People keep sending me this list. Every time I read it, I get annoyed. Not because so many did not serve, but because they are so willing to just send others to do the work that they themselves did not do. While I am sure there are many Republicans who did serve at least as honorably as the Democrats on this list, the leadership names are particularly disheartening. I also removed several names I felt were not relevant, such as Clarence Thomas, Antonin Scalia and Kenneth Starr. I also moved McCain and Rumsfeld to the top, as they were buried in the middle of the original . I also eliminated some gratuitous remarks that I felt were unnecessary to make the point. I would be interested in seeing a comparable list, in reverse, if anyone has one.
Democrats:
* Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71.
* David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72.
* Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72.
* Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade.
* Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam.
* Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII.
* John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, Purple Hearts.
* Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea.
* Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star & Bronze Star, Vietnam.
Paraplegic from war injuries. Served in Congress.
* Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53.
* Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74.
* Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-1979; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91.
* Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII; Bronze Star and seven campaign ribbons.
* Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze Stars, and Soldier's Medal.
* Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and Legion of Merit.
* Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart.
* Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze Star with Combat V.
* Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star.
* Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57
* Chuck Robb: Vietnam
* Howell Heflin: Silver Star
* George McGovern: Silver Star & DFC during WWII.
* Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments. Entered draft but received #311.
* Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy.
* Walter Mondale: Army 1951-1953
* John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and AirMedal with 18 Clusters.
* Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul Wallenberg.
Republicans - and these are the guys sending people to war:
* Dick Cheney: did not serve. Several deferments, the last by marriage.
* John McCain: Vietnam POW, Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross.
* Don Rumsfeld: served in Navy (1954-57) as flight instructor.
* Dennis Hastert: did not serve.
* Tom Delay: did not serve.
* Roy Blunt: did not serve.
* Bill Frist: did not serve.
* Mitch McConnell: did not serve.
* Rick Santorum: did not serve.
* Trent Lott: did not serve.
* John Ashcroft: did not serve. Seven deferments to teach business.
* Jeb Bush: did not serve.
* Karl Rove: did not serve.
* Saxby Chambliss: did not serve. "Bad knee." The man who attacked Max Cleland's patriotism.
* Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve.
* Vin Weber: did not serve.
* Richard Perle: did not serve.
* Douglas Feith: did not serve.
* Eliot Abrams: did not serve.
* Richard Shelby: did not serve.
* Jon Kyl: did not serve.
* Tim Hutchison: did not serve.
* Christopher Cox: did not serve.
* Newt Gingrich: did not serve.
* George W. Bush: (everyone knows the story here).
* Bob Dornan: Enlisted after fighting was over in Korea.
* Phil Gramm: did not serve.
* Dana Rohrabacher: did not serve.
* John M. McHugh: did not serve.
* JC Watts: did not serve.
* Jack Kemp: did not serve. "Knee problem, " although continued in NFL for 8 years as quarterback.
* Dan Quayle: Journalism unit of the Indiana National Guard.
* Rudy Giuliani: did not serve.
* George Pataki: did not serve.
* Spencer Abraham: did not serve.
* John Engler: did not serve.
* Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer.
Pundits & Preachers
* Sean Hannity: did not serve.
* Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.')
* Bill O'Reilly: did not serve.
* Michael Savage: did not serve.
* George Will: did not serve.
* Chris Matthews: did not serve.
* Paul Gigot: did not serve.
* Bill Bennett: did not serve.
* Pat Buchanan: did not serve.
* Bill Kristol: did not serve.
* Ralph Reed: did not serve.
* Michael Medved: did not serve.
* Charlie Daniels: did not serve.
* Ted Nugent: did not serve. (He only shoots at things that don't shoot back.)
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I looked up a few names on some of the people who didn't serve in Vietnam. Why? Deferred because they were in the government, House or Senate. That's already serving your country.
Colin Powel, wounded in action. He served.
