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axp idles at 65degrees c!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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May 8, 2002 8:28:40 AM

any ideas why my temp is so high? wat can i do to bring itdown? i have a copper heatsink with 7000rpm fan. its an xp1800 btw

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May 8, 2002 8:38:01 AM

First off, is this causing any instabilities?

Second, you might want to list how many 80mm fans you have, how they're placed, exactly which HSF you have, and what kind of case you have.

Start by tucking away all cables. Rubberband them together and tuck them away. Make sure you have a fan in the front/bottom of your case sucking cold air in, and a fan in the back/top blowing hot air out.

Also, make sure the reading you're giving us is from motherboard monitor. That's the most accurate reading.

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May 8, 2002 8:41:00 AM

Take a look in your bios and tell us what that temp is. Is it locking up stop running? If not dont worrie about it. Another Idea is look in the case see if it needs to be clean out. You migh have a alot of dust. I know when I ran the Fire box to heat the home. 3 months did it in. Going up to 70 to 75c. Clean the dust out with compresser/air filter. Drop my temp to 48 to 56c.
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May 8, 2002 8:50:14 AM

all cables are tie wrapped. i blown all the dust away with air can when i installed the axp. its a thermaltake dragon orb 3. 80mm fan at back and 80mm fan at front. front 1 sucking back 1 blowing. the temp is from the bios. i got a gigabyte GA-7DXR+ and i get occasional lock ups. although that mite be the ram as i have just put in a extra 256mb of hynix ddr2100 which im getting bad vibes about...
oh yea and i also tried reducing core voltage from 1.75V to 1.7V that got my temp down to 60 but still with occassional lockups

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May 8, 2002 9:15:24 AM

If you have two differnt ram can make problems. Where is your computer located In the room. This is why My system runs almost as hot as yours Its in the closet. Its not the best place in the house but it the only place I can put it. See I notice Mine blows out the heat then blows it back in. So it not good I have a large ceiling Fan blowing down which drops the computer temp 58c to 50c. A idea why dont you try to change your fans around. See if you can get a better temp.
May 8, 2002 9:45:51 AM

my comp is siiting in the open. also i tried it with the case off and a desk fan blowing in the side and that dropped it to bout 55-60. im going to clean up the hsf and proc tonite and reapply the thermal compound. if that dont work im guessing i got a dodgy proc?

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May 8, 2002 10:13:56 AM

No, it's not a bad processor. You'll just have to work more on airflow. Get some insence and see where the smoke goes. This is kinda tough with normal cases, but you can try. Also, do you have a good case that at least appears to promote good airflow? If you don't, you will have to add more fans.

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May 8, 2002 10:23:42 AM

Try to run with one DDR module you trust. If even with open case you still have instability problems, maybe it is a good idea to change the CPU. The problem is not the temp, because it could be a bad sensor calibration, the problem is your system is not stable. And if without overclocking and good airflow is not running ok, just change for a new one (I suppose the CPU is still under garanty).

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May 8, 2002 10:34:17 AM

the proc is oem.. it carried a 30 day supplier warranty and ive had it 4 more than 30days now :frown:
also i do a lot video encoding and processor intensive stuff.. i need to get the idle temps down a bit before i start maxing out the proc otherwise i can imagine the temps hitting 70-75 which i would imagine isnt too healthy for an axp. anyway im cleaning off the thermal compound and reapplying some fresh tonite. ill see if that makes a difference before i start playing with the ram

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May 8, 2002 10:42:02 AM

maybe the heatsink isnt seated properly?
maybe the heatsink is dirty?
dont apply too much thermal grease.
i hope you can figure this out.
because that seems a tad high for your setup.


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May 8, 2002 11:16:18 AM

ive built 7 athlon/duron systems. 5 k6-2/3 systems. a p166.
a PPro200. trust me the hsf is clean and seated correctly. all the fans and the case are clean and free of dust

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May 8, 2002 11:46:43 AM

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No, it's not a bad processor. You'll just have to work more on airflow. Get some insence and see where the smoke goes. This is kinda tough with normal cases, but you can try. Also, do you have a good case that at least appears to promote good airflow? If you don't, you will have to add more fans.


