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April 5, 2002 1:29:50 AM

I am building a VERY highly suped up computer. I was ust wandering if this is the Best CPU out there right now and if there are any better ones. Thanks for all your help. Oh yes, and also is this CPU compatible w/ most ATX mobos? Thanks again,
Tedro

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by ComputerGeek101 on 04/05/02 04:32 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

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April 5, 2002 1:35:59 AM

First of all, it's Athlon not Anthon, please never say that name again, guhhh!
Second of all, please give us your budget limit, so we can help you find the best bang for the buck max performance. AthlonXPs are excellent, Pentium 4s are excellent when above 2.2GHZ and with RDRAM. But again we need your money input to help.

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April 5, 2002 1:41:40 AM

My bad I know it's Athlon. Ha. Anyways I want this computer to be the best of the best and really super! My price limit for this component would be no more then 250$. Thanks. I want something that had a 2. Ghz or higher processor. Can you still help please. I currently Have in my VAIO a Pentium 4 1.30 GHz. I want more about 2x as much. Thanks!
Tedro
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April 5, 2002 1:44:15 AM

are you on Drugs, you want to build a Suped up computer, the best of the best with a 250$ limit ???

Are you talking about your limit on price just for the CPU ??

Measure Twice, Cut Once!!
April 5, 2002 1:50:28 AM

Yes! Just for the CPU is this bad? Give me guidence I need it. As you can see. Just tell me the best CPU out there and I wil buy the thing if I can afford it. Under about 250$. Thanks
April 5, 2002 2:00:10 AM

Uhm...yeah...What the HELL is an Anthon XP?

"When there's a will, there's a way."
April 5, 2002 2:02:20 AM

Ughhh it's called a Typo buddy calm down!
April 5, 2002 2:03:25 AM

LoL, i'm just j/k'ing wit ya :)  It's all cool

"When there's a will, there's a way."
April 5, 2002 2:04:04 AM

O.k. Im sorry. I still need help though!!!
April 5, 2002 2:06:18 AM

Heh, if they did make the names a little different...the possibilites.

New!!!
AMD Anthon XP PIV+++ "The pentium crusher!"
Pantium IVb "It's an intel!"
Nvidia Getforce4 "Power at a price!"
Ati Re-adeon "Radeon with avengence!"

Ho, the names that could exist :o 

"When there's a will, there's a way."
April 5, 2002 2:08:18 AM

You want to spend no more than $250 on the processor, yet want a 2GHz or faster processor... First off, there are no 2GHz (or faster) AMD processors. Their fastest processor is currently the 1.73GHz Athlon (XP 2100+). Are you willing to overclock if the result is completely stable? You can get a Pentium 4 1.6A and run it at 2.4GHz fairly easily.

-Raystonn


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April 5, 2002 2:08:38 AM

O.k. so do you think the, AMD Anthon XP PIV+++ is a good buy? How much is it and how fast does it run?
April 5, 2002 2:13:35 AM

Uhm...two things...there is no such thing as a pentium4 1.3, it doesn't exist that crappy (I hope =/). Next, you want 2x as much what? Mhz??? There is no such thing as a 2.6Ghz processor...it would be disgustingly expensive.

You want my two cents...Here it is then

AMD Athlon XP 2100+
Asus A7V-333, Via Kt333 chipset
1 Stick of 512MB PC-333 DDR-SDRAM
Leadtek Winfast Geforce4 Ti4600
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum
Klipsch Promedia 5.1 speakers
Windows 2000 Professional (don't respond to this if you don't like it)
Full Tower Antec Case
400Watt PSU, preferably Antec as well
1 52x CD-ROM Drive
1 32x24x48 CD-RW Drive
1 16x40 PCI hardware DVD Drive
(if you have extra money) 1 DVD-ROM/RW/R, not sure of brand
Viewsonic 21 inch monitor

Sickly powerful, but oh so expensive

"When there's a will, there's a way."
April 5, 2002 2:14:35 AM

Uhm...haha?? I was joking...

"When there's a will, there's a way."
April 5, 2002 2:17:38 AM

Hey Quetzacoatl Thanks so much this helps me out a bunch! I know it will be expensive but it will last me for year to come. Um one thing tho, I know it said not to respond if you don't like win2000 but would I be able to put Windows XP on that? (Sorry) But again thank you so much for all your help. I apreciate it alot!
Tedro
April 5, 2002 2:20:48 AM

Yeah if you want to. Just make sure you get the XP Pro, not the crappy home version.

"When there's a will, there's a way."
April 5, 2002 2:24:06 AM

Quote:

O.k. so do you think the, AMD Anthon XP PIV+++ is a good buy?

I prefer to call it the Pentathlon! :wink:

AMD technology + Intel technology = Intel/AMD Pentathlon IV; the <b>ULTIMATE</b> PC processor
April 5, 2002 2:30:26 AM

Yes I am getting the Professional version um Quetzacoatl all that stuff you showed me above is that all compatible together?
April 5, 2002 2:30:59 AM

That's beyond scary...AMD and Intel working together...oh my god they would be a force to reckon with. Pentathalon eh? Ever think of Athlo-entium? Hehe, j/k :) 

"When there's a will, there's a way."
April 5, 2002 2:31:45 AM

Yes it will work together very nicely for 2 years+ i'd guess

"When there's a will, there's a way."
April 5, 2002 2:31:53 AM

Yes it will work together very nicely for 2 years+ i'd guess before upgrading

"When there's a will, there's a way."
April 5, 2002 4:56:53 PM

There was a short-lived P4 1.3, but it was only made in socket 423.

