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July 26, 2002 3:03:11 PM

I want to buy any one of the below system, please kindly suggest which system has better performance in term of daily office use and playing common games.
1. P4 1.8GA, 2thmax 4G4A, IBM 80G/ATA100
2. ATHALON 2000+, A7V333AU, MILKYSTAR G4 MX420 64MDDRAM, MAXTOR 80G/ATA133.
Both system with Samsung PC2700 256M DDR-RAM, Liteon CDRW401248.
The price for both system in our region are similar.

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July 26, 2002 3:34:37 PM

The Athlon system will perform better, and have better graphical performance. Personaly, I'd avoid using a GF4 MX420, as it's got SDR instead of DDR, so it's memory starved. Also, there is an 80 GB Western Digital Drive that has 8MB of cache that is much faster than them ATA133 Maxtor (ATA133 isn't realy used, as ATA100 limits haven't been reached). The Intel I845G's graphics controler is barely a true 3D chip from what I've seen in a few reviews.

Just a few tips.

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July 26, 2002 3:44:28 PM

he's doing office work dude lol. Personaly he should go for the ATI Radeon 9000 Pro. It's 99 dollars!

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July 27, 2002 1:31:52 AM

System 1 will overclock very well, but system 2 will beat the Intel at stock speeds, and should cost a bit less. Overall, they are both good, but ditch the Geforce4 mx, it's an advanced piece of junk. At least get something decent...here, for the same price...Radeon 7500, Geforce2 Ti, Sis Xabre 400. Thereya go, already better than the Geforce4 mx (none other than a Geforce2 mx with "some" enhancements).

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July 27, 2002 9:12:00 AM

"System 1 will overclock very well, but system 2 will beat the Intel at stock speeds, and should cost a bit less. Overall, they are both good, but ditch the Geforce4 mx, it's an advanced piece of junk. At least get something decent...here, for the same price...Radeon 7500, Geforce2 Ti, Sis Xabre 400. Thereya go, already better than the Geforce4 mx (none other than a Geforce2 mx with "some" enhancements). "

If you are going to dis the g4mx at least try to give it some competition. It would beat the g2 ti the radeon 7500 and the xabre has crappy support and drivers. I mean if you are going to suggest a better card at least say the radeon 9000 which is already priced at below $100 on pricewatch or perhaps a G3 Ti 200.
July 27, 2002 10:10:48 AM

Yeah gf3ti200 is better than the gf4mx.


Grab a ti4200 and be done with it.

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July 27, 2002 1:45:06 PM

I wonder how the R9000 compares to a GF3 Ti200? The R8500 waa above the Ti500 even, the R9000 is under the R8500.... I wonder how those 2 compare.

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July 27, 2002 2:18:16 PM

The Geforce2 ti can be found for less than $40, a steal in my opinion for a decent vid card. It beats the Gf4 mx 420 in all benchmarks, due to DDR advantage. The Radeon 7500 with the Catalyst drivers are plenty stable, and only costs about $65. I'm reccomending the Xabre from benchmarks i've read, i'm considering buying one for fun, and to play around with it in a spare computer i'm building. Beats the Geforce440Mx in most benchmarks. If he's going to limited gaming, he doesn't need a DirectX 8.1 compliant card (albiet the Xabre), unless he plans on playing future games.

Then i'd say, go for a Gf3 ti200, yes. Or even the Radeon 8500le, or Radeon 9000.

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July 27, 2002 2:20:44 PM

Thank you for your opinion. Personally, I like P4, but do you know the 845G graphic is similar to which class of graphic chips? ATI Rage,TNT 2, g2 mx200, g2 mx400, g4 mx440...
how about adding g4 mx440 to both system. What do you think?
Some of my friend suggest that g4 mx400 is better then ATI radeon 7500, Do you think so?
July 27, 2002 2:23:27 PM

The Geforce4 mx is nothing more more than an upgraded Geforce2, it's not worth buying for the extra cost. The i845g performs along the lines of a Geforce2 Mx100/200. If you are going Geforce4 mx440 or Radeon 7500, i'd have to suggest the r7500.

