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pat   10-20-2005 at 02:08:07 AM

I just installed DHLucke's T-Bird on my re cap ed motherboard and the thing start up. This board is my old Soltek nforce2 motherboard who never ran a CPU at default spec.. I always overclocked them... my mobile 2500+ ran stably at 2.4GHz but I was too chicken to run it a 2.5 for extended time with higher voltage and on air ...

But anyway... now this board insist at running DH's Tbird at 1.25 GHz.. I said good.. just up the voltage a bit ... well, i'm at 1.8v right now and still have some instability.. can I push it higher for a while? I'm trying to figure out a way to slow it down a bit but this board is born as an overclocker and live as an OCer and will probably die OCed...

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dhlucke   10-20-2005 at 04:45:45 AM
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MY BABY!!!

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XxxxX
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dhlucke   10-20-2005 at 04:47:19 AM
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I ran that thing on my old ECS K7S5A and even with the overclockers bios wasn't able to really overclock that CPU. I always blamed it on the MB since it wasn't meant to overclock, but the stepping on that Tbird wasn't one of those great ones that did 1.5Ghz.

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pat   10-20-2005 at 04:53:33 AM
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Ok.. I just figured that it is probably a "c" revision, so running it at 7.5x133 will actually give me the 1GHz default speed, which it did admirably..

but let me tell you that your CPU have installed windows XP at 7.5x166.. with 1.85v, which is not too bad.. I thought that the FSB was at 100 default which was not the case.. no wonder why it refused to boot at 10x166...well, I didnt try enough...

But now that I've figured out the setting on my old mobo, I was able to run a CPU at stock speed perfectly with my new recapped mobo. Still have to finish the other one thou...



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<b>(</b>='.'=<b> )</b>
(" )<b><font color=red>ώ</font color=red></b>(" ) This is my bunny.. got mumps from Ned!!!

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dhlucke   10-20-2005 at 05:00:35 AM
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Yup, and I think the most I ever got it to was 141 Mhz since I couldn't change anything other than the fsb.

<font color=red><b>Long live Dhanity and the minions scouring the depths of Wingdingium!</b>

XxxxX
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pat   10-20-2005 at 04:10:59 PM
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Yeah... The ECS mobo was not one of the best OCer out there..

I did not try 1.9 volts..all I have is a stock AMD cooler probably make for slower duron because it looks cheap. Anyway, as it was for testing purpose, then I will have to give back the board to its owner, but the sad news is...

I think that I screwed the other board.. When trying capacitors because I did not have exact replacement, I think that I pull out a little sleeve from one hole when removing a capacitor....

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<b>(</b>='.'=<b> )</b>
(" )<b><font color=red>ώ</font color=red></b>(" ) This is my bunny.. got mumps from Ned!!!

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pat   10-21-2005 at 01:23:44 AM
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Ok.. the board is really screwed, but I wonder if I can use a dremel and try to dig into the board until I find a trace to weld on... Or maybe I should simply throw it to the garbage...

OTOH, a friend of mine brought me her computer because it was not working correctly.. An old P4 1.6 478 on a MSI board.. with bad cap... I got her a new board, but maybe I should try to revive that board... now that I have good experience with that and that I know that too many soldering/unsoldering can cause damage...

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<b>(</b>='.'=<b> )</b>
(" )<b><font color=red>ώ</font color=red></b>(" ) This is my bunny.. got mumps from Ned!!!

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russell   10-21-2005 at 01:57:07 AM
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Here's a link to an article telling you how to unlock the multipliers on the T bird.


<A HREF="http://www.thetechzone.com/articles/overclocking/tbird1200/page2.shtml" target="_new">http://www.thetechzone.com/articles/overclocking/tbird1200/page2.shtml</A>


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pat   10-22-2005 at 01:01:58 AM
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Thanks.. I'll bookmark it for future reference as I give back the board to the its owner when fully tested.. The T-Bird now enjoying some rest until I get a new board to fix.

After reading the article, I found interresting that the guy said he had it working at 133 MHz.. I had it working at 166.. with 1.85v. Wonder if, once unlocked, I could have it running something like 5x200.... I could call it a T-birdton...

