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Upcoming 533 MHz FSB - Conflicting Information

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April 29, 2002 3:05:45 PM

I've posted a similar message like this at another forum and I'm getting conflicting information. Some say that a BIOS upgrade will allow you to upgrade current 400 Mhz FSB Intel boards to the upcoming 533MHz FSB ..... others say that is ludicrous and Intel will force you to buy a new board with the i850E chipset. By the same token I've noticed that DELL is providing BIOS upgrades that say "support for future processor ... up to 4GHz". Who is right ??????????????????
April 29, 2002 3:23:18 PM

From what I understand, there will be two versions of "PC1066". One will be called PC1066 and simply be a higher clocked version of what we now have. This upgrade will most likely require a BIOS flash at the most.

The other version is RIMM4200 (unsure of what the release name will actually be), and will be single-channel 32-bit modules providing the same amount of bandwidth.

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April 29, 2002 4:26:21 PM

Hmm, any word on latency? One would think RIMM4200 has better latency than PC1066?

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April 29, 2002 4:39:13 PM

Why would you say that? One of the reasons for dual-channel in the first place was that it decreases latency.

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April 29, 2002 4:42:42 PM

Hmm, I don't know, but I would still like to see a latency comparison between the two.

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April 29, 2002 4:54:25 PM

Me too

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April 29, 2002 5:09:13 PM

Currently only boards that support overclocking will support the 533 bus, OEM boards such as Intel's will not, until the release of the i850E versions.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?
April 29, 2002 6:03:48 PM

So can you run PC800 RDRAM with 533 MHz FSB CPU ?
April 29, 2002 8:05:49 PM

Yes, the ABit TH7-II supports that.

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April 29, 2002 8:35:46 PM

My guess is that the PC1066 chip will have a higher latency than a RIMM4200 chip, but dual channels for PC1066 will make up for it and excede it.

Depends on how they engeneered the RIMM4200 though. If it's simply 2 16-Bit RIMMs effectively pasted togeather onto one chip, they it will effectively have the same performance.

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April 30, 2002 1:02:53 AM

Bront has it right: for the time being, RIMM4200 modules are essentially 2 single-sided RIMMs back to back. They are not "single-channel" 32bit they are dual-channel 16bit packaged onto a single 32bit RIMM. Yes, we could argue the sematics of dual or single channel, but the chips or "devices" are 16bit and are identical to the devices on the 16bit modules. The latency of one 32bit module, therefore, will be identical to installing 2 16bit RIMMs with the same chips.

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April 30, 2002 1:06:08 AM

Would be interesting if it was possible to Dual Channel those RIMMS with another stick, 8.4GB/sec of bandwidth, nice.

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April 30, 2002 3:37:28 AM

Half of which would be unused, but it would be nice to say I had 8.4GB/s of bandwidth :cool:

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April 30, 2002 4:47:35 AM

Hmm... since latency increases with the addition of more RAM in a RDRAM system, wouldn't having only half the RIMMs reduce latency by about the same about that a dual-channel would have? Just conjecture on my part, really.

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