Use Magic Device failures

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>When you fail to activate a wand with Use Magic Device, does it lose a
>charge or does it simply not activate? What if there is a mishap?
>
>I've looked through the UMD rules and I don't see an obvious answer.
>
>I guess I'd have to ask the same question about using UMD with scrolls.

Neither uses a charge: if you didn't make the roll, the item doesn't
"know" you are trying to use it.

Wands don't mishap. Scrolls do, but not if you use UMD and emulate a
caster level because if you roll too low, it was the UMD check you
failed: you can't "successfully" roll too low.

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ringofw@hotmail.com wrote in
news:1119305361.261152.145570@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

>>When you fail to activate a wand with Use Magic Device, does it
>>lose a charge or does it simply not activate? What if there is
>>a mishap?
>>
>>I've looked through the UMD rules and I don't see an obvious
>>answer.
>>
>>I guess I'd have to ask the same question about using UMD with
>>scrolls.
>
> Neither uses a charge: if you didn't make the roll, the item
> doesn't "know" you are trying to use it.
>
> Wands don't mishap.

Are you sure? Look at the picture of Lidda in the original 3.0 PHB

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On 21 Jun 2005 17:42:23 GMT, Quentin Stephens <stq@stq.gro.ku.invalid>
scribed into the ether:

>ringofw@hotmail.com wrote in
>news:1119305361.261152.145570@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>>>When you fail to activate a wand with Use Magic Device, does it
>>>lose a charge or does it simply not activate? What if there is
>>>a mishap?
>>>
>>>I've looked through the UMD rules and I don't see an obvious
>>>answer.
>>>
>>>I guess I'd have to ask the same question about using UMD with
>>>scrolls.
>>
>> Neither uses a charge: if you didn't make the roll, the item
>> doesn't "know" you are trying to use it.
>>
>> Wands don't mishap.
>
>Are you sure? Look at the picture of Lidda in the original 3.0 PHB

That just tells us what happens when you misuse a magical digereedoo(sp).

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On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:06:58 +0200, Jasin Zujovic <jzujovic@inet.hr>
scribed into the ether:

>In article <3hr2bbFhusf8U1@individual.net>,
>m.blundenATntlworld.com@address.invalid says...
>
>> >> Wands don't mishap.
>> >
>> > Are you sure? Look at the picture of Lidda in the original 3.0 PHB
>>
>> That's if you use "activate blindly". Clearly Lidda doesn't recognise a wand
>> when she sees it (or mistook it for something else).
>
>Heh, heh... that naughty Lidda!

It is supposed to be a PG rated book. Putting the scorch marks....there...
would shift the book into Elfbard territory.

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In article <oFbue.6061$up5.3767@lakeread02>, ranpoirier@cox.net says...

> >>>>>Wands don't mishap.
> >>>>
> >>>>Are you sure? Look at the picture of Lidda in the original 3.0 PHB
> >>>
> >>>That's if you use "activate blindly". Clearly Lidda doesn't recognise a wand
> >>>when she sees it (or mistook it for something else).
> >>
> >>Heh, heh... that naughty Lidda!
> >
> > It is supposed to be a PG rated book. Putting the scorch marks....there...
> > would shift the book into Elfbard territory.
>
> She may have thought it was a "Rod of Oral Gratification"...

She certainly has an appropriate experssion...


--
Jasin Zujovic
jzujovic@inet.hr

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Matt Frisch wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:09:06 -0400, Werebat <ranpoirier@cox.net> scribed
> into the ether:
>
>
>>
>>Matt Frisch wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:06:58 +0200, Jasin Zujovic <jzujovic@inet.hr>
>>>scribed into the ether:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>In article <3hr2bbFhusf8U1@individual.net>,
>>>>m.blundenATntlworld.com@address.invalid says...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>Wands don't mishap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Are you sure? Look at the picture of Lidda in the original 3.0 PHB
>>>>>
>>>>>That's if you use "activate blindly". Clearly Lidda doesn't recognise a wand
>>>>>when she sees it (or mistook it for something else).
>>>>
>>>>Heh, heh... that naughty Lidda!
>>>
>>>
>>>It is supposed to be a PG rated book. Putting the scorch marks....there...
>>>would shift the book into Elfbard territory.
>>
>>She may have thought it was a "Rod of Oral Gratification"...
>
>
> Well c'mon now, what's the point if the rod isn't attached to anything?

You have to remember that that picture was from BEFORE WotC came out
with the Warforged...

- Ron ^*^

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Matt Frisch wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 19:14:56 -0400, Werebat <ranpoirier@cox.net> scribed
> into the ether:
>
>
>>
>>Matt Frisch wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:09:06 -0400, Werebat <ranpoirier@cox.net> scribed
>>>into the ether:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Matt Frisch wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:06:58 +0200, Jasin Zujovic <jzujovic@inet.hr>
>>>>>scribed into the ether:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article <3hr2bbFhusf8U1@individual.net>,
>>>>>>m.blundenATntlworld.com@address.invalid says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Wands don't mishap.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Are you sure? Look at the picture of Lidda in the original 3.0 PHB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That's if you use "activate blindly". Clearly Lidda doesn't recognise a wand
>>>>>>>when she sees it (or mistook it for something else).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Heh, heh... that naughty Lidda!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>It is supposed to be a PG rated book. Putting the scorch marks....there...
>>>>>would shift the book into Elfbard territory.
>>>>
>>>>She may have thought it was a "Rod of Oral Gratification"...
>>>
>>>
>>>Well c'mon now, what's the point if the rod isn't attached to anything?
>>
>>You have to remember that that picture was from BEFORE WotC came out
>>with the Warforged...
>
>
> In which case, the picture might be interpretted as a critical success, not
> a critical failure.
>
> To quote Fry: I never thought I'd die like this, but I'd always hoped.

LOL, just watched that episode on DVD with the missus last week.

- Ron ^*^