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Whats the best fan/heatsink for AthlonXP 2200??

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June 25, 2002 5:03:06 PM

the title says it all, i just want a good approved copper base/all copper heatsink/fan link to buy. Ill probably wont overlock this cpu, but i have $35 for it.
Any suggestions?
June 25, 2002 5:10:02 PM

two words...
stock fan

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June 25, 2002 8:03:43 PM

i guess that means the one in the retail package... isnt it?
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June 25, 2002 8:38:47 PM

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i guess that means the one in the retail package... isnt it?

Yes it is

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June 25, 2002 9:24:34 PM

Maybe if you want your computer to sound like helecoptor. I just installed an AMD 2100+ and the stock fan, and I swear my computer is about to take off and fly around the room. To make sure it was the CPU fan and not the other 3 fans I have going, I pulled the CPU fan power cord out of the MB and sure enough, that was causing all the noise.

Anyone have a quiter suggestion?
June 25, 2002 11:17:10 PM

ive mailed the manufacturers of cooler master HHC-001 wich heatsink is made entirely of copper, to be sure its athlonxp 2200 compliant. How much noise in DB is a "helicopter sound"??? this one seems to be at 40db at maximum speed
June 26, 2002 12:45:14 AM

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Maybe if you want your computer to sound like helecoptor. I just installed an AMD 2100+ and the stock fan, and I swear my computer is about to take off and fly around the room. To make sure it was the CPU fan and not the other 3 fans I have going, I pulled the CPU fan power cord out of the MB and sure enough, that was causing all the noise.


You must have a bum fan, the stock hsf is very quiet usually.



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June 26, 2002 1:39:20 AM

I've been reading some reviews and it sounds like other brands are just as loud (Thermaltake & Cooler Master). The AMD retail fan is running at 5300 RPMs and the CPU is at 57C. Everything seems OK. Still looking for a quieter fan though....
June 26, 2002 2:12:49 AM

If you think amds stock fan is loud you must not have been in the high speed processor race for quite a while, the stock hsf is around as quiet as it can get.

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June 26, 2002 2:40:47 AM

Yeah, your right, I just upgraded from a PII 333Mz. And damn what a difference! It's nice to acctually run new games!
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June 26, 2002 5:10:53 AM

Thermaltake Silent Viking 2200RPM 23dBA 80mm 32,4CFM $37.
Thermaltake Volcano 7 2900-5000RPM 27-39dBA 80mm 46-53CFM $32.
Globalwin CAKII-38 6800RPM 46.5dBA 60mm 37.6CFM $50.


ps: Swiftech MCX462 4900RPM 48.5dBA 80mm 68.5CFM! $100 for xp2200+ OC'ed.



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June 26, 2002 5:16:05 AM

I really like my heatsink, a Global Win CAK-II 38, about $28 US, and a tube of Arctic Silver III, about $7 US. $35 for ya

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June 26, 2002 6:31:19 AM

I got my ThermaTake Volcano 7+ at my local computer store for $38. It is great. The fan is 6490 RPMs on full speed. It has a variable speed controller with it if you care about noise. I say the louder the better!! Anyway I have a Athlon XP 1900+(1.6ghz) OCed to 1706mhz and it is 100% stable and runs at 114F. I'm going to try to OC it to Athlon XP 2100+ speed soon and I think I'll do it easily. GET THIS HEATSINK!!
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June 26, 2002 6:50:44 AM

there are no miracles in Physics. most is the air flow, most the HSF is efficient & cools well but most it is noisy.

mostly you have to choice between a silent HSF with an average cooling or a slight noisy HSF which cools better. here is the choice.


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June 26, 2002 10:58:19 AM

Alphapal8045+sunon 80mm fan= best cooling absolutly silent, period.



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June 26, 2002 1:35:50 PM

some precisions & some specs about high cooling HSF.

Swiftech MCX462-U (newer heatsink model)
4900RPM 22CFM/14dBa/57.9°C 40CFM/30dBa/49.1°C <b>69CFM</b>/49dBa/44.9°C - stock version
(tested Processor: AMD® Athlon® XP 2000 overclocked to 1760MHz@1.85v)

Alpha PAL8045 3800RPM 40dBA 80x80x20mm 46.1CFM - stock version

Delta High Output 80x38mm 4900RPM <b>68.5CFM</b> 48.5dBA (Model: FFB0812SHE)
Vantec Tornado Super High Output 80x80x38mm 5700RPM <b>84.1CFM</b> 55.2dBA (Model: TD80038H)

Sunon Low Output 80x25mm 2.1watt 2900RPM 36CFM 32dBA
Sunon High Output 80x25mm 2.5watt 3200RPM 42CFM 36.5dBA
Sunon Super High Output 80x25mm 4.3watt 3500RPM 50.6CFM 40.6dBA (model KD1208PTBX)

<pre>recall: there are no miracles in Physics. most is the air flow, most the HSF is efficient & cools well but most it is noisy.</pre><p>

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June 26, 2002 6:40:54 PM

yes it is sufficient for your cpu if you don't plans to overclock it. just a bit noisy with a 38 dBA for this kind of utlization. you can find some HSF round 30 dBA fitting your need.


