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Intel tumbled 18 percent! :/

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June 7, 2002 5:43:45 PM

"Intel tumbled $4.74, or 18 percent, to $22.27 after the world's largest semiconductor maker cut its revenue guidance, citing lower-than-expected demand in Europe."

Doh! so much for Intel ...

just to be fair like i always am ...

"Shares of a much smaller competitor, Advanced Micro Devices Inc. (AMD), fell $1.19, or 11 percent, to $9.43. on the New York Stock Exchange. "

and to be neutral ...

"Biotechnology firm Biogen (BGEN) didn't help matters when it warned earnings for the second quarter and full year will be lower than expected amid slower sales of its drug for multiple sclerosis. Shares lost $5.46, or 11 percent, to $42.29. "

and to be fair and balanced ...

"Bad news out of the United States sent investors in Europe and Asia scurrying. Japan's Nikkei stock average fell nearly 1.2 percent. European bourses tumbled to fresh eight-month lows. Germany's DAX index slipped 2.4 percent, Britain's FTSE 100 lost 1.3 percent, and France's CAC-40 dropped 2.6 percent."

and to be prove it ...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,54727,00.html

God... don't you love it when the whole world just goes to hell!? like dipping sauce! ... *shrugs*

you got nukes and terror warnings and nukes ... did i mention nukes? geeze i can't wait for nuclear winter can you!?

with all the bashing and and nonsense here, look around! The whole world is going to hell!

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June 7, 2002 5:56:24 PM

I knew it was them darn Europeans. I was resigned to not looking at my portfolio for a month but this slide made me break that. Oh well buy high and sell never.

Complicated proofs are proofs of confusion.
June 7, 2002 7:09:17 PM

Oh...... this is nothing. I still remember about 2 years ago, Intel went from $65 down to a bit above $40. Intel was expected to narrow the range for their revenues, maybe a bit towards the high side, but instead they lowered their revenues outlook. Perhaps it is because that they are lowering their processor prices too...

My firewall tastes like burning. :eek: 
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June 7, 2002 7:13:46 PM

What's really pissing me off is the fall in value of the dollar. I planned a vacation and now my money is worth a lot less.

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June 7, 2002 7:34:43 PM

Welcome back, that was even quicker than I expected.

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June 7, 2002 8:13:17 PM

the way i look at it is hat i've been here for 4+ years and why should i let some pesky 20 year old stop me from going here. also for the record i'm 24.

hmmm considering i have friends and a gf in real life i have to say thats a negative.

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June 7, 2002 8:35:30 PM

Does anyone know how the market share is divided between Intel and AMD? Last time I checked, AMD was around 30%. You'd think that Intel would of grabbed some of this back with the release of the Northwood.

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June 7, 2002 8:49:18 PM

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AMD was around 30%.

I think AMD was around 22% and Intel was around 78%.

<A HREF="http://news.com.com/2100-1001-822642.html" target="_new">Click</A>
Here's an old Article in C-net and since then AMD has lost some Market share.

KG

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June 7, 2002 9:03:03 PM

The fact that everyone who has talked to you said you're in the wrong would suggest that you're not well liked.

I thought you had your own personal fan club at Anantech, or something? I'm sure you were talking out of your ass, I know you got banned at HardOCP for being an idiot, probably the same at Anandtech, too.

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June 7, 2002 9:46:01 PM

<blockquote><font size=1>Svar på:</font><hr><p>The fact that everyone who has talked to you said you're in the wrong would suggest that you're not well liked.<p><hr></blockquote><p>What's going on here ?


<blockquote><font size=1>Svar på:</font><hr><p>I thought you had your own personal fan club at Anantech, or something? I'm sure you were talking out of your ass, I know you got banned at HardOCP for being an idiot, probably the same at Anandtech, too.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Even Raystonn got banned by the self-sufficient moderator assholes over at HardOCP.


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June 7, 2002 10:02:28 PM

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Even Raystonn got banned by the self-sufficient moderator assholes over at HardOCP.


True, but there was a big backlash because nobody (even the admin I talked to) thought it was justified. Kyle just decided to ban him, for whatever reason. Nobody minded when Sk8er was given the boot, everyone I saw post wanted him gone.

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June 7, 2002 11:33:40 PM

Hmm...I thought you said that was you. My apologies then.

And now I can't find the person I was talking about, I wonder if they got purged.

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June 7, 2002 11:38:37 PM

Since when is apologizing for a mistake harrasment?

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June 7, 2002 11:52:41 PM

Do you know where I can find a burger joint around here?

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June 8, 2002 5:16:22 AM

It is now a good time to buy AMD. The price has finally fallen to a point where buying it is a no loss proposition. Even if it drops more, it will eventually rebound, far above todays values.

As for Intel, I expect them to gain quite a bit as well. I just don't expect their price to double as quickly as AMD.

As for timing and best value, AMD could drop more before they gain. I don't expect any large gains for at least 2 months, so you could take the "wait and see" aproach to see if it get cheaper, with minimal oportunity loss if it gains slightly.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?
June 8, 2002 11:04:20 AM

Skaters registration date~12/10/00 11:18 AM

Thats quite a bit away from 4 years man.

