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Nvidia: Expect x86 Processor in 2-3 Years

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March 4, 2009 6:15:33 PM

Let me guess..Will it be yet another way to recycle the G92? lol
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March 4, 2009 6:17:23 PM

nice... this will squeeze amd/via :-(
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March 4, 2009 6:20:16 PM

Too bad nVidia is small potatoes compared to Intel. Just like AMD is more or less. It gives them a tough job of getting enough research and development money and expertise to actually do the design of highly competitive parts. Intel has, up until this point, stayed out of the powerful graphics market, allowsing nVidia, and AMD's recently acquired GPU maker ATI to have the full lions share of discrete GPU market. With Larabee coming to market soon, nVidia see's Intel entering the high end discrete GPU market and in order to preserve it's market cap, will want to venture into new technology. Intel has pretty much reached market cap limits for chipsets and CPUs and is now moving into new technology for them, GPU's while seeming to back away from NAND FLASH for some reason.
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March 4, 2009 6:20:52 PM

roofusLet me guess..Will it be yet another way to recycle the G92? lol

I like that...
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March 4, 2009 6:28:22 PM

roofusLet me guess..Will it be yet another way to recycle the G92? lol

This cracked me up so much. I fell out of my chair.
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Anonymous
March 4, 2009 6:32:10 PM

Nforce chipests, GPU Technology, now X86 CPU's....... Yeah I'm on board for the next generation of greatness. Just as intel sells CPU's and boards with there own chipsets I see Nvidia doing the same thing ONLY better. AMD I hate to say is on life support so now is the time for Nvidia to step up and lead. Imagine a full gaming system nvidia CPU, GPU, Nforce Mobo, only thing missing is Nvidia memory. "The Award for most Kick Butt gaming system goes to Nvidia" lol.
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March 4, 2009 6:45:17 PM

zahanffxiNforce chipests, GPU Technology, now X86 CPU's....... Yeah I'm on board for the next generation of greatness. Just as intel sells CPU's and boards with there own chipsets I see Nvidia doing the same thing ONLY better. AMD I hate to say is on life support so now is the time for Nvidia to step up and lead. Imagine a full gaming system nvidia CPU, GPU, Nforce Mobo, only thing missing is Nvidia memory. "The Award for most Kick Butt gaming system goes to Nvidia" lol.

AMD has an increadibly strong server market and well performing grahpics market to keep it afloat until they can finish the catch-up. They have the Phenom II which is keeping up with intels latest, which is a testiment of how well they're doing in such hard times.

Nvidia will never lead the performance pack in x86, and it has a little to do with experience. The best they could possibly do would be to purchase via for their x86 liciense, and then apply their graphics and effeciency knowledge to the nano. But without that, every competitor they'll be up against has 20+ years of experience in the x86 market over them. Lol, and the "next generation of greatness" wont be with Nvidia.
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March 4, 2009 6:45:27 PM

zahanffxiNforce chipests, GPU Technology, now X86 CPU's....... Yeah I'm on board for the next generation of greatness. Just as intel sells CPU's and boards with there own chipsets I see Nvidia doing the same thing ONLY better. AMD I hate to say is on life support so now is the time for Nvidia to step up and lead. Imagine a full gaming system nvidia CPU, GPU, Nforce Mobo, only thing missing is Nvidia memory. "The Award for most Kick Butt gaming system goes to Nvidia" lol.

Fucking fan boys....
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March 4, 2009 7:00:14 PM

With Intel suing Nvidia over chipset licenses I doubt that would they would be able to make x86 cpu with out a license. The only reason AMD can produce x86 chips is from an agreement from way back, and I don't think Intel has to license x86 to anyone. But that could have anti-trust issues attached.
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March 4, 2009 7:20:42 PM

AMD can produce x86 chips because of an arbitration case where as a remedy for Intel's breach of a contract, the arbitrator granted AMD a perpetual, royalty-free license to x86 patents, as well as any technology patents belonging to Intel obtained through reverse engineering.

