St. Cuthbert

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I have a player running a cleric of St. Cuthbert and i was wondering if
anyone could direct me to any good resources (books, websites, etc) on
the diety.

So far i have found out that he was a minor diety in greyhawk, does
anyone know why he was made into a major power for 3e? Also turns out
that St. Cuthbert was a real person that Bede wrote a history on.
Anything involving his history, tenets, legends, stories, church
orgnization, prestige classes involving his clerics or paladins,
basically anything that would give me a good start with integrating
cuthbert into the campaign would be helpful.

thanks
 
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"ephemeralparadox@yahoo.com" <ephemeralparadox@yahoo.com> writes
>I have a player running a cleric of St. Cuthbert and i was wondering if
>anyone could direct me to any good resources (books, websites, etc) on
>the diety.
>
>So far i have found out that he was a minor diety in greyhawk, does
>anyone know why he was made into a major power for 3e?

Well, lesser deity... "Minor" is relative - he's all over the place, in
terms of GH sources and modules. It's a "vs. Iuz" thing - St C and he
ain't exactly pals.

>Also turns out
>that St. Cuthbert was a real person that Bede wrote a history on.

Don't mistake the two. I don't know if Gygax had the 7th-century guy in
mind when he thought up his GH deity - likely a little, in name at
least.

Anyway, this link goes through the St C of Venerable Bede fame:

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/basis/bede-cuthbert.html

>Anything involving his history, tenets, legends, stories, church
>orgnization, prestige classes involving his clerics or paladins,
>basically anything that would give me a good start with integrating
>cuthbert into the campaign would be helpful.

As I said, St C is all over the place in GH source. Some of the best
ones for him are:

* World of Greyhawk (1st Ed. box set) and/or From the Ashes (in essence,
the 2nd Ed. version of same, advancing GH history a tad)
* T1-4 Temple of Elemental Evil (has his 1st Ed. stats and info)
* The Adventure Begins (2nd Ed.)
* Living Greyhawk Gazetteer (3E main sourcebook for GH)
* Deities & Demigods (3E version; has his 3E stats)
* WGA2 Falconmaster (2nd Ed. module, with a description of St C's temple
in Greyhawk City - complete with fold-up cardboard model of same)

--
Ian R Malcomson
"Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box"
 
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Ian R Malcomson wrote:
> "ephemeralparadox@yahoo.com" <ephemeralparadox@yahoo.com> writes
>
>> I have a player running a cleric of St. Cuthbert and i was wondering if
>> anyone could direct me to any good resources (books, websites, etc) on
>> the diety.

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> * Deities & Demigods (3E version; has his 3E stats)

Bought to you by a complete disrepect for copyright law, here's


St. Cuthbert of the Cudgel
Intermediate Deity

Symbol: Ruby-studded starburst
Home Plane: Arcadia
Alignment: Lawful neutral
Portfolio:
Retribution, common sense, wisdom, zeal, honesty, truth, discipline
Worshipers: Fighters, monks, judges, constables
Cleric Alignments: LG, LN
Domains: Destruction, Law, Protection, Strength
Favored Weapon: Mace

The deity of retribution, St. Cuthbert (saint cuhth-burt), takes
many forms. He often masquerades as a common yokel or whitehaired,
mustached man in plate mail. He usually carries his famous mace.

[...]

Dogma
The words of St. Cuthbert are wise, practical, and sensible. Among
his followers, the Word of the Cudgel is law, and his followers take
pains to spread the word so that may all may benefit from St. Cuthbert’s
wisdom. Weakness in faith and acting against the Saint’s teachings are
intolerable, especially in believers. St. Cuthbert exhorts his followers
to make increasing efforts to bring unbelievers into the fold. Honesty,
truthfulness, practicality, and reasonability are the highest virtues,
says St. Cuthbert.

Clergy and Temples
Clerics of the Cudgel are stern folk who speak their minds plainly.
They do not suffer fools and disapprove of those who backslide in faith.
They train in the arts of war and keep themselves physically fit. Many
serve as constables, detectives, judges, and bounty hunters. Temples of
St. Cuthbert are always solid and imposing. Their entrances or facades
invariably feature inscriptions of quotations attributed to the Cudgel.
These can be inspirational, such as: "Chaos and evil prevail where good
folk do nothing." Or even threatening, such as: "Obstinacy brings lumps
to the heads of the unfaithful."



PS: He's in 3e core because they needed a generic LN deity, and so
they picked on the Cudgel. I guess he's the closest greyhawk had to a
major societal Lawful type god-dude.

His most recent write-up would be in Complete Divine, IIRC.

--
tussock

Aspie at work, sorry in advance.
 
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tussock wrote:

> PS: He's in 3e core because they needed a generic LN deity, and so
> they picked on the Cudgel. I guess he's the closest greyhawk had to a
> major societal Lawful type god-dude.

Also, I think BATTLEHYMN worships him.

- Ron ^*^
 
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Ian R Malcomson wrote:
> "ephemeralparadox@yahoo.com" <ephemeralparadox@yahoo.com> writes
>
>> I have a player running a cleric of St. Cuthbert and i was wondering if
>> anyone could direct me to any good resources (books, websites, etc) on
>> the diety.
>>
>> So far i have found out that he was a minor diety in greyhawk, does
>> anyone know why he was made into a major power for 3e?
>
>
> Well, lesser deity... "Minor" is relative - he's all over the place, in
> terms of GH sources and modules. It's a "vs. Iuz" thing - St C and he
> ain't exactly pals.
>
>> Also turns out
>> that St. Cuthbert was a real person that Bede wrote a history on.
>
>
> Don't mistake the two. I don't know if Gygax had the 7th-century guy in
> mind when he thought up his GH deity - likely a little, in name at least.
>
> Anyway, this link goes through the St C of Venerable Bede fame:
>
> http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/basis/bede-cuthbert.html
>

Note that, among his other miracles, St. Cuthbert was renowned for
curing diarrhea:

CHAPTER XXXVIII
HOW, DURING HIS ILLNESS, HE CURED ONE OF NIS ATTENDANTS OF A DIARRHEA
" His malady now began to grow upon him, and we thought that the time of
his dissolution was at hand. He bade his attendants carry him to his
cell and oratory. It was the third hour of the day. We therefore carried
him thither, for he was too feeble to walk himself. When we reached the
door, we asked him to let one of us go in with him, to wait upon him;
for no one had ever entered therein but himself. He cast his eyes round
on all, and, fixing them on the sick brother above mentioned, said, '
Walstod shall go in with me.' Now Walstod was the man's name. He went in
accordingly, and stayed till the ninth hour: when he came out, and said
to me, ' The bishop wishes you to go in unto him; but I have a most
wonderful thing to tell you: from the moment of my touching the bishop,
when I supported him into the oratory, I have been entirely free from my
old complaint. ' No doubt this was brought about by the effect of his
heavenly piety, that, whereas in his time of health and strength he had
healed many, he should now heal this man, when he was himself at the
point of death, that so there might be a standing proof how strong the
holy man was in spirit, though his body was at the lowest degree of
weakness. In this cure he followed the example of the holy and reverend
father and bishop, Aurelius Augustine, who, when weighed down by the
illness of which he died, and lying on his couch, was entreated by a man
to lay his hand on a sick person whom he had brought to him, that so he
might be made well. To which Augustine replied, ' If I had such power, I
should first have practised it towards myself.' The sick man answered, '
I have been commanded to come to you: for some one said to me in a
dream, Go to Bishop Augustine, and let him place his hand upon you, and
you shall be well.' On hearing this, Augustine placed his hand upon him,
gave him his blessing, and sent him home perfectly recovered."