Lol, dh taking the side off to see the smoke [-peep-] up the whole point of the airflow.

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May 8, 2002 11:48:02 AM

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ive built 7 athlon/duron systems. 5 k6-2/3 systems. a p166.
a PPro200. trust me the hsf is clean and seated correctly. all the fans and the case are clean and free of dust


Those temps are too high for a dragon orb which is working properly, but it is not the cpu thats the issue, something is wrong with the hsf(be it airflow or whatnot).

Your cpu being "dodgy" is not a causal factor.

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May 8, 2002 7:01:18 PM

Whats the room temp? Of course aircooling can only go so low depending on the ambient air temperature. Hot part of the world? No AC??
May 9, 2002 3:13:34 AM

here is a novel idea...
how about u try ruling out some other things like ram or the video card.

also. what are u using to monitor the temps with?



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May 9, 2002 9:11:27 AM

:tongue:
i tried that. 2 different ddr modules
a geforce3, geforce2 mx, voodoo3 3000
i reseated the hsf last nite but its still no better.
im using motherboard monitor 5 to monitior the temps.
if i set it too 133mhz fsb it WILL NOT run stable. half the time it freeezes before it gets to windows and if does boot properly it will freeze within 5mins but it is 100% stable with 100fsb. ive flashed the bios and now ive run out of ideas......... HELP!!!

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May 9, 2002 9:20:38 AM

Even if it is OEM, maybe they will agree to change for another one (4 or 5 days is not too much time ... I hope). Also if you have bought several times (equals good costumer) they will be more willing to make a deal. I am sure they can say your CPU is one that was selled a week after, just changing the costumer name or something like this. Try to make an agreement. What is happening to you is not fair. (If I am not wrong you haven't even overclock it, rigut?)

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May 9, 2002 10:23:59 AM

Here a idea. I know with my system after playing a game that area is Warm. Or I m sweating. Due to the cpu hitting around 60c. the case is about 1 and 1/2 foot away. If you can feel the heat come off of it. that one way of telling its runs hot.
May 9, 2002 10:29:43 AM

erm i know its hot cos the bios reading and the motherboard monitor both say it is hot. dont need to feel heat radiating off of it to know.


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May 9, 2002 11:25:35 AM

okies...
a number of brands and revisions of motherboards DO NOT run stable at 133 for some reason (they are crap?)
but i want to absolutely rule out poor ram.

find download and run the following program
MEMTEST86
will rule out memory problems hopefully.

put simply, your CPU should run fine at stock speeds, even with the somewhat average dragon orb. if it doesnt the prob lies elsewhere.

p.s. just outta intrest, whats the room & mobo temp when your runnigng?

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May 9, 2002 1:27:37 PM

ok im running on a gigabyte ga7dxr+ case temp is about 30
ive already checked both ram modules using norton systemworks.
btw i live in england so a typical day is cold wet and windy at the moment :tongue:

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May 10, 2002 12:43:12 AM

hmmmm ok

well i would have to say then that the dragon orb, while the best of the orbs, cant cut it cooling your CPU. not terribly suprised though.

do u know what the orb is rated for?

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May 10, 2002 8:13:00 AM

hey guys thanx for all your help...
i figured it out last nite...
not sure if i should say though as its kinda embarasing! :redface:
anyway it idles at 35 now and full load is 47-48

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May 10, 2002 9:28:57 AM

dont be embarrassed...everyone makes dumb mistakes...lol...
what was it? :smile:

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May 10, 2002 9:38:12 AM

i was going to say that it was a thermal pad still on the base of the heatsink, with the plastic strip still installed on it...because that would make sense...for those temps...
or something was setup wrong...and reading the temps weird.