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July 27, 2002 2:26:29 PM

It's probably in the ball park of a GF2 MX200, maybe worse... I really wouldn't suggest using the integrated video. Not good at all. If you're gonna get a MX440 (I haven't been following their prices,) but I think they're around $80 right? If so, then you may as well get a R8500 OEM. They're only $9x and they'll blow both the MX440 and R7500 out of the water. Go to newegg.com (if you're an US resident) and look for a R8500LE OEM. The thing is look for the one that's rated @ 250/275 and has 3.3ns RAM. Read the user reviews and it'll tell you. The card is actually a R8500 OEM, not LE.

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July 27, 2002 2:40:30 PM

Triplex XABRE PRO/128MDDR HKD695.
MAGICPRO G4 MX440/64MDDR HKD645.
ATI RADEON 7500/64MDDR HKD525.
ELSA G2 TI/64MDDR HKD700.
would you suggest which is more suitable for office and common game user.
July 27, 2002 2:41:55 PM

Ati Radeon 7500 64mb DDR

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July 27, 2002 2:49:46 PM

Milkystar ATI RADEON8500/64MDDR HKD790. I think I will have a the right choice.
But If I go for athalon 2000+ with above display card,
I would like to have usb2.0, 6CH audio out. within US$120
which mainboard would you suggest?
July 27, 2002 2:57:57 PM

Ok, yeah, a R8500 would be good. As for a mobo, the ASUS A7V333 has audio and USB 2.0 for ~$105USD. Good mobo.

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July 27, 2002 3:04:31 PM

thank you very much again.
July 27, 2002 3:14:11 PM

Concerning overclock.
If the athalon 2000+ with asus a7v333, I was told that it is very difficult to be overclock. I don't want to manipulate the CPU. If I change the clock frequency, ratio and voltage only, can I overclock it?
For similar functions (usb2.0, 6CH audio), is there any mainboard can overclock higher then the asus mainboard?
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July 27, 2002 4:45:07 PM

Aren't the GF1s & 2s DX7 and the GF3s & 4s DX8? If so that would imply very significant changes in the hardware design.
July 27, 2002 8:36:12 PM

Yes, but the Geforce4 mx IS a Geforce2 core, just with several enhancements. None of them being full directX 8 support. The only ones with full DirectX support are the Geforce3's, the titanium Geforce3's, and the titanium Geforce4's

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July 28, 2002 8:02:19 AM

I really hate Nvidia for making the Gf4 mx so handicapped. I mean sure not all games are direct x 8 yet but heck they will be. Gf4 mx is good for office used and if you play older games but for newer games don't bother.
July 28, 2002 1:26:07 PM

Hehehehe, yeah, that's what ATi's probably thinking. A value card for people who want DX8 support. The R9000's are priced well and compete in a market where nVidia has no equal. Also, it's quite good performing too. I mean, it's 30% better than MX440, so I'd say it's probably 10% better than a MX460 and they'll cost almost the same!

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July 28, 2002 4:13:24 PM

Or you can get a ti200 for less and be happy?

Or cough up 20 more bucks to get a ti4200?

the 9000 is poorly placed imo.(then again so is the entire gf4 mx line)

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July 28, 2002 4:16:06 PM

Or get a Radeon 8500 with 3.3ns RAM for $65US!

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July 28, 2002 4:38:38 PM

Wheres that?

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July 29, 2002 6:42:19 AM

Heck if I can get a 8500 for $65 I will buy another one!
July 29, 2002 2:55:52 PM

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Or get a Radeon 8500 with 3.3ns RAM for $65US

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if that exists...that would be the card that should have the title "Best Bang For The Buck"....
a card with the performance slightly below the gf4 ti4200 for the price of a gf2 mx400....

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