I'm leaving AMD and going for a P4 2.3 533Mhz CPU.
Does anyone run one of these and how far can it be overclocked?
Also thinkin of what MB to get. Seen the Asus P4S533 which can take the DDR333 ram. I've never run with the SiS chipset but from what I've read it seems ok?
Some are getting 164-166 fsb with the latest rambus boards from Asus. Don't know the model number. The 1066 memory will cost you, though. Personally, I would go with the Asus P4s533 with samsung pc2700 for overall performance and value.
You should get a motherboard that has Intel chips on it. Even a 645dxSis mb with oc pc3200ram is 20% slower than an i845 g with pc 2700. Somtimes you get cheated when you buy cheap.
I went to get a 845G but the local guy here said it didn't support PC2700, said he had just been at intel conference.
I checked intel main site and it aslo says that board does support PC2700...yet Toms Hardware says it does..whats up with that?
I would prefer intel chipset...don't want to go for RDRAM.
If you're going to get P4B then you need to get RDRAM. Check pricewatch, RDRAM and DDR are pretty much the same when it come to price but not performance, especially if you are going to OC. As far as mobo makers. I would go Intel or Asus, definitely the 850E chipset. Asustek's P4T533C(which I currently own)or Intel's 850E MVDL or something screwy like that. Both boards have everything but firewire and RAID onboard (that included USB 2.0 and some unwantedextras like o/b video and sound). But apparently have gotten the hint andare planning new mobos with firewire and RAID o/b and w/o the video or sound o/b. Sorry but I am not able to produce a time frame for you.
I went to get a 845G but the local guy here said it didn't support PC2700, said he had just been at intel conference.
I checked intel main site and it aslo says that board does support PC2700...yet Toms Hardware says it does..whats up with that?
actually...it doesnt "officially" support pc2700, but it can run ram at that speed...
its like asus' P4S533 officially supporting pc2700 ram...but unofficially supporting pc3200...
Even a 645dxSis mb with oc pc3200ram is 20% slower than an i845 g with pc 2700. Somtimes you get cheated when you buy cheap.
20% slower? Where are you getting this info? I've seen a 845G/E beat an SiS 645 by 5-10% running the same speed RAM, but with faster RAM, the SIS 645DX (namely, the P4S533) runs faster than any 845G with PC2700.
The G in I845G denotes onboard video, ICH4 versions support 533FSB so be carefull because some I845G are 400FSB only.
The I845E has 533FSB
If you can afford the few dollars for I845E it is well worth it.
There are no compatability issues that I know of for the above chipsets other than AGP2.0 video cards.
The disadvantage of the SiS chipset is higher speed overclocking with stability. Like I said before this is not a "choice" overclocking chipset like the I845E.
The disadvantage of the SiS chipset is higher speed overclocking with stability. Like I said before this is not a "choice" overclocking chipset like the I845E.
Agreed, the P4S533 won't go over 160MHz FSB without losing the extra mem-ratios. Surprisingly however, it IS stable at high clock speeds with PCI devices, even though it doesn't lock the PCI/AGP bus (as least it doesn't "officially" ). I'd recommend the P4S533 for the Pentium 4A and the BD7(II) or IT7 for the Pentium 4B if you're considering a DDR platform.
Ekk, I didn't actually buy my complete new system yet, but I just bought my Samsung PC2700 now because RAM prices started to go up again!
I'll probably get a Pentium 4 1.8A and a P4S533 or a Pentium 4 1.6A and an Abit BD7-RAID. I don't know how far my Samsung DDR RAM will overclock but my hope is to at least reach over 400MHz; I'd prefer 450MHz DDR RAM at which point it would outperform even PC1066.
Where I live, RDRAM just went up in price significantly and since Rambus just got sued, I'd prefer to stay away from their products for the moment.
PC1066 isn't even available where I live (Toronto) so it's not an option.
With PC2700 (DDR333, which runs at 166MHz) you can run 166MHz FSB, using the setting for PC2100 (memory at 1:1 ratio with bus speed) and get your memory back to its rated speed (166MHz). You can overclock it from there!
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Not a bad choice, but I see your missing some key information. ICH4 chipet = I845E and I845G, the G denotes the onboard video, other than that these are the same chipsets. Did you need onboard video?
Now the IT7 is slightly different, obvious change is legacy free, Second is the HPT374.
Fugger I have a question for your 2.4B. I'm trying to hit the magic 3.0, and I'm getting the IT7, Corsair XMS 3200, and the swiftech (I got both a delta fan and a thermaltake smart fan in case the delta is too loud). I'm not sure on the processor to get but I was hoping I could get the 2.2A to a 137 GHz which would make it 3.0. Do you think with some luck I could hit that speed? My other option is the 2.26B, and I'd need to reach 177 FSB. Which do you think is the best way to go? I've been told it's a lot easier to reach the 137 FSB so I might do that.
The disadvantage of the SiS chipset is higher speed overclocking with stability. Like I said before this is not a "choice" overclocking chipset like the I845E.
Agreed, the P4S533 won't go over 160MHz FSB without losing the extra mem-ratios. Surprisingly however, it IS stable at high clock speeds with PCI devices, even though it doesn't lock the PCI/AGP bus (as least it doesn't "officially" ). I'd recommend the P4S533 for the Pentium 4A and the BD7(II) or IT7 for the Pentium 4B if you're considering a DDR platform
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Yep and one advantage is price! SiS powered mobos are useally much cheaper and running fast and stable with 140 -160 FSB is not all that bad IMO Sure for the extreme overclocker who is looking for higher then say 160 FSB then go with the Intel Chipset.
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