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May 10, 2002 9:39:54 AM

oh, and glad to hear you got it ironed out...
great feeling to know everything is ok isnt it?
i have had a few "incidences" that i could post here, but probably wont...but maybe one day...lol...start an embarrassing moment thread...lol

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May 10, 2002 10:35:26 AM

no i didnt leave the plastic sticker thing on the thermal pad... it wasnt THAT stupid :)  anyway im using an industrial thermal compound which is slightly better than arctic aluminium but not as good as arctic silver.

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May 10, 2002 10:46:50 AM

i can overclock it now see how far i can take it. anyone know what sort of speed i should be able to hit?

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May 10, 2002 11:50:39 AM

Have you tried a different HSF?

When I built my nephew's maching, an AXP 1800+, I used only the stock HSF that came in the bubble pack (which, I hate, too hard to get the proc out of it).

The system is in a Antec 1030 case with only the fan on the HSF and the one fan on the PSU. I shut off the fans on the rear of the case for noise reasons and there is not intake fan. At idle, the chip hit a max of 48C, so I would try changing the HSF if a stock HSF can cool the chip cooler than 60

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May 10, 2002 11:53:21 AM

Damn THGC, won't let me delete my post above

PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN. oh, and don't bother reading the above post either, I posted it before I got down to the part where you resolved the issue.

D'oh

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May 10, 2002 2:27:25 PM

ah come on, you gotta tell what it was!

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May 10, 2002 2:28:33 PM

hehe... :smile:

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May 10, 2002 3:08:20 PM

maybe ill tell later when the shame has worn off a bit :redface:
but if anyone can guess ill tell u if u get it right :tongue:

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May 10, 2002 3:18:38 PM

too much thermal grease?
heatsink's fan not plugged into a power source? :wink:
i think the second is my vote for the most likely. :smile:

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May 10, 2002 10:44:09 PM

I did the plastic thing once, but it was because the first one didn't have any plastic, but wouldn't install because of a capacitor in the way, and so I forgot on the second HSF.

I think it was upside down, with the fan touching the proccessor and the core was keeping the fan from spinning. Am I close? :) 
May 11, 2002 1:09:27 PM

wrong....

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May 11, 2002 1:10:11 PM

hehe very wrong :lol: 

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May 11, 2002 3:26:04 PM

ok only thing it could be..
You put the HSF on backwards..
Incorrectly mounting HSF doesn't put the HSF in the best place to cool the die.
May 11, 2002 8:18:44 PM

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May 13, 2002 3:23:52 PM

yep u got it it..
i had to mount it backwards originally on my duron cos the psu interfered with the clip (crappy cheap case) and when i upgraded to the axp i just put the hsf back on the same way without thinking D'OH! anyway i chopped the case a bit now so that it fits in easier. how did you knoe that? have u had similar experience?

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May 16, 2002 7:13:02 AM

happened once with a generic thermaltake orb HS/F. removing it made it extremly difficult. difficult enough i noticed it.

remember in the ss7 days when there was a notch in the hs/f and it went over top of the socket!?!?

now hs/f have gone high tech using heat spreaders, copper, and, alunimum to get a decent hs/f needed you have to look for ones that have been recommended. for the cpu.
May 16, 2002 7:41:11 AM

ahhh
a classic case where reading the instructions would ahve helped LOL

furtunate u didnt crack your core doing that then!

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May 17, 2002 1:41:52 PM

hehe i didnt crack the core but i did slip and stab the mobo with the screwdriver i was using to lever the clip on. D'OH! not a huge problem cos i repaired it but still inconvenient!

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May 18, 2002 2:31:40 AM

lucky you didnt completly kill your mobo then.
one decent scratch cutting 1 electrcal path can do it.

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May 20, 2002 8:54:41 AM

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lucky you didnt completly kill your mobo then.
one decent scratch cutting 1 electrcal path can do it.

heh i cut TWO tracks and gauged a nice little groove on the mobo. im an electronic technician so it wasnt too much hassle repairing it. just a bit fiddly.

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