Actually, I found the website that this stuff apparently originated from and it's biased.
Here is my only problem with this list, and i couldn't care less about dem/reb politics...
List all of the sen. Congress, Pres, VP, and what not together...
The list is composed of select people on both sides who fit the area they are going for.
One more thing i asked myself while reading it....Is it terrible that these people did't serve in the military? What about people who served in veitnam but didn't leave the country? are they any less important? How can we judge people for serving or not serving without looking at each case as a sinlge unit?
All this list says to me is this...
The only way you can be in favor of sending people to war is if you have served in the military in an important positions.
one last thing, i hate Bill O'Reily but he was being a public highschool teacher from the time he left college till he got into the politics of news. Is this list honestly saying that being a public highschool teacher is not good enough? That is the most offensive thing about this all. I want to be a highschool teacher, and i dont want later in life for someone to look down on me because i didn't go to war and i stayed home teaching.
Actually, being a teacher disqualified you from going to war. They're more important to teach our youth than to go to war.
Prime example: Saving Private Ryan.
Half the movie they have a bet on what Tom Hanks' career was before he was drafted.
During a conflict between two of his soldiers, he tells them his career. English teacher.
Everyone shut up. Why? Because teachers were not to be drafted. He was drafted, went anyhow.
No one ever seemed to pick that part out of the movie or know why it was such a big deal.
The list above was created by a Dem to bash Reps. It's sad, but also, when you're in the government, you don't have to go to war because you're already serving the country.
Besides, it's common for someone with no future to join the military because they can't go on to college or get a real job. With that statement we can safely assume democrats are uneducated and shouldn't be running this country!
I'm only joking about that statement, there needs to be balance.
The only way this is effective, and will get me to even look at it, is if it includes every congressman, cabinett member, and political leader out there and compares apples to apples.
This list is incomplete or includes people that shouldn't be on there. For example, why is Al Gore listed but not George Bush Sr, Collin Powell, or Dan Quale? Why is President Clinton on there but not President Reagan?
I refuse to entertain such a stupid list.
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Decided to do a little checking of the bios available on the senators. here is a list of all senators of the US and a notation of the ones who served in the military.
DANIEL K. AKAKA (D-HI) Military Service: World War II - U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (including service on Saipan and Tinian), 1945-47
Senator Lamar Alexander (R-TN)
Senator Wayne Allard (r-co)
Senator George Allen (R-VA)
Senator Max Baucus (D-MT)
Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)
Senator Bob Bennett (R-UT)
Joseph R. Biden, Jr. (D-DE)
Senator Jeff Bingaman (D-NM) Bingaman served in the Army Reserves from 1968 to 1974.
Christopher S. "Kit" Bond (R-MO)
Barbara Boxer (D-CA)
Sam Brownback (R-KS)
Jim Bunning (R-KY)
Conrad Burns (R-MT) Burns enlisted in the Marine Corps and was posted in East Asia.
Richard Burr (R-NC)
Robert Byrd (D-WV)
Maria Cantwell (D-WA)
Thomas Carper (D-DE) U.S. Navy. He went on to complete five years of service as a naval flight officer and continued to serve in the Naval Reserve until retiring from military service in 1991 with the rank of captain.
Lincoln Chaffee (R-RI)
Saxby Chambliss (R-GA)
Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
Tom Coburn (R-OK)
Thad Cochran (R-MS) in 1959, he was commissioned an Ensign in the U.S. Naval Reserve and assigned to duty aboard a heavy cruiser, the USS MACON
Norm Coleman (R-MN)
Susan Collins (R-ME)
Kent Conrad (D-NE)
John Cornyn (R-TX)
Jon Corzine (D-NJ) 1969 and enlisted in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserves. He remained in the reserves until 1975, rising to the rank of sergeant in his infantry unit.