ComputerGeek101, three questions for you.

What are you upgrading? Just the CPU, building a new computer, etc.

What's your total budget for the upgrade?

Are you up for overclocking?

<font color=blue>If you don't buy Windows, then the terrorists have already won!</font color=blue> - Microsoft
April 5, 2002 7:41:44 PM

Oh yuck...a P4 socket 423 only 1.3Ghz??? My gods, I bet my Athlon T-bird 1.0Ghz could beat it...well, i'd have to underclock it, it's currently at 1.46Ghz :) 

"When there's a will, there's a way."
April 5, 2002 8:27:04 PM

In response to FatBurger.
3 Questions to answer.
1. I am building a whole new computer.
2. Budget hmm all's I can say is I have the money to spend. It's just do I really wanna spend it.
3. Possibly (wait what does this mean?)
Thanks,
Tedro

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by ComputerGeek101 on 04/05/02 04:29 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
April 5, 2002 9:00:42 PM

Alright, you can get the following TOP OF THE LINE:

-Abit TH7 II Motherboard
-Pentium 4 2.4GHZ
-1.024GB RDRAM PC800
-Asus V8460 Ultra Geforce 4 Ti4600 (or any GF4 Ti4600 brand, since this one isn't out yet AFAIK)
-Sound Blaster Audigy Ex Platinum MP3 5.1
-10/100 Network Card
-Antex 400W Power Supply (not sure if P4s still need the extra connector?)
-40*12*40 Plextor CDRW (Yes, 40X Write, Read em and write em!)
-16X DVD, any brand. (you want fast read times with gaming)
-5.1 Surround System, from any brand you deem. I personally suggest my own, the Labtec Arena 530, but it's 4.1.
-Windows XP Home (Pro if you want server)

With this basic configuration which you can switch later on, you are guaranteed full power in any game you got, and will last you for 2 years for sure. You may later on get Geforce 5, or ClawHammer, but for now this one is your Black belt.


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April 5, 2002 9:04:08 PM

Overclocking is running your components faster than they were intended. Although this voids your warranty, if done right it does not pose any risk to your components.

<font color=blue>If you don't buy Windows, then the terrorists have already won!</font color=blue> - Microsoft
April 5, 2002 11:49:44 PM

Hey, but if he gets an AMD system, he can upgrade to a soon to be Athlon Thouroughbred. Can't with Intel! Better off waiting till 133Mhz FSB and the PivB...and I guess PC-1066 RDR unless Intel feels like gunning for a dual-channel DDR which would absolutely finish off Rambus's pitiful existance. Remember the i820? It's time for revenge for Intel :) 

"When there's a will, there's a way."
April 5, 2002 11:52:07 PM

You're right, I forgot you couldn't upgrade to Thoroughbred on a P4 board.

BTW, if we allowed RDRAM the same space on the motherboard as DDR takes up in it's current form, we'd have 12.8GB/s of bandwidth.

<font color=blue>If you don't buy Windows, then the terrorists have already won!</font color=blue> - Microsoft
April 6, 2002 1:01:05 AM

Do you mean a serial arrangement of 8 sticks of PC-800 RDR??? That isn't very practical...unless you meant something else =/

"When there's a will, there's a way."
April 6, 2002 2:39:13 AM

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BTW, if we allowed RDRAM the same space on the motherboard as DDR takes up in it's current form, we'd have 12.8GB/s of bandwidth.

Actually, you would need at least 8 RIMM slots that would take up significantly more space - far more than is used up by a 128bit bus. To have a truly competing platform with that bandwidth you would really need 16 RIMM slots with today's technology (so you could add RAM later). If you had 32bit RIMMs you would "only" need 8. The bus traces, while important, are not really a huge factor in today's DDR environment - it adds only $5 to $15 at most to the cost of the motherboard.

I thought a thought, but the thought I thought wasn't the thought I thought I had thought.
April 6, 2002 3:33:08 AM

Yes but he wants now, if he can wait, he can get the 533MHZ FSB version. He CAN use the next P4s until the next P4 change, most likely Prescott, and obviously a socket change with Intel's trademark!
As for the AMD system, I also feel odd for recommending against my own favorite mark, but I have to face it, Intel has done great with the 2.4GHZ and upwards, so AMD HAS GOT to hurry the Tbred and up it fast to compete. THEN and only THEN can I possibly regain some confidence on their side!

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April 6, 2002 3:35:18 AM

Dual-channel with 64-bit RIMMs would then put DDR and RDRAM on equal footing, which would give RDRAM 12.8GB/s of bandwidth.

<font color=blue>If you don't buy Windows, then the terrorists have already won!</font color=blue> - Microsoft
April 6, 2002 6:13:00 AM

Like I said, Fatburger, with today's technology...dual-channel DDR is fait-accomplit - already here - 64-bit RIMMs are still a while down the road - we don't even have 32-bit RIMMs yet. Plus, no single processor really needs that much bandwidth yet. In addition, It would be extremely difficult for motherboard manus to run traces for 128bits at 400MHz (800Mhz effective). They had a hard enough time when they were trying to get 32bits working. Even DDR400 only has to run at half that speed.

The trade-off Rambus made with RDRAM was bus width for clock speed - just like Intel traded IPC for clock speed.

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