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l3um   04-26-2002 at 12:47:23 AM

From the roadmap in Tom's new article it looks like notebooks are going to get a major upgrade this year! AMD will finally be able to compete in the mobile market with their own version of a mobile Clawhammer. This is another great chance for AMD to compete with Intel. Now if only AMD would make a deal with nVidia for mobile graphics cards.

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Kemche   04-26-2002 at 12:52:59 AM
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AMD may have processors for desktop that are competing with Intel's processors. But I don't know of any processor that are as good as Intel's for Mobile platform. Intel's northwood runs so cool that some mfgr are using desktop processor for mobile platform. I don't think you can say that for AMD's processor. This may change when T-bred and Hammer is released.

KG

<b>"Hey! It compiles! Ship it!"</b>

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Matisaro   04-26-2002 at 02:21:55 AM
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AMD may have processors for desktop that are competing with Intel's processors. But I don't know of any processor that are as good as Intel's for Mobile platform. Intel's northwood runs so cool that some mfgr are using desktop processor for mobile platform. I don't think you can say that for AMD's processor. This may change when T-bred and Hammer is released.



Actually I have read that the laptop makers think the mobile p4 is too powerhungry, most laptops with intel chips have mobile p3's in them.

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FatBurger   04-26-2002 at 05:32:25 AM
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You never did give me the names of any laptop manufacturers that do that last time I asked.

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74merc   04-26-2002 at 06:33:02 AM
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the temp has nothing to do with it. its 4x the $$ for the mobile chip that makes the difference.
The 1.6 and 1.7Ghz P4 M are damn close to the thermal limit of desktop replacement laptops RIGHT NOW.
With Intel dropping the Tualatin, AMD chips always have crappy accesories, the mobile front isn't lookin to hot right now.
I'd probably get a P4 laptop myself, but it isn't a monster by any means... P4 M 1.7 is on par with the PIII M 1.2 in most apps... 1.2 runs cooler, less power, etc...
the final word in my decision comes down to the vid card, the best mobile video cards are attached to the P4 M laptops.

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FUGGER   04-26-2002 at 08:52:03 AM
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<A HREF="http://www.netlux.com/" target="_new">Netlux</A> is one company that makes P4 laptops.

This is actually a "<A HREF="http://www.mitac.com" target="_new">Mitac</A>" built machine. Mitac builds for many laptop resellers.

You are limited to what your mind can perceive.

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FatBurger   04-26-2002 at 06:41:46 PM
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Thank you. Not exactly a major share of the market, though.

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varlo   04-26-2002 at 06:59:14 PM
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The Aspire series from Acer uses the Desktop P4A cpus .
<A HREF="http://www.acer.ca/APP/AKC/INTERNET/Canada.nsf/allDocs/RWPA1D4D17CB5EE07DF88256B8A005D824E?OpenDocument" target="_new">http://www.acer.ca/APP/AKC/INTERNET/Canada.nsf/allDocs/RWPA1D4D17CB5EE07DF88256B8A005D824E?OpenDocument</A>


The faster a computer is, the faster it will reach a crashed state :eek:

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varlo   04-26-2002 at 07:02:44 PM
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Look at the 630 serie and you'll se that they specify that they use the Mobile ones,whitch they don't for the Aspire...

<A HREF="http://www.acer.ca/APP/AKC/INTERNET/Canada.nsf/allDocs/RWP01D798CF7E7C0B5B88256B8A005DC471?OpenDocument" target="_new">http://www.acer.ca/APP/AKC/INTERNET/Canada.nsf/allDocs/RWP01D798CF7E7C0B5B88256B8A005DC471?OpenDocument</A>

The faster a computer is, the faster it will reach a crashed state :eek:

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FatBurger   04-26-2002 at 07:10:04 PM
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Also, I don't think there is a 2.4GHz mobile. Anyone know for sure? I'm too lazy to look it up right now.

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varlo   04-26-2002 at 07:26:34 PM
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I have yet to see one...



The faster a computer is, the faster it will reach a crashed state :eek:

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Kemche   04-26-2002 at 08:55:57 PM
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Thanks fugger, I didn't have time to look this up. I knew for sure that they exists.

To Others: Also my point wasn't that they exists, My point was that they run so cool that they are able to be included in the mobile platform.

KG.

<b>"Hey! It compiles! Ship it!"</b><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by kemche on 04/26/02 02:56 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

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Kemche   04-26-2002 at 08:57:25 PM
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Please provide links to who think that mobile P4's are too powerhungry?

KG

<b>"Hey! It compiles! Ship it!"</b>

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l3um   04-28-2002 at 09:09:35 AM
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Alienware has a 2.4 in their new laptop, but I'm not sure if its a M version. I really doubt it. Highest I've seen is 1.7ghz.

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AtolSammeek   04-28-2002 at 12:41:38 PM
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dont waste your time with fugger. He Lied a few times he will again. the dumb moron as he is.

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Skull_Angel   04-28-2002 at 03:12:09 PM
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While AMD makes a competitive mobile CPU, it's true what 74merc says. Manufacturers insist on crippling AMD based laptops with mediocre at best mobile graphics solutions. I'll probably buy a P4 based laptop if this doesn't change in a few weeks. Or maybe a PIII with an ATI 7500 mobile Radeon. I wonder about not having DDR system ram though. Is the extra performance of DDR worth the price of a mobile P4? Anyone?

How hot does the newer desktop P4 Cpu run anyways?

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AMD_Man   04-28-2002 at 03:24:40 PM
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Intel doesn't have P4m processors higher than 1.7GHz, I believe. The 2.4GHz P4 we see are desktop P4s.

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Chuck232   04-28-2002 at 03:26:49 PM
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On the topic of notebooks, can anyone tell me what this "revolutionary" Banias chip from Intel is supposed to do. Like does it cook you a meal everytime you sit down at the comp or something? I've read many an article about it, but I've yet to see anything amazing about it. Perhaps someone with more knowledge would explain a bit. Thanks.

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Skull_Angel   04-28-2002 at 04:28:02 PM
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I read a blurb on the Banias in Maximum PC. Basically if I remember correctly Banias will be able to shut down entire segments of the CPU based on what you are using your Laptop for at the time. Supposedly, this will have more power savings than speedstep or AMD's powersaving scheme allowing much longer battery-life

I found a link...

http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cac [...] +CPU&hl=en

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