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Toester   07-23-2002 at 04:10:37 AM

I'd like to know what pin do you break off on a p4 to go from 400bus to 533bus????

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lhgpoobaa   07-23-2002 at 04:23:52 AM
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well... you could buy 478 P4's... then break a different pin off each one of them in sequence...

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Toester   07-23-2002 at 04:27:56 AM
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lol

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Toester   07-23-2002 at 04:29:12 AM
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I'm pretty sure he was talking about the mobo!!

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Crashman   07-23-2002 at 04:54:34 AM
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I was actually talking about the CPU! And unless you're SURE that your processor WILL run at the new 33% faster clock speed, and that your motherboard WILL support it, I wouldn't recommend it!

<font color=blue>At least half of all problems are caused by an insufficient power supply!</font color=blue>

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BuddyAtBzboyz   07-23-2002 at 06:50:38 AM
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Ok I'll bite tell me more.

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Crashman   07-23-2002 at 08:13:12 AM
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Oh, first of all you need a board that is capable of operating a "533" bus CPU, check Intel's website to find out if your board applies. Then download a document from them with the Socket 478 pin definitions. Now, it just occured to me that there is a way to do this without damaging anything except the warranty on the board. Instead of breaking off a pin on the CPU, you COULD rip the connector out of the socket and run some wires from the back of the board to a micro switch! This would also apply to the voltage selection pins, by disconnecting them from the socket and wiring in a micro switch from the back of the board, you could have any voltage you wanted available!

OK, here you go! http://www.intel.com/design/pentiu [...] 249887.htm Page 13 gives you the voltage chart, page 18 gives you the BSEL chart, where the second line that says "reserved" is the setting for the 133MHz FSB (QDR533). If you want to see that for sure, look at the later document http://www.intel.com/design/pentiu [...] 298643.htm, which is otherwise less informative.



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nja469   07-23-2002 at 08:28:11 AM
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ppl it's safer and easier to just buy the damn 533FSB chip, and coul end up being cheaper if you were to damage things when try to rig this up.

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Crashman   07-23-2002 at 09:00:29 AM
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I can help him make his motherboard Dip-Switch configurable, this is the next best thing to soft-BIOS and won't burn up his chip!

<font color=blue>At least half of all problems are caused by an insufficient power supply!</font color=blue>

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Hoolio   07-23-2002 at 02:18:01 PM
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Ahh I will go and buy some second hand motherboards from ebay, I will try it, hell, I was going to build my own clock generator so I could fiddle with the fsb, therefore I could then keep the AGP/PCI bus running at the correct frequency but I can adjust the fsb while the PC is running.


:-P

Right so who is first for a 1Ghz fsb???

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bront   07-23-2002 at 04:24:23 PM
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Why would you need to break the pin off anyway? You should be able to push the CPU up to 133 with a bios change and not damage the chip at all.

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Crashman   07-23-2002 at 06:25:49 PM
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We're talking Intel manufactured board here, no BIOS options!

<font color=blue>At least half of all problems are caused by an insufficient power supply!</font color=blue>

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Crashman   07-23-2002 at 06:25:50 PM
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We're talking Intel manufactured board here, no BIOS options!

<font color=blue>At least half of all problems are caused by an insufficient power supply!</font color=blue>

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Crashman   07-23-2002 at 06:27:13 PM
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If you're going to fiddle around with the BSEL pins, you had better make sure the board supports "533" bus CPU's to begin with!

<font color=blue>At least half of all problems are caused by an insufficient power supply!</font color=blue>

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Toester   07-24-2002 at 04:19:46 AM
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sorry---but I think somewhere I mentioned that it's an Asus mobo....(Asus845 p4b---can handle "new" p4's up to 2.4ghz,0.13 core,socket 478...,can "fine tune"from 66mhz up to 200mhz..., asus jumperfree,Vcore and Vio adjustable)....if this info helps at all.

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Crashman   07-24-2002 at 04:43:30 AM
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Dude, I thought you said you had an Intel board! OMG, you need not do any modifications, just push the clock speed and voltage up in BIOS!!!

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Toester   07-24-2002 at 04:49:54 AM
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I had it running @1.984 with vcore @1.775..........but ran about 58 deg.should i push the vcore to 1.8....what about the increased heat....Quake 3 only runs 5 min. at this setting??

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BuddyAtBzboyz   07-24-2002 at 05:55:23 AM
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Wow progress. I would like to see some results on this especially since the white papers are so boring that even if I could understand them I could never read them!

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Crashman   07-24-2002 at 06:38:34 AM
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Oh crap, that's right, you're the poor guy with the Williamette core P4. No, most of them didn't go that far.

<font color=blue>At least half of all problems are caused by an insufficient power supply!</font color=blue>

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Toester   07-24-2002 at 06:42:18 AM
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actually----p4

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Crashman   07-24-2002 at 07:04:21 AM
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Of course!

<font color=blue>At least half of all problems are caused by an insufficient power supply!</font color=blue>

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scamtrOn   07-24-2002 at 10:47:58 AM
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roflmao

i saw your post in the others forum and was wondering what you are talking about. well i can see now and my head hurts. roflol

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buddry   07-24-2002 at 05:38:39 PM
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hehe, agreed.

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Smokey   07-24-2002 at 08:51:36 PM
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Cutting a pin off a CPU? That has got to be the most hardcore mod for an Intel system EVER. Especially cosidering its the most expensive component. How did you come to think of that?

You've actually done this? Crashman, you certainly got a pair. That's incredible.

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Crashman   07-24-2002 at 09:05:27 PM
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Haven't done a P4 yet, have done PIII's and Celerons, I even posted about it last year! I'm probably going to try it with a P4 but by removing the clip from the socket's pinhole and soldering on a microswitch to the bumps on the back of the board where it pokes through! Trying to find a donor motherboard for the mod right now.

<font color=blue>At least half of all problems are caused by an insufficient power supply!</font color=blue>

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Hoolio   07-24-2002 at 11:29:55 PM
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you remove the clip from within the socket right?? then you solder a micro switch to the relevent pin on the pin bsel1?

am i right?

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Crashman   07-25-2002 at 01:28:45 AM
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Correct, except it's BSEL0. and I was speaking of doing it on the "nubs" on the back of the board where that little pin clip comes through.

<font color=blue>At least half of all problems are caused by an insufficient power supply!</font color=blue>

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