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i have officially switched sides to Intel!

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July 1, 2002 3:46:44 AM

ok i've bit the bullet forked up the bucks and got an Intel system.

Tell me what you think!?

I got the:

Abit IT7
Pentium 4 2.0A ghz retail
512MB of corsair XMS PC2700 CAS2

what do you think?

<A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?id=9933" target="_new"> My Rig </A>
July 1, 2002 3:51:23 AM

You're gonna overclock that thing, right?

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July 1, 2002 3:56:28 AM

Because otherwise, you'd be doing a good waste of money when you could pay less for a similar performing AMD system. So overclock for sure, to get the best value. (I would recommend a 1.8A now though)

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July 1, 2002 4:49:27 AM

there was a 26 dollar difference between the 1.8 and the 2.0

i'm buying for stability not speed. ... nice to have speed but not so nice if your new system crashes every year and you have to buy a new motherboard every year.

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July 1, 2002 5:03:43 AM

lol one crash per year isnt bad with overclocking. ive gone thru alot more with my adventurers.

<font color=green>Proud member of THG's</font color=green> <font color=blue>Den Of Thieves</font color=blue> :lol: 
July 1, 2002 5:16:06 AM

lol that made me laugh lol ... i needed that ... well at least a smile anyway ...

once a year and i haven't overclocked it at all lol. I'm hoping my new Intel based system will work! i could care less if it works half the speed of an athlon. I want it to work! lol ya know!?

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July 1, 2002 7:17:36 AM

""i could care less if it works half the speed of an athlon. I want it to work! lol ya know!?""

hehe, yep-yep-yep, just waiting for *G chipset come down in price a little.. and so loooong AMD no more, wheew, that thing makes me "work" my brains out..

PS: by the wai, even it works at the same spid as SoLong (jeezz, where did you get zat "half the speed" thing), it is at least half the temperature of it, and I like that a lot.. gg

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July 1, 2002 11:56:45 AM

lol yes! it's driving ME nuts! I can never do anything because i'm constantly busy fixing this damn thing. I've gone through 3 AMD motherboards in like 3 years, i think it's time to switch lol!

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July 1, 2002 12:42:10 PM

Ooo.... the IT7 seems very nice mmm.... so did you already get those parts?

:smile: Falling down stairs saves time :smile:
July 1, 2002 1:05:45 PM

not yet i ordered them at newegg ... and ya the board looks fast and stable. I read a review and they gave it the editors choice award. Plus i never use those legacy ports ever so i thought this was a good choice board and several people recommended it. Even yourself i think.

the board was 152, the 1.8A ghz cpu was 166 and the 2.0A was 192 not much of a difference in price. And the ram was 152 for 512MB. It came to 500 if your interested.

I just hope i didn't make a mistake (infact i lost a lot of sleep and i'm a zombie right now) and that it'll work. Cos if it still crashes i'm just gonna take my computer and toss it out the window and buy a mac lol!

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July 1, 2002 1:13:09 PM

So did you get the 2.0A or 1.8A? You'll get a 1.8A to 2.4B no problem, but going from 2.0A-2.66B you'll probably need to raise voltages. Good luck with the comp. Yeah I was really looking hard at getting a new computer this summer, and was interested in the IT7. Looks awesome. I decided to wait on Hammer and Prescot though. Oh well. What kind of video card you got?

:smile: Falling down stairs saves time :smile:
July 1, 2002 1:48:13 PM

it shouldn't be much of a problem. Raising the voltage a little should be easy. Plus with Intel no worry in your chip melting remember? lol! If the stock fan can't handle it i'll purchase a new one. or just lower the FSB a little.

*shrugs* ... we'll see how much i can crank this P4! lol!

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July 1, 2002 7:41:36 PM

Quote:

I got the:

Abit IT7
Pentium 4 2.0A ghz retail
512MB of corsair XMS PC2700 CAS2

what do you think?

Hehe, I ended up with a better system :tongue: :

Abit IT7
Pentium 4 2.26B GHz retail
512MB of Samsung PC2700
Western Digital 80GB HD w/ 8MB Cache
etc.. (the rest are components I had already)

:tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:

I hate to say it but this is FUGGER recommend stuff! :wink:

:wink: <b><i>"A penny saved is a penny earned!"</i></b> :wink:
July 1, 2002 7:57:21 PM

lol! I already have 2 60GB drives and a 30gb drive ;p lol.
also the chip i bought should easily reach 2.66ghz. Since this board took a 1.6 to 2.6. 2.66 should be reltivly easy also. and jsyk the board we got ca do 170mhz FSB easily! but that would take my chip beyond 3ghz and it would just freeze up lol probably anyway. .. so ya 2.66 should cream your setup hehe ;p

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July 1, 2002 8:35:01 PM

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also the chip i bought should easily reach 2.66ghz. Since this board took a 1.6 to 2.6. 2.66 should be reltivly easy also. and jsyk the board we got ca do 170mhz FSB easily! but that would take my chip beyond 3ghz and it would just freeze up lol probably anyway. .. so ya 2.66 should cream your setup hehe ;p

Hehe, the Northwood B is known to overclock to higher speeds than Northwood As, I'll aim for 3GHz! :tongue:

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that corsair XMS memory uses Samsung memory. it's the same stick you bought basicly but mine has a heat spreader on it :) 

Samsung is cheaper and overclocks just as well. :tongue:


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keep bothering you lol ok.. you're more familiar with Intel p4's ... do i need to apply Arctice silver on the P4 at all? or don't need to but you could? or what?

Nah, forget about it. The P4 retail HSF is just great.

