XV8fd.2005$kM.1045@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >> > Stew,
> >> >
> >> > If I were to install this new motherboard, do you think I would be
able
> > to
> >> > reload Windows XP from the CD Rom that was supplied by Dell when the
> >> > computer was new?
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Yessir.
> >>
> >>
> >> Stew
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
October 26, 2004 4:51:59 AM

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Yes, it has XP. I'm sure


"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
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> A 2350 is new enough to have come with XP?
>
> Tom
> "S.Lewis" <stew1960@cover.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:Zpbfd.199033$as2.90246@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> >
> > "RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote in message
> > news:XV8fd.2005$kM.1045@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >> Stew,
> >>
> >> If I were to install this new motherboard, do you think I would be able
> >> to
> >> reload Windows XP from the CD Rom that was supplied by Dell when the
> >> computer was new?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Yessir.
> >
> >
> > Stew
> >
>
>
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
November 1, 2004 11:00:30 AM

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"RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote in message
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>I won the Ebay auction. Didn't get the mother board for the $40 opening
> bid...it ended up costing $98. Still not a bad price for what will amount
> to a new computer.
>
> Thanks again, Stew!
>


RLF -

If it's worth it to you, that's all that really matters.

Before we slap one another on the back in celebration, get the board in and
working and then we will hoist one for practicality and inexpensive repairs.

If you need my assistance with the board install, just shoot me an e-mail
with the above subject line in the header (so I won't bounce you).

Good luck and post back.


Stew

stew1960ATbellsouthDOTnet
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
November 1, 2004 6:59:08 PM

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Stew,

It's being shipped to me here in Winter Park (Orlando), FL from Sterling
Heights (Detroit), MI. I'll be out of town for a few days so it will take
some time till I get the opportunity to install it. Keep watching this
group. I'll let you know the results.

Thanks again.

Rob


"S.Lewis" <stew1960@cover.bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>
> "RLF" <notime@forspam.com> wrote in message
> news:TYphd.848$O11.369@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >I won the Ebay auction. Didn't get the mother board for the $40 opening
> > bid...it ended up costing $98. Still not a bad price for what will
amount
> > to a new computer.
> >
> > Thanks again, Stew!
> >
>
>
> RLF -
>
> If it's worth it to you, that's all that really matters.
>
> Before we slap one another on the back in celebration, get the board in
and
> working and then we will hoist one for practicality and inexpensive
repairs.
>
> If you need my assistance with the board install, just shoot me an e-mail
> with the above subject line in the header (so I won't bounce you).
>
> Good luck and post back.
>
>
> Stew
>
> stew1960ATbellsouthDOTnet
>
>
!