New breed of celeron

What ll be intel's next low end processor.when the much anticipitated 533fsb p4 hits the market.Anyone has a clue.will it be celeron using tulatin core or a cut down version of p4 with less cache.

It will probably use SDRAM to cheapen it up further on, they might strip some components too, or worse, some BUS speed. Therefore a Celly P4, is already worse than any Celly out there. A Tually is still better, and a Duron still kicks both systems out for an even lower price. Don't bother with Celerons really, unless you want to overclock Tually Cellys, which OC very well.

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Hmm, a 1.8GHz Celeron is probably going to be no faster than a 933MHz P3.

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Wish I could give you a link on this but I only have this on paper,the new Celly pross will be a P4 Welly core whit 128K L2 cache built on the .18u process ,the key factor for the new Celly will be the price,they are supposed to go at a lower price than the Duron on a 1hz for 1hz basis.

They will also be a new chipset for the Celly by Intel whit all-on-board that will be call 845GL,the new Cely 1.4Ghz will sell for around ESP 125$ Can (+/-90$ US).

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Forgot to mension the 845GL is a DDR chipset...just to let you know

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So? Some P4s are cheeper than some Athlons on a 1hz for 1hz basis. Doesn't make them a better value straight out of the box.

You can't compair the arcitectures on a hz to hz basis. Besides, Duron will be dead by 2003 anyway.

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I really don't understand Intel's thinking these days. Them coming out with like 50 different chipsets confusing everyone. (in everyone I mean average person) Intel's pretty tricky with their marketing, kinda smart too, is gonna make themselves miserable when more and more of 'us' become more informed about computers and so forth. Coming off of the tuallies, and going to the willy with 128K of cache is like running aquanox on VGA drivers. (exaggeration there) It's gonna suck and this die wil probably be tiny like 40mm^2. Hope they'll replace some of the stuff when they move to NW celeys.

Welcome to Intel's budget world. Ever since the era of the P3, the Celerons have just plain sucked.

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Probably meant for Celly, PIII, P4, XP etc.

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XP? Why would Intel release an Athlon chipset?

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Somewhat good news, but a year for a 128k Willamette is one year too long.

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No, I meant like the i845G, GL, GLL, MD or whatever I'll try and find the site where I saw this.

Well, I looked around and here's what I found:

Here at the bottom:
<A HREF="http://www.theinquirer.net/01050219.htm" target="_new">http://www.theinquirer.net/01050219.htm</A>

and here:
<A HREF="http://www.theinquirer.net/01050218.htm" target="_new">http://www.theinquirer.net/01050218.htm</A>
This is the one I was talking about. Like look at the chipsets: D850EMV2, 845EBG2, D845GBV, D845GRG, D845GLAD, and it keeps on going.

These chipsets are yet to be released, but when I first read this, I was blown away. If number of chipsets represented the strength of a company, AMD would be non-existant by now. j/k

Ahh...I see what you mean. Coming out with 50 chipsets as in planning to release 50 chipsets. I thought you meant Intel had come out with 50 chipsets already. Thanks for the article though, hadn't seen it before.

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news of the 128k cellery has been aroudn for a while now, just not very common.

and boy is it gonna SUCK!
gonna be hot (0.18) and slow (128k)
2 outta 2 LOL


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yep... i think its conclusive that its gonna suck.
the only nit picking is the fine detail of "how much?"

mate it with a DDR chipset like the new and more efficient 845G and it may not be too bad.
but with sdram its gonna suck like a toothless whore. (pardon the expression)

and with sdram will it be able to beat the cellery 1.3 or 1.4?


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i dont know about you but the CPU's arent that expansive right now, its not like the top model costs 1000$US, back on those days we had to have some cheap ass solution for that yet now they all sell relatively low.
i dont see a need for a celly.

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Seems that way.





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The new Celerons will be quite cheap since they are maufactured on old technology, (.18um process still) they are an extremely beat up, castrated Willy P4 core that will be quite small I'll guess since a lot of features wont be included. This should all help to make a chip that will conform to many peoples' tastes which are, if I may repeat myself, adequate for their needs (net surfing mostly), will cost dirt cheap, and will sound nice when they tell their neighbors they got a new comp.

The new Celerons will fit those perameters almost perfectly and why would anyone complain if it is adequate for your needs and is cheap? Even though benchmarks may show that it is slower than even a 1.3GHz Celeron, from now, it wont matter because it'll still be adequate and it'll sound faster. 1.8 vs. 1.3 hmmm.....

So my point is not that people wont buy the more expensive P4s, it's that many will find the new Celerons perfect for their needs and that AMD doesn't have something that can compete with it at a MHz level. Not even at a PR rating level, since the Durons will be gone.

P.S. Intel wont make these chips cheaper than the current Celerons. They'll be a slight bit cheaper so that they will make more money, but to a "moron" they'll think that 1.8 is always better than 1.3, so the extra $10 will have been worth it. By the way, PIII's are quite expensive. Intel's trying to migrate the user to the P4's and they are slowly fading the P3's away.

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