Anyone else making x86 technology must license it from Intel. Intel does not have to license to Nvidia if it does not want to do so.
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March 4, 2009 7:22:14 PM

nVidia's chip designs are great, they do more process with lower clocks, so in netbook market, and mobile device market, nVidia's x86's could be great, and will be great, not a fanboy, this is technology, and economics and competition! they know they have to release a great product to be compete-able with other products in the market! wait and see!
[ remember, more product's competition, better prices and performance, better for us ]
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March 4, 2009 7:22:27 PM

erikstarcherWith Intel suing Nvidia over chipset licenses I doubt that would they would be able to make x86 cpu with out a license. The only reason AMD can produce x86 chips is from an agreement from way back, and I don't think Intel has to license x86 to anyone. But that could have anti-trust issues attached.


Nvidia can probably make x86 processors without violating Intel's x86 license because the patents on the 486 processor will expire this year. Intel Atom processors' design are very simple, very much like a pentium or a 486 processor, which is why Nvidia can make their own x86 processors based on the 486 processors without violating Intel's IP. They could've made a processor that integrate an x86 processor and the ION platform in one die and sell it for cheap.
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March 4, 2009 7:25:44 PM

Nvidia buying Via is on the edge of possibility. I am not sure that Nvidia has the capital to actually out right buy Via though. Would be their best bet though to enter into the cpu market.
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March 4, 2009 7:42:15 PM

Nvidia should enter the CPU market because the CPU market is going to increase substantially in the future when many things like cars,TV's,robots etc are going to have a small CPU in them.

I hope they'll enter the high end segment also because more competition is needed there.

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March 4, 2009 8:15:47 PM

via should merge with nvidia. they could use a proper chipset maker and the capital to invest into new cpus and hopefully will allow the transfer of the x86 license
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March 4, 2009 8:22:53 PM

The license for the 486 runs up soon, so x86 shouldn't be hard. But SSE, SSE2, and all the way up are probably still out of Nvidia's reach, and that could hurt.
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March 4, 2009 8:31:10 PM

roofusLet me guess..Will it be yet another way to recycle the G92? lol


After reading Angelini's article...this made me lol a little. :-D
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March 4, 2009 8:50:13 PM

roofusLet me guess..Will it be yet another way to recycle the G92? lol


LOL!!!! thumbs up!
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March 4, 2009 9:33:14 PM

roofusLet me guess..Will it be yet another way to recycle the G92? lol


Awesome... just awesome.
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March 4, 2009 9:44:11 PM

roofusLet me guess..Will it be yet another way to recycle the G92? lol

LOL!
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March 4, 2009 10:18:03 PM

Why not just aim for x64 processor? I mean in 2-3 years x86 will start to go down!
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March 4, 2009 10:41:55 PM

Sorry..The G92 was the first thing that popped in my head. It's like a penny stuck to the pavement so to speak. I buy alot of Nvidia stuff but I cannot help but scoff at the prospect of them playing in the CPU arena. They need to take the advice they gave Intel and "stick to doing what you do well". I am sure they feel a new world coming with integrated graphics on the CPU core and dont want to miss the boat but their lazy, lack of innovation rebranding of stale products tells me they are NOT ready. They are losing the price/perf battle in what they do best which means they need to concentrate on fixing their house before adding on to it.
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March 5, 2009 12:03:36 AM

NICE! I just got a virus off one of the banner ads on this page. What the hell?
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March 5, 2009 12:13:14 AM

wrackWhy not just aim for x64 processor? I mean in 2-3 years x86 will start to go down!

Because every x64 processor is really just an x86 processor with 64-bit extentions. The only real 64-bit processors come from IBM or intel's Itanium lineup (I could be missing one, dono). You can thank AMD for that massive screwup. If AMD hadnt rushed the gate on 64-bit support when it didnt matter one bit, we would likely have true 64-bit solutions atm.

So for now, and much of the forseeable future, x86 compatability will have to be a priority.
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March 5, 2009 12:32:41 AM

jkflipflop98NICE! I just got a virus off one of the banner ads on this page. What the hell?


Yea my AV went crazy on here a while ago. I would never expect anything like that here.
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March 5, 2009 12:40:34 AM

roofusLet me guess..Will it be yet another way to recycle the G92? lol


Only if they could. At least it would make the G92 chip dirt cheap mass production and all.

roofusYea my AV went crazy on here a while ago. I would never expect anything like that here.

That's why i changed my hosts file to block most ad's gets most of them at least.
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March 5, 2009 1:40:24 AM

roofusYea my AV went crazy on here a while ago. I would never expect anything like that here.


