I'm an AMD fanboy. Got a problem with that?
Ok, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that the article "Second hand smoke" was very poorly written in terms of readability, however I'm quite sure I know the answer to why it was written.
I'm quite glad that the article was written being an AMD fanboy myself. You'd probably think that I'm not making much sense, but lets get down to it already. Omid wrote the article to stir up controversy. As some of you may know, THG is good at making an impact in the market. They caused a $150 per share price drop in RDRAM in a single day due to one of their articles. Don't believe me? Just read the following article.
http://www.vanshardware.com/articles/2002/03/020317_THG_Slander/020317_THG_Slander.htm
I would obviously see that what Omid is trying to do is get AMD's asses in gear and actually start competing with Intel. Don't wait 6 months, do it now!! Be more agressive in their marketing, and ramp up the performance in their processors. I'm pretty sure that this is what the article was trying to do. With the release of the video where THG shows AMD processors catching on fire, AMD decides to better the thermal protection, and as of June I think it was.. can't remember, all motherboards with AMD processors must have proper thermal protection. I think this article needs to be viewed from a business oriented perspective.
I've read every post in the topic entitled "Stop smothering AMD?" on this forum, and I thought it'd be best to start a new thread to possibly clear a few things up, and to let the people know that don't feel like reading the 100 or so threads started in that topic.
Now that that is cleared up I'd like to respond to LED's comment on SSE2 which is laughable itself as it provides no advantage when you take AMD's powerful FPU into account. I'm into video editing myself, and this can be a very CPU intensive task especially when encoding MPEG2. TMPGenc is a very popular MPEG2 encoder and it is optimized for P4's as it includes SSE2 optimizations. When put to the test an xp 2000+ outperforms a P4 2.2 in encoding time. Hmm, stronger FPU vs SSE2, I think I'll stick with a stronger FPU thanks.
Go here for the benchmark
http://www.vr-zone.com/reviews/Intel/P4-Northwood/page7.htm
On another note, I'm disappointed that THG doesn't use TMPGenc in their reviews instead of that crappy pinnacle software which no one uses. TMPGenc is by far more popular!
On to stability? Ok, I'll be honest, in all the AMD systems I've used, I've never had instability issues. Can't say I've had any issues with Intel systems either. If you use the right hardware with each system you shouldn't have problems. Ok sure, sometimes you get duds with motherboards, but it's the same thing with with any hardware. Just take a look at IBM's 60GXP/75GXP line of hard drives or WD's 800BB through 1200BB line of drives which are built on IBM's technology mind you. What I'm getting at here is that every company has problems with their products. Take a look at Intel and their lame ass USB technology which sometimes causes systems to lock up when unplugging devices or causes power surges in devices and it's supposed to be HOT PLUGGALBE! I'm not putting down Intel, and I'm not sticking up for AMD in this regard but everybody makes screwups so deal with it!
Ok, so why am I an AMD fanatic?
Price kthx
Video editing requires a lot of horse power, and I mean a lot! Sure, a P4 2.53 CPU will encode my video faster than an XP 2200+, but in reality the time saved just isn't worth it to me. I'm a Canadian and I've read that many others in this forum are. I would have to shell out $1143CAD for the latest P4 as opposed to $327 for an XP 2100+ (note. the site that I shop at doesn't have pricing on the XP2200+ yet). Source http://www.ncix.com/canada/productlist.php?majorcatid=101&minorcatid=106
Oh well, that's enough of my ranting for 1 night. Oh and by the way, I joined this forum too in light of the article posted by Omid. Cheers to him, because I think that this just might be something that will light a match under their asses over at AMD. Pull up your damn pants already and compete on a competitive level at least!!!
Ok, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that the article "Second hand smoke" was very poorly written in terms of readability, however I'm quite sure I know the answer to why it was written.
I'm quite glad that the article was written being an AMD fanboy myself. You'd probably think that I'm not making much sense, but lets get down to it already. Omid wrote the article to stir up controversy. As some of you may know, THG is good at making an impact in the market. They caused a $150 per share price drop in RDRAM in a single day due to one of their articles. Don't believe me? Just read the following article.
http://www.vanshardware.com/articles/2002/03/020317_THG_Slander/020317_THG_Slander.htm
I would obviously see that what Omid is trying to do is get AMD's asses in gear and actually start competing with Intel. Don't wait 6 months, do it now!! Be more agressive in their marketing, and ramp up the performance in their processors. I'm pretty sure that this is what the article was trying to do. With the release of the video where THG shows AMD processors catching on fire, AMD decides to better the thermal protection, and as of June I think it was.. can't remember, all motherboards with AMD processors must have proper thermal protection. I think this article needs to be viewed from a business oriented perspective.
I've read every post in the topic entitled "Stop smothering AMD?" on this forum, and I thought it'd be best to start a new thread to possibly clear a few things up, and to let the people know that don't feel like reading the 100 or so threads started in that topic.
Now that that is cleared up I'd like to respond to LED's comment on SSE2 which is laughable itself as it provides no advantage when you take AMD's powerful FPU into account. I'm into video editing myself, and this can be a very CPU intensive task especially when encoding MPEG2. TMPGenc is a very popular MPEG2 encoder and it is optimized for P4's as it includes SSE2 optimizations. When put to the test an xp 2000+ outperforms a P4 2.2 in encoding time. Hmm, stronger FPU vs SSE2, I think I'll stick with a stronger FPU thanks.
Go here for the benchmark
http://www.vr-zone.com/reviews/Intel/P4-Northwood/page7.htm
On another note, I'm disappointed that THG doesn't use TMPGenc in their reviews instead of that crappy pinnacle software which no one uses. TMPGenc is by far more popular!
On to stability? Ok, I'll be honest, in all the AMD systems I've used, I've never had instability issues. Can't say I've had any issues with Intel systems either. If you use the right hardware with each system you shouldn't have problems. Ok sure, sometimes you get duds with motherboards, but it's the same thing with with any hardware. Just take a look at IBM's 60GXP/75GXP line of hard drives or WD's 800BB through 1200BB line of drives which are built on IBM's technology mind you. What I'm getting at here is that every company has problems with their products. Take a look at Intel and their lame ass USB technology which sometimes causes systems to lock up when unplugging devices or causes power surges in devices and it's supposed to be HOT PLUGGALBE! I'm not putting down Intel, and I'm not sticking up for AMD in this regard but everybody makes screwups so deal with it!
Ok, so why am I an AMD fanatic?
Price kthx
Video editing requires a lot of horse power, and I mean a lot! Sure, a P4 2.53 CPU will encode my video faster than an XP 2200+, but in reality the time saved just isn't worth it to me. I'm a Canadian and I've read that many others in this forum are. I would have to shell out $1143CAD for the latest P4 as opposed to $327 for an XP 2100+ (note. the site that I shop at doesn't have pricing on the XP2200+ yet). Source http://www.ncix.com/canada/productlist.php?majorcatid=101&minorcatid=106
Oh well, that's enough of my ranting for 1 night. Oh and by the way, I joined this forum too in light of the article posted by Omid. Cheers to him, because I think that this just might be something that will light a match under their asses over at AMD. Pull up your damn pants already and compete on a competitive level at least!!!