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I am about to assamble a silent cinema pc
and have not yet find a viable motherboard for the task

Having given up on finding a good enough
fanless CPU for the task
(Divx Playing)
I am thinking of underclocking as a way
of forced cooling.

My primitive arimetic goes like this:

Troughbred 1700+ bus 266 (1467) 1.5V socket A 90oC 49w
multiplier 5.5?

tweaking:
1.2 v multiplier 3.5


downspeed 3.5/5.5=0.64
downvolt 1.2/1.5=0.8
estdownwatt 0.64*0.8*0.8=0.41

Estimated under-clocking:

Simulated Troughbred 1088+ (266*3.5=931) 20.1 watts

Politely asking the Comunity for any help

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You can have a nearly silent PC simply by using a low speed 80mm fan to cool it.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

Reply to Crashman

Zalman makes a pretty good "silent" cooler. I've heard that it really is ridiculously quiet. Might want to look there. Otherwise, I hear that the new Heat Pipe coolers from coolermaster are very quiet. Also, 120mm fan (most anyway) may be even quiter at a given CFM.

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Reply to Kelemvor
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At any speed it takes nerve to run that proc w/o a fan. I am curious though.......Anyone care to try dions underclock with just a heatsink?

I sold my sig for $50.

Reply to LED

Get yourself a Tualatin 1GHz/133FSB for $150. You can underclock it all the way down to 500MHz, and it will still be powerful enough to play DivX files and DVDs. I know this because I run a P3-750 laptop; it plays DivX/DVD fine even when it's SpeedStepped down to 500MHz/66FSB.

At that speed, you could probably also undervolt the CPU considerably and still have it remain stable. Then you might very well be able to run it with just a passive heatsink.

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Reply to Kelledin

Why not go with the new VIA C3? Sounds like it'd cover everything you want to do just fine, and it can go fanless at only 12 watts of power. Or do some watercooling...

Reply to Garasaki

I allready have a Tualatin but
What mb will let me play with all
settings (including core voltage)?

Reply to dionicio

Haven't herd of heat pipes before
Will chek on CoolerMaster
Thanks Kelemvor

Reply to dionicio

Ups! it is only a Coopermine

Reply to dionicio

Well, not to sound like a salesman...but the VIA chip costs 70ish bucks, and will run in your current PIII mobo. A new mobo will cost around 100ish, plus one of these new-fangled quiet hsf combos...it just makes the VIA option look pretty attractive to me, when your main concern is heat...

Reply to Garasaki

I am asking my provider for a 1Ghz C3...

Will arrive anytime soon now.

Reply to dionicio
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You know I keep hearing this and its getting old. You can still get PIIIs and most dont need a fan is you use a nice server grade heatsink. I have a 500 PII, a 550 PIII, and a 933PIII and NONE OF THEM HAS A FAN!!!! Just heatsinks..... I never cared about noise, just happened across them for a good price and its always nice to not have to worry about a fan dying on you =) Even the 500 plays DivX and DVDs fine.....

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Reply to kief

Seems to be (acording to cpuscorecard.com)
that Tualatin packaging is only FC-PGA2

Is this right?

Reply to dionicio

"Even the 500 plays DivX and DVDs fine....."
That is a definively good piece of data.
Thanks a lot for it, Kief..

Really would enjoy if you were on the mood
to talk a bit more about it.

Reply to dionicio

Quote :

Seems to be (acording to cpuscorecard.com)
that Tualatin packaging is only FC-PGA2


Yes, this is correct.

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Reply to Kelledin

There are lots of PIII tualatin motherboards!
even dual ones!

Just need to find a tualatin provider :)

Reply to dionicio
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No prob =)

Jesus saves, but Mario scores!!!

Reply to kief

I have found a 1.13Ghz tualatin at $125 us
28 watts
:)

Reply to dionicio

I have NO data to back this one up, but I've heard tons of rumors and bits and pieces of SERIOUS problems with that perticular chip...only that freq. though...I dunno if the problems have been solved (if they ever existed...), but you may consider moving up or down a freq...

Its crazy that those PIIIs are so much cooler then current AMD chips...

Reply to Garasaki

Ever seen those huge cooling stacks on nuclear power plants? That's how a heat pipe works.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

Reply to Crashman
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why dont you just get the retail amd and use the heat sink that comes with it. they are pretty quiet.

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Reply to jihiggs

Same Provider offer a 1200 Mhz tualatin
:)

Reply to dionicio
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You could always try a C3.

Personaly, I'd get a case with an Antec TruPower PSU. It's got tempurature controling fan power plugs that reduce noise significantly. These work with up to 3 case fans.

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Reply to bront

I founded the heat pipe coolers here:
http://www.coolermaster.com.hk/en/ [...] /main.html

Impresive especifications!

:)

Reply to dionicio

Found de Zalman cooler:
http://www.zalman.co.kr/english/pr [...] 00b-cu.htm
it is a 2 lb cooper heat sink!
92 mm suspended fan; adjustable speed...
:)
it must cost more than than de cpu :/

Reply to dionicio

Those coolermaster heatpipes are worthless. Well, the heatpipe doesn't do anything for it, but it's still a nice cooler.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

Reply to Crashman

All Intel's socket370 processors are FC-PGA2 now, even Coppermines. Sometime the only way to tell if their Tualatin is by the voltage, which is written on the package. With the Celeron, you can also tell by the amount of cache, 128k for the Coppermine, 256k for the Tualatin. But with the PIII, voltage is the only way to tell.

FC-PGA2 simply means they use the heat spreader on the core. I have an FC-PGA2 Coppermine PIII running on an old BX motherboard.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?

Reply to Crashman
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