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russell   10-22-2005 at 01:07:01 AM
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LOL

Keep us posted.


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pat   10-22-2005 at 04:28:50 AM
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ok.. Do you think that I can damage the CPU, apart from overheating, if I try to start it at 5x200 and I have to increase voltage at no more than 1.9v?

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russell   10-22-2005 at 06:00:01 AM
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You're asking the wrong guy. I stumbled across that article while Googling for information about the t bird.
From the little bit of over clocking I have done (on a old chip)if you start at recommended settings and then go up only slightly each time it should become unstable before it gets to the point of damaging the chip.
I wouldn't think that increasing the frequency or multiplier would be able to damage it physically but then again I don't have much experience in it.

You would be better off upstairs in the CPU section are to wait for someone that is a little more experienced than me.


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russell   10-22-2005 at 06:52:38 AM
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Quote :

The pencil trick is like theee basic stuff every OC'er should know... (I even mumble it when sleeping)


Wussy, Read what I quoted above. Doesn't that sound arrogant?

Perhaps he knew how to connect circuits using a pencil but needed the photographs to know which connections to make.

If you would think before you typed boastful remarks people around here would be able to tolerate you easier.


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russell   10-22-2005 at 07:22:32 AM
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As matter a fact your response reminded me of my first encounter here at Tom's Hardware. I provided a link to it at the bottom . Take time to go through the thread and you will see how some people helped while others, well actually only one person, took a boastful position.

The result was that I accomplished what I set out to do but I could not have done it without help from people here at Tom's.

Just think, if that one person had ran me off I wouldn't be here today and that would mean Tom's wouldn't exist today.

Everybody knows this place can't run without me. [/Wussy]

<A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=195685#195685" target="_new">My first post</A>


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dhlucke   10-22-2005 at 10:09:37 AM
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You need to take it slow. It's rare to burn out a CPU nowadays, but back then I heard about it a lot more. I think Grizley (an old member) burned out 3 cpus.

<font color=red><b>Long live Dhanity and the minions scouring the depths of Wingdingium!</b>

XxxxX
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dhlucke   10-22-2005 at 10:10:25 AM
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Cocky bastard! Stop that.

<font color=red><b>Long live Dhanity and the minions scouring the depths of Wingdingium!</b>

XxxxX
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(" )_(" ) Bow down before King Bunny

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RCPilot   10-22-2005 at 10:13:27 AM
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Partying late tonight.....



Dazzle them with Brilliance, or Baffle them with BS! :wink:

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dhlucke   10-22-2005 at 10:21:58 AM
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Oh man, you wouldn't believe this crap.

I've been working 9 hours a day plus over an hour of drive time every day for a couple weeks now. I'm beat. These last couple days have been crazy since after those 9 hours I've then been going out to dinner making it a 13 hour day or so.

I come home today take a nap at 6pm only to wake up at 12:30 am. I'm so screwed. I'll never fall asleep tonight.

<font color=red><b>Long live Dhanity and the minions scouring the depths of Wingdingium!</b>

XxxxX
(='.'=)
(" )_(" ) Bow down before King Bunny

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RCPilot   10-22-2005 at 10:34:05 AM
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What a drag Man!!!! I hate getting all goofed up like that, myself....

I was driving 100 miles one way to work for 5 years before I was put out to pasture.... I got up at 3:30 AM to start the day & I'd get back from Detroit at 5 pm.... I thought when I stopped I go to sleeping normally... Well normal is up at 3:30 to 4:30 AM since.... I wish I could sleep at least until 6.....




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pat   10-22-2005 at 06:20:00 PM
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I know about basic OC trick like the pencil one (which cannot be done on following serie because of laser hole between bridges but once filled yes it could..blablabla..

Anyway.. I know this thing can run 166MHz at 1.85v. Now, my question is, if I play with multipliers and FSB, can I damage the CPU if keep the CPU from overheating or running with creazy voltage?

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(" )<b><font color=red>ώ</font color=red></b>(" ) This is my bunny.. got mumps from Ned!!!

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