AthlonXP 1800+ vs. P4 1.8A

Kanaz

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AthlonXP 1800+ vs. P4 1.8A

This is <i>not</i> an AMD vs. Intel thread.

Instead this is a which should I get? Money doesn't matter, but I only want from these choises.

I use my computer for gaming, [achem] DVD ripping [/achem], and Windows stuff. Which is better for me?

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FatBurger

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I'd go for the P4, but there are valid arguments on both sides. Do you do more gaming or DVD ripping? The Athlon XP would be better at games, but the P4 at DVD stuff.

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if you dont overclock and you use a varity of applications the Athlon XP 1800 tends to outpreform the Pentium 4 1.8Ghz on commanly used benchmarked sutes.
I think with DivX 5 this applys to DVD ripping - THG showed that an Athlon XP 2000 outprformed a Pentium 4 2Ghz by a small margin.

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Both are good, but I'd personally go with the XP. It's cheaper and IMO will outperform the P4.

If money doesn't matter, then why are you limiting yourself to these 2 processors? Why not get a top-of-the-line P4 (2.4) or XP (2100)? Or wait a little while until the AMD Thoroughbred comes out?

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eden

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1.8A if you plan to overclock to 2.4GHZ like FatBurger.
XP1800+ if you don't plan to OC but want excellent performance with low price.

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If you do not plan on overclocking the 1800+ is faster, period.


That is all you need to decide.


Overclock=yes > p4
Stock=yes Amd


PERIOD.

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Kanaz

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Price only doesn't matter because I'm getting through my work, but my boss (AKA, my dad) limits me on what he ccan give for free.

To make sure, you all know I'm talking abot the 1.8 Northwood right? I read here that the Athlon 1800+ beat out the 1.8 normal, but I couldn't find a Northwood compairison.

I <i>do</i> know that the Intel is better for ripping. But I don't think I could possibly tell the differnce in a game between the two, no matter what the benchmarks say.

I have never overclocked before, but <i>if</i> I did with the Intel I would.

I mostly play low-graphic games, then Windows stuff, then High-graphic gaming, then ripping (though at times I do rip several things in a row, takes 3.5 hours currently each).

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The 1800+ will beat the northwood1800(rdram) by about 3-5%, but will cost signifigantly less.

Were you to compare $ for $ the 1.8northwood would get you a 2000+ axp, which would seriously outperform the 1.8.

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But if he o/ced it to 2.2GHz or more, he could easily get it past XP2000+ levels. Also you should probably get a 1.6A GHz. They cost less, but you can o/c them to just about the same speeds as a 1.8A.
 

eden

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Would be rather pointless, as the 1800+ is still less than a 1.6A, and even with that OC, the XP1800+ is far more performing.

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FatBurger

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Right, we all know a 1.53GHz Athlon XP can easily beat a P4 @ 2.2GHz.

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eden

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No no, I meant when he said to get the 1.6A to 1.8A safely!
I would only say such for the XP2100!

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FatBurger, 11.5*150= approx 1.73GHz so it's AXP 2100+. Just raise the voltage to 1.85V and you should be able to get to that speed but at a 150MHz FSB. So therefore, an overclocked AXP1800+ should outperform a 2.2GHz P4.

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Matisaro

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The 2.2ghz p4 is on a 133fsb, therefore it would be slightly ahead of the amd chip.(actually, the amd would be at 150 as well, so it would probably be either tied or very close)


Still, you would get close to or equal performance for less cash with the amd route.




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FatBurger

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A 1.6A on 133 would actually be 2.133. But why stop there? 50% is relatively easy, and a 2.4 P4 running at 150MHz even with 3/4 speed RAM would be ahead of the 1800+ at a good OC.

(On my system at least, a 155 FSB with 3/4 speed RAM gives the same Sandra RAM results as 133 with full speed RAM)

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