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Star Wars Episode II -- Built on Athlon MP Server

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June 22, 2002 12:38:02 PM

Yeah! I knew it! :-)
June 22, 2002 1:25:51 PM

i will have to say HO-HUM on this one...
just like the post where they used P4 server farm on episode1.

as time goes by both intel and amd will encroach onto the traditional hunting ground of the alpha's, sparks, sgi's etc.
so the special effect buizz will see a range of processors in use.

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June 22, 2002 1:38:54 PM

I guess they weren't quite happey with the Pentium 4 they used the first time around ;) 

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June 22, 2002 2:59:40 PM

This tidbit probably caused AmdMeltdown's heart to break in mid-wank. :wink:

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June 22, 2002 4:40:56 PM

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Star Wars: Episode II -- Built on Athlon MP Servers

yep, just what I said, AMD was relegated to "pre-visualization" a/k/a animatics a/k/a rendering stick figures. LOL!

now lets all scream, YAY! AMD was used to show ILM little boxes and stick figures! ROTFLMAO!!!

"<b>AMD/VIA!</b>...you are <i>still</i> the weakest link, good bye!"
June 22, 2002 4:45:51 PM

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This tidbit probably caused AmdMeltdown's heart to break in mid-wank.

um, yeah! this is the funniest sh!t I've heard all year. AMD used for the cardboard cutouts.

do any of you mongrels know what "pre-visualization" is?

"<b>AMD/VIA!</b>...you are <i>still</i> the weakest link, good bye!"
June 22, 2002 4:57:00 PM

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I guess they weren't quite happey with the Pentium 4 they used the first time around ;) 

no, they used P4 workstations and render farms for ep2.

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don't be an uninformed dope.

btw, the fact that AMD's were used to do the "pre-visualiztation" just shows that they were not up to par in rendering the final scenes.

"<b>AMD/VIA!</b>...you are <i>still</i> the weakest link, good bye!"
June 22, 2002 5:02:12 PM

No offense, but you're a loser! When are you going to get a life? The final scenes take a lot of time to render but the pre-visualizations render in real-time. I wonder if a P4 can handle that! :tongue:

Seriously, I couldn't care less, and the fact that you do proves that you have no life. :tongue:

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June 22, 2002 5:18:55 PM

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No offense, but you're a loser! When are you going to get a life? The final scenes take a lot of time to render but the pre-visualizations render in real-time. I wonder if a P4 can handle that!

Seriously, I couldn't care less, and the fact that you do proves that you have no life.

well if you have the Star Wars: Phantom Menace dvd, take a look at the pre-vis work and tell me if a pentium90 couldn't render those animatics that in real time.




"<b>AMD/VIA!</b>...you are <i>still</i> the weakest link, good bye!"
June 22, 2002 7:25:11 PM

Relax, no one really cares, this is not really "BIG" news or any kind of advancement.

As we can see it is just short of a joke that AMD news has become this pathetic. Let them dwell on this for awhile.

You are limited to what your mind can perceive.
June 22, 2002 7:48:26 PM

"I wonder if a P4 can handle that!"

The answer is yes, You think there is something special or magical that the MP can do that the P4 XEON cannot?

They happen to use MP's so what??? No where did they quote "none of this would have been possible if was not for the AMD MP processor"

If you will notice the "Powerfull Software" gets no credit. ILM always gives credit to the software.

"the fact that the software used is readily available"

"Costly software development or R&D is quite simply overkill. Teams are no longer required to undergo 3-6 week training sessions on proprietary software."

AMDMB readers are being spoon fed crap

You are limited to what your mind can perceive.
June 22, 2002 7:55:33 PM

who [-peep-] cares?
and on a side note: I don't [-peep-] care. (in case anyone was confused how I felt about which brand of processor was used anywhere. Unless you are in management of Intel or AMD or somehow see immediate benefits from your particular company doing better than you need to get a goddamned life.)
June 22, 2002 8:08:37 PM

I find it ironic that the person defending amdmeltdown in this thread, and attacking the poster said NOTHING in the thread this thread is obviously making fun of/countering.

When amdmeltdown posted his p4 in attack of the clones drivel, fugger was no where to be found to tell him "it dosent matter"


hypocritical imo.

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June 22, 2002 8:14:38 PM

I like your signature matisaro. very true.

I think some of the people who are more "intense" about this whole AMD vs Intel thing might be trying to "compensate" for something by arguing for thier respective "superior" processors . . .
June 22, 2002 8:31:11 PM

Thanks for the sig comment, I want it to be sig on the month eventually, but fredi is slow to change sigs.

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June 22, 2002 11:05:56 PM

I find it ironic that you fail to post on topic, and you make a lame attempt to flame in the process.

Unlike you I have a life and cannot read every thread, so sue me.

You are limited to what your mind can perceive.
June 22, 2002 11:09:31 PM

"I don't [-peep-] care."

