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Flamethrower205   07-08-2002 at 06:20:12 AM

Ok, just found out my freind got a new compaq w/ P4 1.6Ghz, and I wanna know how I can tell if it's a 1.6a so I can OC it. Also, u just need to raise fsb, right?

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Quetzacoatl   07-08-2002 at 06:25:17 AM
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Physically, it has far more pins, (478 compared to 423 for a Willy). Also, you could check in Windows using WCPUID. Right, you raise the FSB to OC it, multiplier is locked at 16 for a 1.6Ghz Pentium 4 (Willy or NW).

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pr497   07-08-2002 at 06:26:38 AM
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the only way i can come up with (without taking everything apart) is by monitoring the VCore VIA the BIOS (if possible) or installing MBM5 and checking the VCore...as you know...a Vcore of ~ 1.5 is a northwood (P4 w/ "A" ) and ~1.75 is the older willy core.

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pr497   07-08-2002 at 06:28:54 AM
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you could check in Windows using WCPUID.


yea...screw my way...your way is a lot easier...

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Quetzacoatl   07-08-2002 at 06:29:54 AM
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Lol, *shrugs* either way, they both work.

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Flamethrower205   07-08-2002 at 06:34:33 AM
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thx, I'll check out cpuid. How much can I expect to oc it w/ stock cooling- 2.4Ghz?

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Quetzacoatl   07-08-2002 at 06:39:00 AM
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Go for more man! Well, in all seriousness, probably 2.4-2.7Ghz with stock cooling. You have plenty of headway with your CPU, it's more dependant on the quality of your ram.

"When there's a will, there's a way."

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pr497   07-08-2002 at 06:44:18 AM
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id be a little more conservative...
try 133 FSB (2.13 ghz) 1st...then work from there...
id expect it to get at least to 2.4...but thats being a little ambitious...

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Quetzacoatl   07-08-2002 at 06:48:48 AM
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Well, just considering that a 1.6a is usually a 2.0a downbinned, 2.0 to 2.13 is only a 133Mhz gain, I would think a 1.6a could probably hit around 2.4 or more if he's got a good yield. Just as long as he slowly increases the FSB, he won't kill it.

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pr497   07-08-2002 at 06:54:49 AM
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i wasnt worried about him killing the cpu...i just didnt want him to have high expectations and end up getting a 200mhz overclock rather the the near 1 ghz overclock a lot of people are getting...
and besides...we dont even know if that 1.6 P4 is a northwood or not...

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Quetzacoatl   07-08-2002 at 06:56:13 AM
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*slaps forehead* I forget, it could be a *shudder* willy P4...let's hope to god its not

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pr497   07-08-2002 at 06:58:18 AM
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Quote :

let's hope to god its not


in that case...ill pray to budda... :smile:

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Flamethrower205   07-08-2002 at 06:59:43 AM
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In that case I OC it to 10Ghz w/o any cooling.

My frog asked me for a straw...dunno what happened his ass all over the place :eek:

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Anonymous   07-08-2002 at 07:23:44 AM
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check this <A HREF="http://www.sharkyextreme.com/guides/hwGuides/article.php/10709_1380951__7" target="_new">link</A> for overclocking.


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LED   07-08-2002 at 12:30:02 PM
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It's gonna have more cache. 512KBs.

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FiL   07-08-2002 at 12:44:14 PM
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please remember that there are lots of Williamette's running on socket 478....

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Quetzacoatl   07-08-2002 at 03:20:15 PM
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Ah true yes, but still, you'd be able to tell using the other methods, and besides, it would still suck anyway to have a Willy.

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FiL   07-08-2002 at 03:27:19 PM
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yeah Williamette is not as desireable as Northwood, i think looking at the amount of cache is the easiest way to differentiate.

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AmdMELTDOWN   07-08-2002 at 05:03:24 PM
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Quetzacoatl   07-09-2002 at 12:02:12 AM
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Wow, meltdown with an actual useful statement? Doesn't sound like old melty to me.

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lhgpoobaa   07-09-2002 at 01:36:17 AM
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*whispers*
well we are talking about the love of his life here :lol:

So I fixed my BIG PC problem by pressing the reset button. I'm not a moron am i? :lol:

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Quetzacoatl   07-09-2002 at 02:18:19 AM
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LOL, that is harsh man, i'd shoot myself if my lover was amdmeltdown *shudders in disgust*

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Flamethrower205   07-09-2002 at 05:30:53 AM
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Thanks, now I can know for sure. P4's still have antioverheat protection where they just underclock, right?

My frog asked me for a straw...dunno what happened his ass all over the place :eek:

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Quetzacoatl   07-09-2002 at 05:39:22 AM
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Not underclock, but throttle down the Mhz to reduce the CPU cycles, thus lowering heat to an acceptable level.

"When there's a will, there's a way."

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orbz   07-10-2002 at 01:40:05 AM
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Can the throttle down be monitored (speed of cpu) like using mbm or wcpuid besides noticing the machine slowing down?

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Quetzacoatl   07-10-2002 at 03:07:24 AM
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You know, I have no idea...that's a good question. Anyone here have a Pentium 4 and would like to take their heatsink off?

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Crashman   07-11-2002 at 12:24:51 AM
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WCPUID tells you how many KB of L2 cache you have, the "A" has 512k while the earlier had 256k.

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