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April 16, 2002 6:03:47 PM

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The new roadmap shows that AMD is continuing with Barton and it will have 512k L2 cache. Therefore the original rumors about the Thoroughbred with 512k cache are false.

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April 16, 2002 6:14:32 PM

i thought the 512kb L2 rimour was disolved a while ago,
i am wonder if AMD will change their formula for determining the "PR" with Barton, because of the additional cache... i beleive the current formula is 1.5*clockspeed - 500

{bb || !bb} - Shakespeare
April 16, 2002 6:15:32 PM

*homer simpson* mmmmm bart ... bart who farts, bart the tart, bart the big lart, bart that darts, bart mart, bart in a kart, bart the pussy heart. bart with a big heart, bart hart that darts ...

:) 

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April 16, 2002 6:23:27 PM

you ok?

(bb || !bb) - Shakespeare
April 16, 2002 6:36:12 PM

Too bad you don't have voice recognition software running with Babel fish translating the text. It should make for some interesting reading.
April 16, 2002 6:46:59 PM

just so you KNOW (bb || !bb) is always true ... so you can easily replace that with just (1) ... :) 

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April 16, 2002 6:47:39 PM

well... since voice recognition seems to work about 60% of the time, and babelfish french-english is pretty good, say about 70%... you might be able to get the "gist" of what they are saying, but then, who knows about french voice recognition? :smile: i think it would make a very interesting read... judging from some of the translations babelfish has given me...

(bb || !bb) - Shakespeare
April 16, 2002 6:54:45 PM

i know... but what if 'b' isn't declared?
c++ gives, shakespeare's hamlet a whole new dimension!

"to be, not to be, or if be is not declared..."
i know, my humour is poor... but <b>I</b> find it funny and that is all that matters...

(bb || !bb) - Shakespeare
April 16, 2002 7:58:01 PM

I hope this works well for AMD, this would give them an upper hand for Q3, right in time for the Hammer in Q4 or '03 Q1. Here's to see how they manage to squeeze Barton in those tight dates!

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April 16, 2002 9:21:14 PM

Quote:
well... since the identification of voice seems to function about 60% of time, and the French-English babelfish is very good, word about 70%... could you be able to obtain the "gist" of what they say, but then, that the identification of French voice knows? I think that it would make... judge read very interesting from some of the translations that the babelfish gave me...

Or, you can just run things through bablefish converting them from english to french to english again from this board and see what happens <See above text :wink: >

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April 16, 2002 9:57:41 PM

that <b>is</b> very funny, yet the service is free, and i use it from time to time... but maybe my perseption of the world is different because of it...
all i can say is lol...

(bb || !bb) - Shakespeare
April 16, 2002 11:21:02 PM

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I hope this works well for AMD, this would give them an upper hand for Q3, right in time for the Hammer in Q4 or '03 Q1. Here's to see how they manage to squeeze Barton in those tight dates!


Some folks have suggested that Barton may be the version of the chip produced by UMC, ramping up late this year. That would give AMD the headroom they need to get Hammer going well, yet still produce ample Athlons.

Mark-

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April 17, 2002 2:41:30 AM

If you look closely, the mention of SOI technology is removed from the Barton entry. Intersting, eh?

-SammyBoy
April 17, 2002 3:58:11 AM

AMD had already sent out indications that SOI for Athlon (Barton) was no longer needed as Hammer was moving along better than expected. It looks like they simply resurrected the "Barton" name to bow to their critics (Athlon supporters included) and include 512kB L2 cache on the T-Bred core.

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April 17, 2002 10:24:44 AM

~ If you look closely, the mention of SOI technology is removed from the Barton entry. Intersting, eh? ~

The new AMD roadmap (as @ 17 April) has BArton with SOI.

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April 17, 2002 1:45:21 PM

I still say that AMD should have just ditched the Thoroughbred completely and gone straight to Barton.

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April 17, 2002 1:47:22 PM

well on their website as of today (17/04/02) it's changed to NOT include SOI, but it mentions the larger cache
April 17, 2002 2:16:51 PM

How do you figure they will be able to produce ample Athlons? The last article that I read regarding AMD's roadmap mentioned that if they stuck to producing Barton they would increase the likelihood of running into production problems (can't remember where I read it). AMD would have to split their production between Barton, Thoroughbred, XPs, mobile XPs, and then both Hammer lines.
April 17, 2002 8:35:33 PM

I am starting to think that the Tbred is on purpose, slow in production in order to maintain Barton's integrity and production numbers. Thus low Tbred chip yeilds but high Barton ones, to end the Athlon with big reserves to rake some money before closing the die forever.

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