Uh,thats what I said, no one really cares.

I think people care more about what brand of TP the president uses to wipe with.



You are limited to what your mind can perceive.
June 22, 2002 11:13:54 PM

For all you know, these stick figure rendering were probably the most crucial aspect to BEGINNING this movie's effects.
I won't make a fool of myself to say more, as I know nothing yet in animation rendering, though this will become my field of expertise in the future.

Lemme ask you, why'd they use the MPs, if they would "crash and burn"? Did the movie do that too? :tongue:

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June 22, 2002 11:14:45 PM

No one really cares, but when it's a P4 you go crazy and advertise it, no? Proof lies in the troll king Meltdown.

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June 23, 2002 2:34:25 AM

wow. hey thanks everyone, i almost forgot what it was like back when i was in 2nd grade, thanks for the trip down memory lane.

one, the only way it would mean ANYTHING about which was used in aotc is if intel/amd plugged it for all its worth to the habitually retarded public. noone besides those that know or are interested will ever know or care that a p4 or xp chip were used in the making.

two, melty if your attention span would have lasted half the way through reading that, you would have seen they clearly said it wasn't just stick figures. full anim, textures, lights, shadows and i'm sure if they went that far, at some points they would have thrown on the effects, caustics, raytracing when need be. so this does take a decent amount of power. hardly anything a p90 could even attempt.

three, companies like ilm, d2, spi, etc, etc, don't give a damn about what's inside the box. as long as they know it'll work and get the job done, which either cpu is more than capable of doing.

four, wow a press release about intel/amd chips being used to make a movie, rofl!! get a life. pentiums and amds can't even compare with the number of mac and sgi machines that are in that industry and won't for years to come. if sgi or apple did a press release everytime one of their products were used in a movie they'd have a couple a week.

[insert philosophical statement here]
June 23, 2002 6:50:01 AM

Rendering is rendering, you get the same rendered item from a Pentium 120, as from the latest and greatest anything, the difference is time.
And I'm just curious what Matisaro thinks about a 1.6a at 2.4 GHz as far as money in pocket is concerned :smile:

Gosh I'm such a nerd sometimes, but then again arn't we all. :smile:
June 23, 2002 7:16:09 AM

true, i know quite a few people that are running maya on p75, 64mb ram, 1.1gb hdd and 1mb video ram. actually rendering is rendering, but if you're running any up-to-date sw i don't think you're going to be running a p120 or something. not to mention the rest of the system that that chip has to go into. unless you had a cluster of maybe 75-100 of em and send a render off.

[insert philosophical statement here]
June 23, 2002 7:31:55 AM

if amd new is sad then intels news is sad also.

it really had been a slow news month.
fair amount of new stuff allround... but nothing to go WOW over.

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June 23, 2002 10:05:06 AM

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And I'm just curious what Matisaro thinks about a 1.6a at 2.4 GHz as far as money in pocket is concerned


If I were to buy a new cpu today it would be a 1.8p4@2.6.

I however have no money.

AMD biased my ass.

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June 23, 2002 7:54:28 PM

I figured you'd be a price/performance kind of consumer :tongue:

Gosh I'm such a nerd sometimes, but then again arn't we all. :smile:
June 23, 2002 11:45:13 PM

I am not afraid to overclock, infact I welcome it, if I were joe average computer user I would buy an amd system for ease of use and stock performance.

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June 24, 2002 5:37:04 PM

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I guess they weren't quite happey with the Pentium 4 they used the first time around ;) 


Except that they used the Athlons first and then used P4s.

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June 24, 2002 7:10:35 PM

And I find that just the bit odd, don't you?

Why buy two brands of CPUs that can do the same job, and switch between each?
Can AMPs do the 512-CPU render farm job?

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June 24, 2002 7:19:38 PM

Because it's two different departments using the computers. The Athlon MPs were the previsuals, and the P4s were the animators that were working on the production effects.

<font color=blue>Hi mom!</font color=blue>
June 24, 2002 7:21:24 PM

I know there were two but for what purpose to use 2 types?

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June 24, 2002 8:40:51 PM

Probably because the two departments weren't really obligated to be consistent with one another. Each department could probably get the work done with whatever tools it pleased, as long as each produced the expected results.

I experienced the same kind of thing when working at MCI. Most of the development was done on Wintel boxen, while many of the servers were Alpha boxen running Digital UNIX. I had one of each in my cube.

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June 24, 2002 8:49:25 PM

Like Kelledin said, the two departments aren't obligated by the same budget, requirements, or management. One may have had a bigger budget. Maybe one used heavy SSE2. Or perhaps one manager simply hates Intel.

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June 25, 2002 1:48:41 PM

Both of those stories were written for this type of community and they seem to have been very effective as far as generating a buzz goes.

I enjoy watching you guys argue. It keeps me entertained while I am at work.

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