Larry Craig (R-ID)
Michael Crapo (R-ID)
Mark Dayton (D-MN)
Jim DeMint (R-SC)
Mike DeWine (R-OH)
Christopher Dodd (D-CT) Dodd enlisted in the Army and served in the reserves.
Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)
Pete Domenici (R-NM)
Byron Dorgan (D-ND)
Richard Durbin (D-IL)
John Ensign (R-NV)
Michael Enzi (R-WY) Enzi also served his country in the Wyoming Air National Guard (1967-1973)
Russell Fiengold (D-WI)
Dianne Fienstien (D-CA)
Bill Frist (R-TN)
Lindsey Graham (R-SC) six-and-a-half years of service on active duty as an Air Force lawyer. Upon leaving the active duty Air Force in 1989, Graham joined the South Carolina Air National Guard where he served until his election to the U.S. House of Representatives in 1994.
Chuck Grassley (R-IA)
Judd Gregg (R-NH)
Chuck Hagel (R-NE) Hagel served in Vietnam with his brother Tom in 1968. They served side by side as infantry squad leaders with the U.S. Army’s 9th Infantry Division.
Tom Harkin (D-IA) Tom joined the Navy where he served as a jet pilot on active duty from 1962 to 1967 and afterwards continued to fly in the Naval Reserves.
Orrin Hatch (R-UT)
Kay Hutchison (R-TX)
Daniel Inouye (D-HI) enlisted in the U.S. Army's 442nd Regimental Combat Team
Johnny Isakson (R-GA) served in the Georgia Air National Guard from 1966 to 1972
James Jeffords (I-VT) He served active duty with the U.S. Navy from 1956 to 1959, and retired from the U.S. Naval Reserve as a Captain in 1990
Tim Johnson (D-SD)
Edward Kennedy (D-MA) Army, 1951-53
John Kerry (D-MA) Vietnam
Herb Kohl (D-WI) served in the Army Reserve from 1958 to 1964.
Jon Kyl (R-AZ)
Mary Landrieu (D-LA)
Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Patrick Leahy (D-VT)
Carl Levin (D-MI)
Joseph Lieberman (D-CT)
Blanche Lincoln (D-AR)
Trent Lott (R-MS)
Richard Lugar (R-IN)
Mel Martinez (R-FL)
John McCain (R-AZ) Naval aviator
Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Barbara Mikulski (D-MD)
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Patty Murray (D-WA)
Bill Nelson (D-FL)
Ben Nelson (D-NE)
Barack Obama (D-IL)
Mark Pryor (D-AR)
Jack Reed (D-RI) he attended the United States Military Academy at West Point where he received a Bachelor of Science degree in 1971.
Harry Reid (D-NV)
Pat Roberts (R-KS) Senator Roberts served in the U.S. Marine Corps for four years
John Rockefeller (D-WV)
Ken Salazar (D-CO)
Rick Santorum (R-PA)
Paul Sarbanes (D-MD)
Charles Schumer (D-NY)
Jeff Sessions (R-AL)
Richard Shelby (R-AL)
Gordon Smith (R-OR)
Olympia Snowe (R-ME)
Arlen Specter (R-PA)
Debbie Stabenow (D-MI)
Ted Stevens (R-AK) During World War II he was a pilot in the China Burma India theater, supporting the Flying Tigers of the 14th Air Force.
John Sununu (R-NH)
James Talent (R-MO)
Craig Thomas (R-WY) four years in the United States Marine Corps
John Thune (R-SD)
David Vitter (R-LA)
George Voinovich (R-OH)
John Warner (R-VA) age 17, he enlisted in the U.S. Navy
Ron Wyden (D-OR)
The Breakdown:
Republicans:11
Democrats: 11
Independents: 1
Only the Independents had 100% with only one Senator in the party.
Most Ironic goes to Senator Ensign who has never been an ensign.
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Yes, the list is corrupted. For example, it has Bill O'Reily but not Micheal Moore or even that nerdy guy from CNN or the one with the big head.
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