Out growing my XP1800

[jiffy]

I'm starting to get tired of my XP1800, not only is the Pentium 4 kicking it's butt, but since I got it, it doesn't seem to tweak as well as the TB IMO, using a VIA chip.

I remember using the TB with everything in the BIOS tweak with little to no problem. And with the XP1800 and a DDR mobo I can't seem to get near as many tweaks as I did with the TB, like fast right, 4X, BIOS and Video Cache and such. Has anyone had the same experience?

To me the XP1800 has let me down, concerning the VIA and the tweaks, unless it's just me, because I don't have that much interest or time to try every possible combination, I just know the TB tweak better for me.

So if I want more I don't see the XP2200 satisfying my needs. So, I'm serious considering a P4 2.4, where stock speed is important to me, but also would like to be able to overclock if I want to play. If I'm not wrong the RDRAM is still the fastest, so I would want that. Isn't this the Intel 850 chip though, are there any other RDRAM chips? I don't think the Intel chip has many tweaks does it?

What I would like, is something with as many tweaks as a VIA chip, and also use RDRAM. Am I asking for to much? Also, if I switch to a P4 2.4 will I see any difference, I mainly play games and search? Will I kick a$$ on line playing UT, will my system be more stable?
Any info would be appreciated.



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[jiffy]

Please please one at a time, everybody will get a chance to reply.




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[chuck232]

Let's see, get yourself a P4 2.26B and then some kind of RDRAM mobo. I don't really understand why you want so many "tweaks". As long as it runs fast, what's the point? Maybe it's tweaked at default. I could give you crap settings chopping off 20% of your potential performance, then you can tweak it so that it gives you 95% performance, or I could give you settings that give you 95% already, then some tweaking bringing it to 100%. You see what I mean?

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[jiffy]

Yeah, I understand what you mean. I'm just use to having mobo's with the VIA chip that have so many tweaks, but lately they have been useless. I guess I wouldn't need them if the system was already fast, but I would still like to be able to over clock with RDRAM if possible. Is that possible?






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[mbetea]

if you're having problems playing games and being on the web with an xp1800 system, you seriously set something up wrong. or you have a gf2, ata33 hdd and 64mb of ram.

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[chuck232]

Oh you can, just don't get an Intel mobo. I've heard ABIT TH7IIs and ASUS P4T533-C are good. They both use the i850 chipset, with the ASUS using the 850E I believe.

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[jiffy]

I have an

XP1800
Abit KR7A-R
Leadtek Gf4400
WD1200jb
500 DDR;-)
Win98

When I had used a Thunder Bird I could turn everything up and on in the BIOS. When I got the XP1800 I notice I had to drop a few settings. And when I got the new mobo, WD and Gf4 again I'm losing more settings. I'm getting tired of tweaking just to play a few games. Maybe I would do better, just getting away from the VIA mobo. Sure it could be me, seems like I have enough things that could go wrong with my set up. So instead of any more tweaking, let's just replace. Time to give the P4 a shot.



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[jclw]

If you just want a toy to overclock with keep your XP1800+ and get one of <A HREF="http://www.xbitlabs.com/cpu/celeron1a-oc/" target="_new">these</A>. With a bit of tweaking I'm sure you could work it up to around 166FSB (Celeron-1666) which would make it quite the little powerhouse.

- JW

 

[MeTaLrOcKeR]

Try a different board man......take a look at the ASUS A7V333..... =) lots of tweaking options..and JSYK.....its not the CPU (XP1800) that takes away the tweaking options from you..its the Motherboard u have....

<A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?id=13597" target="_new">-MeTaL RoCkEr</A>

 

[jiffy]

OK, thanks. I'll check them out.




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[jiffy]

I remember getting my XP1800 up to 1700+ MHz. I don't know about now, but the bottom line is the P4 is still faster. I don't want to toy with overclocking, just want something fast like the P4 2.4 and be able to overclock if the mood share hit me.



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[jiffy]

Since I updated my computer I haven't been 100% happy with it. I'm bad mouthing all my hardware, including the mobo. The Asus is a nice mobo, but I would think the Asus has just about the same settings as the mobo I have now. Maybe it would do better with my hardware, I don't know. Do you have the Asus and an a XP1800 and are able to turn everything up and on in the BIOS without any trouble?




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[chuck232]

If what your system specs say is correct, you'll need some DDR RAM if you want to get an A7V333.

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[jiffy]

Oops, that should say DDR not Sdram.



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[chuck232]

Oh, ok. Then a A7V333 would work fine.

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[MeTaLrOcKeR]

No there not the same......the BIOS settings for every motherboard r different, even though the majority of MB's share the same settings.....some r not there in certian boards.....others r....

i have the ASUS A7S333...its got a fair share of options in the bios......and besides, there wotn be much of a noticeable performance increase going from an XP1800 to a P4 2.26 or whatever u said...

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[AMD_Man]

and besides, there wotn be much of a noticeable performance increase going from an XP1800 to a P4 2.26 or whatever u said...

That depends, if he gets PC1066 or PC800 and overclocks it to PC1066, it will most definitely make a difference.

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[jiffy]

Thanks for posting your mobo, but unless you have a VIA mobo and an XP CPU will you know just what I am experiencing. My mobo is not exactly a piece of junk, and I would go as fare as to say it is just as good as the Asus A7V333, since there isn't much difference between the KT266A and the KT333, unless things have change
Anyway I believe my mobo is a good one, at least for a VIA board. I can get it set up like I want, just that it might crash once and awhile being set so fast, and it sometimes is a pain to get it straighten out again. My choice are either set fast or set for stability. Some games may not have to be set so fast, other games it can help.

Now does this justify forking over the money for a P4 2.40? Maybe if I can find faster with less setting to screw with, and hopefully get more stability.




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[jiffy]

>That depends, if he gets PC1066 or PC800 and overclocks it to PC1066, it will most definitely make a difference.<

What do you recommend AMD-Man? I'm thinking Abit/Asus w RDRAM, guess that would be a 850 or i850 chipset. Don't you have to have two sticks of ram? What do I want Sangsun or Kingston 2-256 none ECC, and why wouldn't I just buy PC1066?



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[AMD_Man]

Hmm, for PC1066, I recommend the Asus P4T533-C and 2 sticks of 256MB PC1066. Samsung or Kingston are fine. I don't know which overclock better.

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[jiffy]

That looks like a good board too. I'll have to check them out and do some reading up on the switch, before I buy some hardware. Thanks




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