Stability of Processors

if you can wait a little while the t-bred athlon will be coming out which will run cooller than an athlon xp if you building the computer now i would go with the p4 but make sure it is a 1.8a i beleive which is the processor with the northwood core

the P4 platform is much more stable than anything AMD will ever put out.

go with the P4 if you want less headaches.

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What tnadrev said, and not what Amdmeltdown said.


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You put the athlon in, and turn it on, it does not require any more skill to run or setup, thats fud.


Especially if you dont use via, you litterally turn it on and install windows and thats it, no driver no nothing.

Now if by more work you mean research to find a good mobo, ill grant you that.



To the origional poster, why are you comparing a 1700-+ to a 1.8ghz p4, for the price of the 1.8ghz p4 you can get (ripped from pricewatch)

athlon xp 2000+=173
p4 1.8a=182


Without overclocking the 2000+ will seriously out perform the 1.8a for less money, give it a good motherboard and you are set.

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Thanks to all who have replied. I'm a bit of a dummy when it comes to hardware. I'm actually looking at buying a bundle. The choices I have are:

Choice 1: ($1109CDN/$693USD)
Intel P4 1.8GHz (with Northwood chip)
256 Mb (333Mhz)DDR RAM
P4 400Mhz ATX MB
40Gb 7200RPM ATA HD
1.44 Mb Floppy Drive
GEFORCE 2Mx 200 32 Mb AGP VC
24x10x40 CDRW
10/100 Ethernet on board
16 bit 3D sound on board
ATX Mini-Mid 350W Tower
Win Keyboard
2 button wheel mouse
120W Power speakers

Choice 2 ($1299CDN/$811USD):
Intel P4 2GHz (with Northwood chip)
256 Mb (333Mhz)DDR RAM
P4 400Mhz ATX MB
40Gb 7200RPM ATA HD
1.44 Mb Floppy Drive
GEFORCE 2Mx 400 64 Mb VC w/TV out
32x10x40 CDRW
16x DVD
10/100 Ethernet on board
16 bit 3D sound
ATX Mini-Mid 350W Tower
Win Keyboard
2 button wheel mouse
120W Power speakers

Choice 3 ($779CDN/$486USD):
AMD Athlon XP 1.7+ CPU
256 DDR RAM
266 MHx ATX MB
20 GB ATA 100 HD
1.44 Mb Floppy Drive
GEFORCE 2Mx 200 32 Mb AGP VC
40x CD ROM
10/100 Ethernet on board
16 bit 3D sound on board
ATX Mini-Mid 300W Tower
Win Keyboard
2 button wheel mouse
120W Power speakers

I believe the Athlon system uses the SAS chipset, rather than VIA. Is that better? I imagine that some of these components are generic. Most of them are upgradable...What do ya think?



<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by magni on 04/22/02 02:44 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

sure do! been very busy lately and I'm sorry I don't have more time to terrorize you mongrels!

"<b>AMD/VIA!</b>...you are <i>still</i> the weakest link, good bye!"

I mainly meant the care taken in choosing a good chipset and mobo, but a couple more are:

HSF installation force (potential physical damage to Athlon core if not observed)
proper HSF contact with core (potential thermal failure of Athlon if not observed)
quality PSU (Athlons seem more sensitive than P4s to power issues)

Ritesh

You need to find out the brand and model of the motherboards in those three systems. From this we can deduce the chipset and make further recommendations. For example, the P4 system is showing 333 MHz DDR, which probably means it's using the new SiS chipset. Personally, for best results on a P4 I would go with an Intel chipset, like the 845 for DDR.

Ritesh

The 845D's performance sucks compared to its siblings and rivals from SiS and VIA.

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I was referring to stability, not performance. Even so, "sucks" is too strong a word for relative performance since the 845D is easily fast enough to be in the same ballpark with the non-Intel DDR chipsets. You wouldn't notice a difference on today's applications anyway, any chipset is fast enough except for the original 845. Who cares about a few frames per second here and there when you can count on getting rock solid stability when matching an Intel processor with an Intel chipset?

BTW, I like your new sig.

Ritesh

He's not buying an Athlon Thunderbird in September of 2001.

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