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BuGaLoU   05-07-2002 at 03:07:30 PM

Well its almost time to upgrade my box again.
I am looking hard at an Intel p4 setup.

Problem is the last Intel system I built was a p3 way back when. (Ran a tbird, and have an XP now) I really not sure whats a good mobo to snag. As far as the processor, I am thinking about getting the 1.6a, or 1.8a and overclocking it to 2.4ish. I am unsure if I should get a DDR or Rambus solution. Also I assume thier are good overclocking boards out their that have high dividers to keep the PCI bus in spec when FSB overclocking. Price is not so much a concern, but I don't want to throw my money away either (Like getting a 2.4 p4 when you can OC a 1.8 cheaper) Sorry if I sound like a newb, but I am as far as a p4 system goes :smile:

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dttdar   05-07-2002 at 03:23:53 PM
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You're thinking in the right direction by getting a 1.6a or 1.8a. Always get RDRAM because that's what the P4 was designed for and that's what it works best with. Add those to a Abit TH7-II and you'll have a nice setup. The TH7-II allows you to lock the pci/agp bus for when you're overclocking.

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AMD_Man   05-07-2002 at 05:41:54 PM
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The SiS 645DX with DDR333 is faster than PC800 RDRAM. Get yourself some Samsung DDR RAM and with a bit of overvolting, you'll reach performance that RDRAM can't even dream of.

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FatBurger   05-07-2002 at 06:57:45 PM
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The SiS 645DX with DDR333 is faster than PC800 RDRAM.



The i850 is faster at stock speeds and when both are overclocked. Don't tell me you're comparing an overclocked system against a stock system.

Get the TH7II and Samsung PC800, as mentioned above.

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bob18   05-07-2002 at 07:36:54 PM
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The i850 is faster at stock speeds and when both are overclocked.
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Have a <A HREF="http://www.tech-report.com/reviews/2002q2/pentium4-2.53/index.x?pg=2" target="_new"> look here</A> they aren't even using the latest chipset from SiS but still it seems to me that DDR is on pair with a equal clocked P4 on rdram with 533MHZ FSB. (wins some benches and looses some, all within a small margain, except for maybe one or two benches).

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FatBurger   05-07-2002 at 08:00:12 PM
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You ready for extremely hard to follow graphs? They've got good information, though.

Head over to Ace's Hardware for <A HREF="http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=45000300" target="_new">this article</A>. I trust Ace's more than any other site for their benchmarks. They show the i850 narrowly beating the other P4 platforms, and when it hits PC1066 and above, it screams.

It's worthwhile to note that the Northwood helps the DDR platforms more than the RDRAM platforms.

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bront   05-07-2002 at 08:19:28 PM
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Untill Dual DDR ram solutions, the P4 will be best with RDRAM. The P4 needs the memory throughput.

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bob18   05-07-2002 at 08:53:30 PM
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Ok i skimmed through the article, from what i can see the sis645 ddr 2700 performs on pair with 850 pc800 and thats not even with the fastest cas timing for ddr. They are using cas2.5


<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by bob18 on 05/07/02 05:30 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

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AMD_Man   05-07-2002 at 09:36:01 PM
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The SiS 645DX is faster than the i850 at stock speeds and slightly slower when overclocked.

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AMD_Man   05-07-2002 at 09:36:02 PM
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The SiS 645DX is faster than the i850 at stock speeds and slightly slower when overclocked.

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FatBurger   05-07-2002 at 11:10:24 PM
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Maybe a need another cup of coffe i dont know :)



Hey, no fair using my excuse :mad:

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bob18   05-07-2002 at 11:29:35 PM
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Fatburger I'm sorry i use it myself and ididn't mean it sarcastic towards you at all! I'm a newbie poster on this forum so i haven't read evrybodys posts.

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BuGaLoU   05-08-2002 at 12:36:08 AM
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Thanks for the help guys.

Any brand boards in particular I should look at?
Also would I be better off getting a 1.8 or 1.6? I want to OC to around 2.4 . The fifty or so dollars difference is nominal if I can gain a more overclockability. Whats the farthest you all have raised your FSB up to (stabily), and at what voltage?

Thanks Again

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FatBurger   05-08-2002 at 12:40:40 AM
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I'm just joking, you don't need to take it personally :tongue:

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FatBurger   05-08-2002 at 12:42:33 AM
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I run my 1.6A on a 155 FSB @ 1.85v with the stock heatsink. TH7II-RAID and Samsung PC800.

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bob18   05-08-2002 at 02:04:38 AM
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Its cool man :)

155FSB nice overclock!!

The box i work with is a Asus P4S333 1.8a @ 2.4 133FSB 1.65v stock HSF (I could crank up the FSB more but i need a better PSU then)

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Any brand boards in particular I should look at?
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I would consider TH7II-RAID, Asus P4B266-C, P4S533, P4S333, P4T533-C they are all good boards and there are more out there.

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Crashman   05-08-2002 at 05:43:32 AM
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Either will do 2.4, but the 1.8A will do 2.4 at 133FSB, easily accomplished with a TH7-II and Samsung PC800 at "1066".

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

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