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And some info on how you can unlock the cpu
http://64.247.35.92/forums/showthr [...] eadid=1261
indeed the xp2200+ at 2.36Ghz is weird not because of its cooling (peltier 220watts + 8°C chilled water) but because the other xp2200+ which has been overclocked to 2.2Ghz with a freeze system conducting the temperature to -3°C.
if you know you don't know, the way could be more easy ...
I just saw that. A single CPU, but hopefully it means there are better ones on the way.
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My good friend Oppainter broke 2400Mhz, but is unstable over 2.3Ghz.
I should have posted this update earlier this weekend but I was busy. It seems 2200's (so the asswipe AMD hair splitters know that I do not mean an exact fricken number) is the max these early Tbreds can hit with stability for a short period of time.
MrIcee has condensation problems and is drying out his system, Oppainter blew a gasket on the EVA and destroyed a P4B cpu and mobo. These guys are the best in the world, and I trust the information 100%. DDTung will be the next heavy hitter bringing the Tbred up to max speed from Japan, He also has a EVA unit plus many other tricks, He is an engineer of some sorts and is capable of modding like no one else that I know of or can name.
Here is a <A HREF="http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=3769216" target="_new">benchmark</A> from the above Tbred CPU with EVA-MAX phase change plus 225watt x2 pelts.
Also if you check <A HREF="http://www.vr-zone.com/guides/AMD/AthlonXP/" target="_new">www.vr-zone.com</A> it should be updated by now.
A whole 90Mhz faster than the Palomino!
You are limited to what your mind can perceive.
These results show how DDR400 and 400MHZ FSB for AthlonXPs IS the real limit and not 2.1GB PC2100, as well as the results of the 2.3GHZ being at XP2850, show how if AMD releases the AthlonXP2800 as they demoed, and with bus OCing and multiplier unlocking to keep the speed as is, can compete majorly against P4s, and just might be the next bargain CPU for its performance. But we'll have to see, at least the results for these OCs are getting better than the first we got from THG and the others even if the cooling was extreme.
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True, but it is taking extreme cooling to get there. Not air cooled like others claimed.
I draw the line at condensation, I will not go there as it is just not worth the chance of frying stuff out.
Oppainter is using the same video card on the Tbred that he uses on the P4, the P4 2.26B still wins by a significant margin.
Now reguarding the 2.4Ghz SS, it is just that, a SS at the max bootable speed. no stability.
Many reports of the Tbred running hot due to the smaller surface/contact area, a IHS would have helped. maybe a aftermarket IHS is possible. The air pocket that is between the HSF and the base of the core traps heat, filling in with a material that can transfer heat would be a good idea, and if you could pull heat from the sides of the core (yes I know it is a small area) with the matireal used to fill in the dead air space it would also help some.
Another thing to note is the L2 and SSE not dropping out on Oppainters overclocks.
You are limited to what your mind can perceive.
stuppug.
if you know you don't know, the way could be more easy ...
why i am not surprising he is your friend? roflMAO.
| Quote : My good friend Oppainter broke 2400Mhz, but is unstable over 2.3Ghz. |
roflMAO
| Quote : These guys are the best in the world, and I trust the information 100%. DDTung will be the next heavy hitter bringing the Tbred up to max speed from Japan, He also has a EVA unit plus many other tricks, He is an engineer of some sorts and is capable of modding like no one else that I know of or can name. |
roflMAO
| Quote : Here is a benchmark from <b>the above Tbred CPU</b> with EVA-MAX phase change plus 225watt x2 pelts. |
from the benchmark link: "<b>CPU: AMD Duron(tm) Processor</b> 2287 MHz". roflMAO
do you want i continue precising?
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<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by corsair3200 on 06/24/02 09:35 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
*smiles*
yep. just as expected. As AMD refines their 0.13 micron process better and cooler tbred's will appear.
Allready ive seen two core revisions, one 'C' and just today pictures of the new 'G'.
dont know why people are getting so uptight.
<font color=blue>All religions are true, for a given value of 'true' - Terry Pratchett.</font color=blue>
??
You do not make any sense at all.
Can you add some verbage or you too busy passing pepsi back up thru your nostrals?
Being a tard comes natural to you, grats!
You are limited to what your mind can perceive.
