Sick of AMD want Pentium suggestions or help?

[Sir_Spunk]

Third AMD 1GHz chip on warranty. Also third Asus A7V via KT133 chipset.

Can't clock to full 1GHz only reaches 750 MHz. I've set the multiplier to 7.5 at an external freq of 133 but it wouldn't boot. Then switch the mult to 10 to run at 100 MHz but it would only clock to 750 MHz again.

So unless I can figure out how to fix this, I'm looking for a P4 1.8a... Any suggestions on a good motherboard?

 

[Dinski]

You might be fckd the bridges when you were trying to unlock the multiplier.
If not, this means that by some reason your bus speed is 75MHz. Run several tests, as SANDRA for instance.
Are you sure they haven't sell you K7 @ 750MHz?
Another possible reason might be if this K& is with newer CPU core which is not recognized by BIOS. Keep in mind that KT133 is rather old chipset. As far as I remember, only KX-133 is older. KT-133 was the first chipset designed for Sock A, right?
Check at ASUS site for bios update.

 

[Hoolio]

Yeah update your bios, I have a KT133A and updating the bios allows me to have:
Mulitplier of 13.5
FSB upto 200Mhz
and athlon XP processors.

Only problem is it is still and SDR board. I think more than likely the board has suffered damage and therefore it not providing the correct clock.

Remember the clock generator is on the motherboard and not on the chip!

 

[Matisaro]

Is that the kt133 or the kt133a, because the kt133 does NOT DO 133FSB!!!


The kt133a does, so dont get upset when it wont run at 133fsb, it isnt your cpu its the motherboard.


rehash

kt133=100fsb 133dram
kt133a=133fsb 133dram

kt133 mobo not hitting 133fsb is not a defect.

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[PCcashCow]

Dont you think its not a AMD problem ? Clocking just isnt following what some posted on a site, there alot og (logical) algorithms involved. If you looking for an answer try a new mobo, otherwise i hope you have the cash for a P4.

-Tim

Leave amd alone "the hammer is comming"

It seems that every time I reboot my wallet gets smaller.

 

[xxsk8er101xx]

hmm ya the old KT133 chipset is a lie. It doesn't do 133mhz FSB. The KT133A does.

Stupid isn't it? Via can't even get the naming right! It should be KT100 but they wanted people to buy there stuff so they fooled you into thinking it's 133mhz FSB when it can only do 100. 110 at most when overclocking.

If you're serious about a pentium 4 check this out.

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512MB of PC2700H (from corsair XMS series of memory. H for heat spreader)

good luck!


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[Hoolio]

No actually the KT133 does not officially support the
133FSB(266), the KT133A does support the 133FSB officaially.

Now the person who started this thread has a KT133, my betting is he bought an Athlon 266FSB, check the writing on the chip, if you have got a 266FSB athlon, then go and swap it for a 200FSB version, that would be the only problem.

Or you could try getting a new MB a KT133A version, they aint that expensive any more and I have not had any trouble with the KT133A ever.

BTW I have an ASUS A7V133 (w/KT133A & Raid) it is a nice MB and support Athlon Xp's if you get a bios update .

 

[Matisaro]

Stupid isn't it? Via can't even get the naming right! It should be KT100 but they wanted people to buy there stuff so they fooled you into thinking it's 133mhz FSB when it can only do 100. 110 at most when overclocking.

Its called the kt133 cause it does the sdram at 133mhz.

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[Siddhartha]

"Third AMD 1GHz chip on warranty. Also third Asus A7V via KT133 chipset.

Can't clock to full 1GHz only reaches 750 MHz. I've set the multiplier to 7.5 at an external freq of 133 but it wouldn't boot. Then switch the mult to 10 to run at 100 MHz but it would only clock to 750 MHz again.

So unless I can figure out how to fix this, I'm looking for a P4 1.8a... Any suggestions on a good motherboard?"

Hmmmm, yep you should go Intel!


"Just the facts ma'am"

 

[Matisaro]

Hmmmm, yep you should go Intel!

Why, cause hes too stupid to realize that he has a 133fsb processor on a motherboard which does 100fsb?

Im surprised they accepted his 3 previous rma's.

To the main poster, use the pencil trick to unlock your athlon and then run it at 10x100.
You have a 100fsb motherboard and should not have bought a 133fsb cpu.


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[Crashman]

So, basically, you got a Thunderbird 1000 "B", meaning the multiplier is locked at 7.5x and it's supposed to run a 133MHz FSB. Then you put it on a board that doesn't actually support a 133MHz FSB (even though it was supposed to) and you blame the CPU? No, the KT133 did NOT support 133MHz FSB. And raising your mutliplier to 10x will NOT work as long as your CPU is "locked". You put yourself in a bad situation.

Have you heard of the "Pencil trick"? This involves connecting all the "L1" bridges on the CPU with pencil marks so they look like this IIII instead of this ::::. It sounds like your only hope. You should be able to get your 10x multiplier to work if you do this. In fact, you might be surprized to find it works at an even higher multiplier, such as 12x, giving you 1200MHz!

