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sopsax01   05-31-2002 at 09:07:43 AM

Has anyone seen a good thorough review of the Pentium 3 1.4 GHz? I would really like to see how it compares directly with the pentium 4 and athlons at that same speed.

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Matisaro   05-31-2002 at 09:29:17 AM
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The p3 1.4ghz owns the p4 1.4ghz and is slightly slower than the amd 1.4ghz(axp).

Im assuming you mean the actual p3 and not the p3celly.

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JCLW   05-31-2002 at 04:15:23 PM
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On a good chipset it will give a P4-2000 a run for its money (on non-SSE2 apps).

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dttdar   05-31-2002 at 08:11:13 PM
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you'll love this link--> <A HREF="http://www.diijon.com/p3s.htm" target="_new">benchmarks here</A>

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Eden   05-31-2002 at 09:54:47 PM
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Yes indeed, this Tually's performance seems just unbeleivable. I knew no P3 was unleashed until 512K L2 was added. However you got these results on a 151MHZ FSB, or 18MHZ higher than P3 spec, but I can see the results have really added A LOT. If Intel had used this way on P4s, they would rock even further than what a 2.6GHZ can do now!

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dttdar   06-01-2002 at 01:20:09 AM
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i just found this--> <A HREF="http://www.intel4ever.kyed.com/P3 1.4 test.htm" target="_new">more benchmarks</A>

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Crashman   06-01-2002 at 07:54:41 PM
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The PIII 1.4 owns everything, clock for clock, including Athlons, even the XP. But it's a poor value.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

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Eden   06-02-2002 at 01:21:59 AM
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It's true it does beat, I can only guess and be heavily inclined on the added cache. As the XP itself is far better than a clock per clock normal P3 256K. With an OCed Tually P3, with new cache and higher FSB, it proves the P3's bandwidth was far from being maxed out.

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Crashman   06-02-2002 at 02:04:23 AM
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The PIII is VERY bandwidth hungry, even the coppermine was. Intel should have doubled the bus speed on the Tually, and introduced a DDR chipset to match (true 266MHz FSB to DDR266).

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

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mattburklund   06-02-2002 at 04:26:35 AM
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I thought I saw a tully mb that used ddr ram

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Matisaro   06-02-2002 at 04:46:58 AM
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Quote :

The PIII 1.4 owns everything, clock for clock, including Athlons, even the XP. But it's a poor value.


No it dosent, the axp beats the p3 tually clock for clock. Even the 512k cache version iirc.

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Crashman   06-02-2002 at 08:51:53 AM
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DDR266 does absolutely nothing for a bus speed of SDR 133. In order to make it perform as it should you would have to double the CPU bus speed and run the memory at half the CPU bus.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

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Crashman   06-02-2002 at 08:54:17 AM
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it's pretty close to a tie with the XP1600+, which is, how many MHz?

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

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lhgpoobaa   06-02-2002 at 09:43:29 AM
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yeah.
i saw a review of one.

it was pretty much a dead loss.
the P3 architecture was just NOT setup to obtain any advantage from DDR (much like the P3 and RDRAM)

the P3 is SDRAM.


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Matisaro   06-02-2002 at 10:06:37 AM
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A 1600+ is 1.4ghz iirc.


So if its pretty close to a tie to your recolection, I take it the 1.4ghz p3t is pretty close to tying the 1600+ which runs at 1.4ghz, therefore my statement the axp leads the p3t 512k clock per clock still stands.


Edited to replace the p4 with p3t, typo/brain fart.
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<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Matisaro on 06/02/02 01:14 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

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Crashman   06-02-2002 at 10:10:07 AM
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What does the P4 have to do with things? We all know that it sucks, clock for clock, compared to almost anything, and that it has required a huge clock lead in order to obtain a small performance lead.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

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Matisaro   06-02-2002 at 10:13:42 AM
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Sorry, meant to say p3t.

I have done that 4 times in this thread, and I corrected 3 of them,(calling the p3t a p4 by accident.)

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Crashman   06-02-2002 at 10:26:25 AM
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It's ok, just a little confusing.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

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Eden   06-02-2002 at 03:38:13 PM
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Perhaps you are right, but when it uses a higher FSB like dttdar's CPU, it definitly gets better per clock. Look at the Sandra results, they show an awefully powerful 1.6GHZ P3 T against a 1900+.
Yeah we need more benches, real world ones, but from the 3d Mark 2001's results, the P3 actually has some powerful optimizations, giving it over 500pts leading edge per clock.

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Matisaro   06-02-2002 at 04:23:53 PM
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You have to increase the fsb on the athlon chip as well, if the athlon@133fsb, is faster per clock than a tually @133fsb, then I have a hard time believing that the same would not be true when both were@150.

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Eden   06-02-2002 at 10:17:01 PM
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Ok yeah, that I didn't say or mentioned. If Athlon has the 150MHZ FSB and locked at the multi that sets it at the same clock again, of course it would still beat it, I mean it's also on DDR so 300MHZ, IF that is relevant....

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Matisaro   06-03-2002 at 12:33:18 AM
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Thats another thing, you cant compare a 1.4ghz tually to a 1.4ghz athlon when the tually HAS to be faster than 1.4 due to it being locked and the fsb being at 150, to be fair you should run the athlon@150 with the same multi yielding an equal clockspeed.


Once these factors are given the axp chip still comes out ahead of the tually in all respects.

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AMD_Man   06-03-2002 at 12:51:14 AM
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The Tually is faster per clock than the Athlon XP if both are paired with SDRAM. The Tually would've been an amazing processor had Intel invested in improving it and upping the clock speed.

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Matisaro   06-03-2002 at 01:33:00 AM
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The Tually is faster per clock than the Athlon XP if both are paired with SDRAM. The Tually would've been an amazing processor had Intel invested in improving it and upping the clock speed.



Of course, but thats defeats the purpose of the test, the ddr bus of the axp is inherant in its design.

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