Get firefox with no script and adblock extensions. Works wonders for me.
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March 5, 2009 6:49:49 AM

even though Intel is more than 10x the size AMD/Nvidia combined, Intel's criteria for being successful is their high profit margin. Any extra competition in any segment directly into the x86 market could spell disaster for Intel and some very unhappy shareholders. Since Intel and Nvidia holds more of a grudge towards each other than ever, this makes perfect sense; if not to just piss off Intel.
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March 5, 2009 7:06:05 AM

So what happened to the GPU will power the PC?
No matter which way you look at it, most pc programs are written for a x86 cpu and to be able to enter the CPU market you processor will have to support that instrction set. I would be pissed off if I bought a new CPU and most of my software didn't work cause it was not x86.
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March 5, 2009 7:09:52 AM

What is going to happen next, Sony going to bring out a Cell CPU with x86 instructions?
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March 5, 2009 11:42:45 AM

Intel is investing more in a single US Fab than NVidia makes in a year. I love NVidia... they've got some solid GPU designs and they're by no means slouches when it comes to pumping pixels, but it'll take them MANY years and BILLIONS in investment to be able to field a processor that could even compete on the low end of the market - they're not going to be giving AMD and Intel "A run for their money" anytime soon.

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March 5, 2009 4:09:18 PM

@curnel_d
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You can thank AMD for that massive screwup. If AMD hadnt rushed the gate on 64-bit support when it didnt matter one bit, we would likely have true 64-bit solutions atm.


C'mon... Really? And I suppose with Intel at the helm of the 64-bit development revolution, at this very moment we'd likely have a consumer affordable "true" 64-bit solution--not based on under-performing, infrastructurally nightmarish IA-64 tech--and we'd completely avoid encountering the same (or worse) problems currently facing broader implementation/adoption of 64-bit?

Wait...

You know, you're completely right! We'd be SO much better off than we are right now with this rushed, hack-job, x86-64 screw-up designed by AMD--the very extended architecture, mind you, that Intel is licensing instead of pushing its own 64-bit scheme...

Yeah...points, mate... truer words ne'er spoken...
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March 5, 2009 5:41:46 PM

I'd love to see those low power processors being used in a larabee like (parallel) environment!

It'd be cool to have an all in chip on a board the size of a number keypad of the keyboard, with 5 sockets placed there.
Just plug and play another CPU chip to work in parallel (upto 3), and plug upto 2 of the same chips for graphing processing aiding!
I'm sure a system like that (using round about 12W) will have plenty more of processing power than current 2Ghz Core2Duo's.
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March 5, 2009 6:49:31 PM

So eventually there will be a all INTEL system (intel CPu + Larabee), all AMD system (AMD + ATI) and a all Nvidia system (nvidia GPU + nvidia x86 cpu).

It's sad that nvidia doesn't have the cash to just buy out VIA. But yet, again most of us already know that this will be a remix of the G92 or G94 core. Nvidia has finally barked up the wrong tree, and since intel holds the X86 licenses they'll have to learn to kiss arse. To get this x86 build out the door.

But once (and if this happens) we'll have competition on a whole new level. Which means for us the consumers, better prices for a complete system.
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March 6, 2009 8:12:15 AM

I'm sitting here imagining an nvidia gaming computer!
3x dual gpu graphics on a 3sli board running an nvidia cpu, and attached to a local nuclear reactor!
3x dual gpu = 6x extra 75w power + 3x from the pcie socket = 675W
nvidia board tdp = dunno but I suppose 40W or so
nvidia cpu = 400W probably, and sporting like 5 billion transistors
After all nvidia's way of making stuff faster is just by adding more of the same stuff.
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March 6, 2009 12:09:52 PM

neiroatopelccI'm sitting here imagining an nvidia gaming computer! 3x dual gpu graphics on a 3sli board running an nvidia cpu, and attached to a local nuclear reactor!3x dual gpu = 6x extra 75w power + 3x from the pcie socket = 675Wnvidia board tdp = dunno but I suppose 40W or sonvidia cpu = 400W probably, and sporting like 5 billion transistorsAfter all nvidia's way of making stuff faster is just by adding more of the same stuff.


That's so true
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