I think the IHS for P4 is not acting as a heat spreader due to the large silicon. Personally I am pretty sure the Tbred would benefit and actually make the name IHS really what it stands for, a heat spreader to reduce temps. It is of no doubt.
Until then, Barton will be the wiser choice for OCing.
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Hey fugger, FYI corsair3200 = labdog.
and yes, he excells in spewing incomprehensible garbage. for your sanity dont even think about decyphering it
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I usually don't side with you on things, but for this one, yeah Corsair3200 is one annoying guy, and yeah don't mind him.
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LOL!
He gives Corsair (which make very good overclocking RAM) a bad name!
<b><i>"A penny saved is a penny earned!"</i></b>
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*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA*
i said that from the beginning
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if you know you don't know, the way could be more easy ...
do you like Corsair memory clock cycles?
if you know you don't know, the way could be more easy ...
<A HREF="http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/ha/id25302/xp2200_dora.html" target="_new">2585 on LN2</A>
No SSE with LN2, G stepping, heavy mods.
You are limited to what your mind can perceive.
That's roughly the equivalent of the said ClawHammer back a few months. This thing CAN and WILL kick serious ass to any P4 around its clock, for sure.
Though without SSE, it's a bit hopeless...
Still it's a nice OC for a Tbred, but I wish I'd understand the website...
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fun but maybe you could understand this one: whats for?
<i>if you know you don't know, the way could be more easy ...</i>
| Quote : This thing CAN and WILL kick serious ass to any P4 around its clock, for sure.
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Because as we all know, clock speed is what's important, not end performance.
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Why, is a 2.6GHZ Tbred not gonna beat a 2.6GHZ P4? That's all I meant really...
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If the 2.6 Athlon and the 2.6 P4 are the highest processors from each company at the time, then that might make a difference.
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Yes and it is what I meant, with current competing processors, a OCed 2.6GHZ Tbred would be a great money saver, except that it lacks SSE, and is on extreme cooling. My main point was that its performance at such speed, with a high bus as well, kicks ass for sure. I wonder if SSE2 apps like After Effects would still shine on the P4 at the same clock speed. I am guessing yes, since there is added bus and RAM since the 2.4GHZ.
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looks promising for the future of the tbred.
this cpu is using the newer G stepping too.
just you wait.
we will see 2.5ghz air cooled sooner or later,
proly around the time barton shows up.
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If barton will show up at the same time still be a barton 2500 GHZ.
cheap, cheap. Think cheap, and you'll always be cheap.AMD version of semi conducteur industrie
Do you think that the G stepping T-breds are synonymous to the AXP AXIA stettings? It would still seem to me that AMD needs to improve their .13 yields before they even consider releasing Barton, otherwise, it's nothing more than an advanced T-bred with extra cache. Who knows, an 1800+ Barton may be the 1.6a from AMD
"When there's a will, there's a way."
no, i wouldnt call it an axia of the tbred world... but it is a definate improvment.
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| Quote : Who knows, an 1800+ Barton may be the 1.6a from AMD |
The 1800 tbird is the 1.6a from amd, taking that sucker to 2300+ is nothing to scoff at, and on a 166fsb would give the 2.4 p4 a run for its money.
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hehehe
i assume you mean tbred not tb<font color=red>i</font color=red>d
LOL
tbird at 2.3Ghz... hmmm... little fusion generator lol
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| Quote : a OCed 2.6GHZ Tbred would be a great money saver |
Because super cooling is cheap.
| Quote : except that it lacks SSE |
I think you mean SSE2.
| Quote : My main point was that its performance at such speed, with a high bus as well, kicks ass for sure |
What, for 10 seconds before it crashes?
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| Quote : I think you mean SSE2. |
No I think he meant SSE cause when using LN2 cooling or something like that to do extreme overclocks, it seems like a few lose their SSE.
What's the deal with lampshades, I mean it's a lamp, why would you want a shade?
Yeah that's what I meant.
As for extreme cooling pricing, I said if the aircooling methods work at 2.6GHZ soon if Tbred continues to improve then the cooling won't be so expensive, but we'll see.
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Oh, that's right. I forgot about that little quirk.
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I have a friend who keep his PIII Celeron PC in a freezer. It is too overclockable, but probably he will damage both the PC and the freezer.
Fatburger is right,the end performance does't mean a thing.It's the clock that counts.
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