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[Matisaro]

Matisaro and crashman, we came we saw, one of us insulted the questioner while assisting, the other calmly and nicely posted assistance, and we conquered.

::high five::

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[lhgpoobaa]

LoooooL

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[Crashman]

LOL, I guess I'm good for that! Of course, your way works also.

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[kusek]

Crash is right. If you are scared of the "pencil trick" and bought it locally you might be able to swap it for the 100 MHz version. Otherwise, connecting the L1 bridges with a pencil will allow you to unlock the multiplier and up it to 10 which should give you at least a 1GHz (if not 1.2) CPU

10 x 100MHz bus = 7.5 x 133MHz(your m/b can't do) = 1000


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[Sir_Spunk]

Hey thanks for everyone's help...
Sorry i didn't get a chance to get back earlier.

The Chipset was the KT133A (it's the board w/ the 4 IDE slots) so it should clock to 133.

Also, someone mentioned that the KT133 is called that b/c it supports PC133 sdram, why would it support 133 ram if the board only clocks to 100?

And I tried the pencil trick to no avail.

But anyway, i gave up on the system and pick up a P4 1.8a and a Gigabyte 8IGX and I could not be happier. Also picked up 512 MB PC333 DDR ram (though CL2.5) and it runs like a beeut.
Have it clocked to 2.4GHz w/ ram at 354MHz and it runs at 43 degrees w/ the standard heatsink fan. The multiplier is 16!

I try not to keep it going like that for too long, just nice to be able to do it and it loosens up the system quite nicely.

 

[Siddhartha]

Can anyone explain how this person could not get three cpus to post properly? Is this one of those my Athlon puts out too much heat so I am getting a P4 1.6A and overclock the heck out of that mofo type of story?

"Just the facts ma'am"

 

[kusek]

I'm guessing he never updated to the latest bios. I have the KT133A also. It worked OK after that but I will never buy a Via chipset again.

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[phsstpok]

A7V had KT133.

A7V133 had KT133A.

Both boards had four IDE connectors.

Congrats on the new system and succesful overclock. (By the way, your multiplier is locked at 18).

<b>I have so many cookies I now have a FAT problem!</b>

 

[phsstpok]

Good tech, bad tech! Is this like "good cop, bad cop"? LOL!

Bring back the theme song Freddie!

<b>I have so many cookies I now have a FAT problem!</b>

 

[Crashman]

d00d, the multiplier for the 1.8A is 18. And 18x133=2400. And I know your at 133 because you said your memory is at 354, which is a DDR number meaning 177MHz, which is the 3:4 FSB/RAM ratio at 133MHz FSB.

<font color=blue>By now you're probably wishing you had asked more questions first!</font color=blue>

 

[lhgpoobaa]

heh. the guy was using the KT133, it didnt support 133fsb. plain and simple. thats why his cpu's wouldnt work. reading of the motherboard manual could have told him that.

motto of the story: when in doubt, blame the technology

<b>Before visiting THG i was a clueless noob. Now im still clueless, but look at my nice title!<b>

 

[Matisaro]

heh. the guy was using the KT133, it didnt support 133fsb. plain and simple. thats why his cpu's wouldnt work. reading of the motherboard manual could have told him that.

motto of the story: when in doubt, blame the technology

but it had 4 ide ports, and the big monitor allows faster internet surfing.

::rolls eye:: enjoy the p4 man, you should have got a dell.


bet hes reusing the pc133 ram for his spanking new blazing p4 heh.


PS: the kt133 runs the ram faster than the fsb.

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[shallowbaby]

Matisaro, publicly laughing at people isn't what someone of a "forum fixture" should be doing. shame on all you other people who provide no help whatsoever... only coming into the discussion to ridicule him..(crashman is without doubt excused)

anyways, as for the last 2 or 3 comments, didn't you ppl read that his chipset is: KT133A.. that's KT133A, again KT133A.. i don't follow chipsets, nor am well educated as most of you "assume" to be, but I know KT133A is not KT133!!!

for the original poster, sorry I can't help you.. but to make you feel any better, I bought 3 amd cpu's before switching to intel now.. very happy since. (sorry I had to vent a little)

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[Hoolio]

look at his first post: he actually said he had a kt133.

The only way an error like that would occur is it his bios did not accept such a chip. He should have changed the board not the chip!

Also people say they would never bye via again. I have not had trouble with via chipsets however while I was running a medium sized network (150-200 pc's), we had sis and ALI chipsets, the boards were utter rubbish.

I have had many compatability problems with ALI and sis but not Via. Have via earnt this reputation because of unstable chipsets of times long ago, (like amd and their chips?).

I am just interested to find out why.......
(no chiptrooper replies please, responses should be backed up with actualy fact, i am not taking silly replies.)