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June 27, 2002 4:24:24 AM

I think you could get much better cooling with the Pal8045, a larger fan, some custom case cutting and ductwork.

Not being constrained by fan size allows one the luxury of good cooling AND maintaining silence.

I wasn't going to say anything, but you said period at the end in such a taunting manner.
June 27, 2002 4:56:49 AM

Ok thanks.
June 27, 2002 5:08:16 AM

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I wasn't going to say anything, but you said period at the end in such a taunting manner.


heh.

The pal8045 is an 80mmx80mm heatsink a larger fan would be wasted, just as 80mm fans on 60mm heatsinks(even with adapters) dont work very well.

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June 27, 2002 5:53:54 AM

Heh, at least we agree on the 8045's.

not necessarily wasted as:
it really comes down to total CFM's delivered. a properly built duct could be used to nozzle the air pushed by a large, high CFM, low RPM fan and create a high pressure zone directly on the heatsink similar to an 80mm but ultra high speed fan. The advantage is the low speed, but large fan is much quieter than it's high speed smaller equivalent.

Perhaps more importantly, proper ducting would allow air from outside the case to blow on the heatsink rather than air from within the case.

PS yes, I know virtually nothing about air nozzle design, but it doesn't mean I won't try to figure it out when the time comes.
June 27, 2002 9:20:42 AM

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not necessarily wasted as:
it really comes down to total CFM's delivered. a properly built duct could be used to nozzle the air pushed by a large, high CFM, low RPM fan and create a high pressure zone directly on the heatsink similar to an 80mm but ultra high speed fan. The advantage is the low speed, but large fan is much quieter than it's high speed smaller equivalent.


While ducting from the outside is a great idea, funneling fans dont work(I know from experience) the shrinking diameter of the air path causes blowback which actually DECREASES the amount of air which blows by the heatsink, now with a big enough fan you can overpower this blow back and get more net airflow than with a good 80mm fan, however this extra power usually costs in terms of sound, and you would have been better off in most cases(although I wont rule it out) just sticking with the 80mm fan.

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June 27, 2002 2:26:05 PM

Hmm, that makes sense. I had planned on getting the torquiest deep fan I could fine. I hadn't considered that the backpressure might cause extra sound though.

Maybe I should expect to experiment for a while before finding that perfect combo. Unfortunately, my actual pneumatics knowledge leaves very much to be desired, so I can't just prove the concept to myself with fancy equations or anything.

Thanks for your thoughts and time.
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June 27, 2002 3:42:35 PM

some precisions & some specs about high cooling HSF.

Swiftech MCX462-U (newer heatsink model)
4900RPM 22CFM/14dBa/57.9°C 40CFM/30dBa/49.1°C 69CFM/49dBa/44.9°C - stock version
(tested Processor: AMD® Athlon® XP 2000 overclocked to 1760MHz@1.85v)

Alpha PAL8045 3800RPM 40dBA 80x80x20mm 46.1CFM - stock version

Delta High Output 80x38mm 4900RPM 68.5CFM 48.5dBA (Model: FFB0812SHE)
Vantec Tornado Super High Output 80x80x38mm 5700RPM 84.1CFM 55.2dBA (Model: TD80038H)

Sunon Low Output 80x25mm 2.1watt 2900RPM 36CFM 32dBA


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Alphapal8045+sunon 80mm fan= best cooling absolutly silent, period.

i think he prefers an absolutly silent fan without the possibility to overclock its processor. but whatever everyone is free about its choices.


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June 27, 2002 7:37:22 PM

even non overclocked processors will benefit from better cooling. they will last longer. But hey, silence can be good at times, no denying that. I just would like to have it all, silence and top notch air cooling.

I was just debating in the pursuit of knowledge, and not to try and one up the man, although it may not have come across like that. But I think Matisaro understands that. The benefit for me doing this is: he raised a good point, which has caused me to do some rethinking, not always a bad thing to do.

It's kind of ironic, but the real noise problems in my system are not caused by the fans but hard drives spinning at ungodly high RPM's.
June 27, 2002 7:53:00 PM

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think he prefers an absolutly silent fan without the possibility to overclock its processor. but whatever everyone is free about its choices.


LOL, why is my 1700+@149fsb right now, with my silent sunon? I overclock just as much as the next guy, the alphapal8045 with a sunon fan is quiet AND cools WONDERFULLY.


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