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June 8, 2002 9:34:26 PM

If you buy on an upswing you may loose out on the best prices, in fact an upturn can go down at any time. Since it's impossible to predict the lowest price, it's best to buy on a downswing when you think that it's close to it's low, and wait for the rebound. I think both these companies are close to their lows.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?
June 8, 2002 9:57:11 PM

oh absolutly! i agree 100% ... but sometimes lol when you want something now you pay a premium so. This year is DVD+RW year. That'll be my big upgrade. Because by then DVD+RW's should be on a downswing around december as you say. At least thats my prediction. i've been wrong many times before though. as for intel and amd chips i'd wait. I would not buy a computer now unless you have like my friend had a pentium nothing after it just pentium 133 lol with 16MB of ram i tihnk she said ... i might be wrong might hav e been 14, or 24 ... not sure but it was low ... now i picked her a nice Dell Demension 8200 2.26ghz pentium 4 with 256MB RDRAM. that puppy is gonna dance heh.

ok enough rambling ttyl

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June 8, 2002 10:52:22 PM

Wow a Dell system this generous for performance, how odd! :wink:

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June 9, 2002 1:25:23 AM

Right now with Intel at $22, it's a prime time to buy. AMD isn't even making any money. Unless Intel lowers earnings per share, they have a pretty good multiple. Intel is the future of the semiconductor industry. They are by far the largest company in that sector. They have more than 80% of the desktop market and more than 40% of the whole semi industry. The next largest company in that industry has a mere 6%... I think that Intel is much superior to AMD, but AMD may have a more volitile price, since it is a much smaller company therefore small changes do a lot, whereas Intel is a company firmly rooted and changes don't affect it as much.

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June 9, 2002 5:23:36 AM

AMD is extremely volitile, which is why I like their stock, you can get quick gains if you know how to follow it. Intel at $22 a share, remember both companies split last year, so that's $44 at last years volume. Still a good price, but not the bargain AMD is offering.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?
June 10, 2002 12:40:52 AM

You do realize that a lower stock price isn't necessarily a good thing as in when purchasing computer componenets. Share Price really doesn't have much meaning, except to show company value. I could have a stock at $100 and one at $5 that have the same value, and neither could be better than the other.

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June 10, 2002 6:24:43 AM

Right, but I suspect that AMD has a greater chance of doubling in value than Intel right now. AMD has a nice value cycle that could make a person rich if they knew how to predict the trends. And math has nothing to do with it, else the pro's would know what they were doing. It has more to do with the success of new product releases and overall consumer anticipation. You have to take a guess at whether or not a product will be successful. If it is, the stock rises as buyers anticipate rising dividends. Even if the dividends don't actually rise, the expectation that they will causes people to buy more competitively, and that raises the stock price.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?
June 10, 2002 11:46:28 AM

Sorry but that is untrue. Currently AMD's share price is now below $10, and a falling P/E ratio does not bode well. This particular stock is set to fall further. In fact there is little to no reason as to why there should be any immediate recovery. Now would be the time to buy into defensibles rather than into the "New Economy".

Oh, and the Dollar was overvalued, with the US's current account deficit reaching $6tn, if I remember rightly, there needs to be a net input of 20bn of foreign captial (per day!) to sustain the dollar at its current value.

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June 10, 2002 2:40:41 PM

yes but shares will raise in a while. Stock Exchange is always moving up and down. It is the case for the memory as well. moreover im not sure this could really touch the consumer.
June 10, 2002 6:31:24 PM

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<i>xxsk8er101xx says:</i>
whatever dude!

Just leave me alone!


As long as you're a contributing member of the forum, I'll be happy to.

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<i>dhlucke says:</i>
Do you know where I can find a burger joint around here?


I don't know where you live, but I like sk8er's idea.

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<i>xxk8er101xx says:</i>
dells are nice. I like them. At work we order nothing but dells. Dells is the company i'd buy a computer from or recommend a computer to buy.


Dell has some sweet laptops, Sony's are maybe a little nicer.

We've bought all Dell servers here at work, and they aren't bad. I haven't been real impressed by their performance, and although their service is good, there is better out there. We decided to switch to Compaq.

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June 10, 2002 6:35:15 PM

Dells are only good for home users who aren't full-time gamers or enthusiasts. I think anyone can agree, Dell Home PCs ARE NOT designed for enthusiasts, what with general no-name mobos and chipsets, it's just not worth the sexy look they have.

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June 10, 2002 8:46:15 PM

That's where investors go wrong. AMD stock value does not follow it's P/E ratio in the slightest. Sometimes it climbs on word of increased sales volume. Sometime it climbs on Intel's news. I estimate it to reach $20 within 6 months, baring a 6 month further slump in the overall economy. If I bought now, I'd sell at 18 to play it safe, unless a radical economic upturn made me want to hold it longer.

You see, it's already made most of it's big drop because investors anticipated the problems you just cited.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?
June 10, 2002 8:58:58 PM

Well, "good" is relative. Better than most other OEMs, yes. :wink:

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