:wink: <b><i>"A penny saved is a penny earned!"</i></b> :wink:
July 1, 2002 8:46:07 PM

lol! ... i wasn't about to pay double the price for it though lol ... i'll try and aim 3ghz too! lol .. lets make it a race heh .. i'd lose cos i'm slow but lol ...

sweet no arctic crap.. that stuff is gooey and gets all over everything!

sweet can't wait for my setup! first intel in quite awhile!

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July 2, 2002 3:02:54 AM

It's funny how people have so many problems with AMD stability. I have my 1.6ghz XP OCed to 1.73ghz and it is rock solid.

The thing I think most people forget is.....








GET A FREAKIN ASUS MOTHERBOARD!!!!
July 2, 2002 3:44:34 AM

Skater, I'm not sure if it's an AMD problem. I too have had all-AMD parts for years and I have had to replace 2 broken mobos, and now a third. But ever since I switched to SiS I don't have this problem anymore.

You know why Intel refuses to let Via make Wintel chipsets? Guess why... I know, I know, not the full story, could be power supply, bad power outlet, etc... but sure makes a difference.

This little cathode light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine!
July 4, 2002 5:37:58 AM

In BIOS set your memory to 3:4/Low and you will be running your ram faster than bus speed. Nice boost in performance.

I like the cas 1.5 option too

You are limited to what your mind can perceive.
July 4, 2002 5:48:53 AM

cas 1.5??? Hot diggidy damn!!! :cool:

So I fixed my BIG PC problem by pressing the reset button. I'm not a moron am i? :lol: 
July 4, 2002 10:15:02 AM

"ok i've bit the bullet forked up the bucks and got an Intel system.

Tell me what you think!?

I got the:

Abit IT7
Pentium 4 2.0A ghz retail
512MB of corsair XMS PC2700 CAS2

what do you think?"

Why is this such a big deal?

"Just the facts ma'am"
July 4, 2002 11:58:39 AM

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In BIOS set your memory to 3:4/Low and you will be running your ram faster than bus speed. Nice boost in performance.


Yup, I know that trick.

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I like the cas 1.5 option too

I heard somewhere that CAS 1.5 doesn't actually improve performance with the current BIOS. Also, I'm not sure if my RAM can handle that. Well, I'll try it either tonight or tomorrow.

:wink: <b><i>"A penny saved is a penny earned!"</i></b> :wink:
July 4, 2002 1:12:31 PM

Dare I say it but what about RDRAM?

Other than the expense does it not offer better overall performance?
July 4, 2002 8:58:36 PM

Well comparing my TH7-II (RDR) and my IT7 (DDR), I can push them both to almost equil memory speeds.

Yes I have benchmarks to back that statement up but I am too lazy tyo link them atm.

You are limited to what your mind can perceive.
July 4, 2002 9:05:16 PM

It works but there s a down side (hitting high FSB/Mhz) if you have slower ram, I can run 1.5 cas up to almost 150FSB. I believe it drops off somewhere around 146FSB if I use the 5-2-2 settings. This leaves my overclock far short of my target with 1.5 CAS.

I am at 166FSB x 2-5-2-2 3:4/low. a nice stable 3Ghz machine. My vcore is at 1.675 and default memory voltage.

This is my 24/7 speed. I can pull an extra 200Mhz but the IT7 loves this speed so I left it.

You are limited to what your mind can perceive.
July 4, 2002 9:16:25 PM

Well, I'll see what my Samsung PC2700 can really do, but not now..later, my head hurts, lol. Does it actually improve Sandra Memory Benchies or not?

:wink: <b><i>"A penny saved is a penny earned!"</i></b> :wink:
July 4, 2002 9:26:03 PM

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oh lol .. 1 more thing i forget to mention .. that corsair XMS memory uses Samsung memory. it's the same stick you bought basicly but mine has a heat spreader on it :) 

Is that true? I'm having a helluva time getting my system to run stable with the Corsair XMS PC3200. I have tried every single setting imaginable and cannot get my system to run 100% stable. When it crashes it is always during 3d applications. Could it be my video card? If anyone has any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated.

P4 1.6A overclocked to 2.4
Asus P4S533
512MB Corsair XMS PC3200 DDR
ATI Radeon 8500

To start press any key. Where's the "any" key? --Homer Simpson.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Black_Cat on 07/04/02 05:27 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
July 5, 2002 6:05:22 AM

Yes it does, here is a few examples examples.

Ok, here is the <A HREF="http://service.madonion.com/compare?pcm=354066" target="_new">ABit TH7-II 151x4 PC1200 speeds</A>.

Here is the <A HREF="http://service.madonion.com/compare?pcm=447979" target="_new">IT7 155x3:4 Cas1.5-5-2-2</A>.

And lastly here is my <A HREF="http://service.madonion.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/p..." target="_new">highest posted PCmark score</A> Notice the CPU goes up but the DDR and RDR memory scores are very close.

You are limited to what your mind can perceive.
July 5, 2002 6:16:59 AM

Im not a big fan of SIS chipsets, they are great at stock speeds but not at overclocking.

You are limited to what your mind can perceive.
July 5, 2002 6:41:57 PM

An OCed 1.6A has the highest 3dmark2001SE score. But I guess that's only one benchmark.. and I doubt your average joe could complete a 3dmark run at 16 x 198.3MHz FSB without some extreme cooling mods. Still, the highest 3dmark score with a $140 processor isn't too shabby. I'm sure the Northwood Bs are easier to overclock without massive tweaking though. Haha, what am I talking about, I'm still running on a T-bird.
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