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August 21, 2002 9:39:46 AM

umm... whats up with that... when Intel came out with the 2.533Mhz, the price was way over $500 and ~$600 at some places!
with as much of the market that Intel has there is no need for them to do such things. that right there makes me freakin' mad.

now just like before, AMD has fair pricing on their CPUs. GO AMD GO... I'm wondering where the common sense in people has gone? Intel STILL has a larger share of the market! ahhh common sense man, common sense... where has it gone? do we have that many illiterate computer buyers? grrrrrrrrrrr...

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August 21, 2002 12:19:59 PM

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do we have that many illiterate computer buyers? grrrrrrrrrrr...

Yes, yes we do. :tongue:

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August 21, 2002 12:44:02 PM

there are amazing numbers of people that have trouble telling the difference between a mouse and a keyboard.

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August 21, 2002 4:21:46 PM

it has a lot to do with reliability and via. A lot of people in the enthuesiast market hates via. A lot of poeple never heard of amd and Intel has a bigger marketing compaign where amd has none.

as far as common sense, it has died along with honor, truth, and dignity.

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August 21, 2002 7:12:36 PM

well, thats where nvidia gives me hope. with nforce2, i hope they will give the AXP what it needs (MEMORY BANDWIDTH).

what i really want to see is a bench mark with nforce2, ddr400 @cas 2.0 with the AXP 2600+. now that would be fair. i want nvidia to **** via up and make them do something about their crap chipsets.

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August 21, 2002 7:15:32 PM

*crying*

why oh why... one has lots of buttons ant the other doesn't, the one with lots of buttons is the KEYBOARD!

you know poo, the sad thing is you're right *crying*

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August 21, 2002 9:00:52 PM

intel marketing

I have see twice a tv ad.Most of there marketing come from there own log intel inside from computer sold in all time.I every time i ask what is your computer a Pentium X and XXX megbytes of ram they dont the speed or the name of the ram the same goes for the hard drive.

The day i meet a goth queen that tell me Intel suck.I turn in a lemming to fill is need in hardware.
August 21, 2002 9:44:14 PM

Wait, just to make sure, the mouse is the thingymajig that I press buttons with letters and things come up on screen, and then the keyboard is this small thing with 2 buttons and a funky "growth" on top that turns....heard people call it a wheel. It also hurts my eyes when I stair at this funky red light that shoots out from the bottom.

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August 21, 2002 9:58:46 PM

Because the majority of customers here Pentium much more than they hear Athlon. If you walk into any large computer store(ie Best Buy, Circuit City, Compusa), most of their computers have the INTEL sticker on it. Also some companies such as Dell do not make any athlon system. So to sum it all up, Intel is more popular among the masses because their name is bigger.
August 21, 2002 10:31:31 PM

The whole Via chipsets stinks argument is so lame!!!!!!!!!!! I mean, take a look at the Pentium 4 chipsets from VIA. The memory performance there isn't bad at all. Of course VIA is using the same mem controller (mostly anyways) in it's Athlon offerings, so since the Athlon doesn't scale well with better fsb bandwith indicates that the Athlon is showing it's age, basically it's the cpu NOT the chipset there's anything wrong with... Why else would a 166 fsb athlon score so much worse with DDR333 than an Pee4 with the same type of memory both on VIA chipsets???

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August 21, 2002 10:49:48 PM

VIA chipsets stinks!!!
Use SiS chipsets if you want to get the job right!!

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August 21, 2002 10:53:40 PM

Why even put up with VIA's arogance when SiS does such a great job?

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August 21, 2002 11:34:22 PM

becauze as i have found out, stupiditiy is the second most abundant thing in the universe, just behind Hydrogen.

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August 22, 2002 12:35:11 AM

I've used plenty of via chipsets, and to bo honest, have never had an issue. Maybe it's a magic touch, cause when I config a comp and mess wid windows it rock stable and fast as hell (even win ME!). Personally, I like Via.

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August 22, 2002 2:01:07 AM

well... i'm not goig to say that via still sucks at stability, but i will say they can do much better as far as memory goes. also hate it when they push out a product without an "A" just to give them enuf time to make a better product. like many have mentioned here, sis among other companies gets the job done on the first try usually.

i will be very proud of nvidia with the nforce2 if it means AXP will get the same type of mem bandwidth as P4, tho the P4 does have a much higher latency, but then again it was made to work with that type of memory so...</font color=red>

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August 22, 2002 2:09:02 AM

thats why i hate what Intel does. so many places don't even offer the AXP so... there really isn't the need for Intel to **** people with every new product releas...

i don't know how many of you have worked in computer sales, but there are so many people out there that have Intel stamped in there brains and don't open up their minds what so ever. they are willing to pay more and get less product at the same time. many times i have asked them why not AMD? they say AMD is not good, and if i ask why again... guess what? they CAN NOT back up their statment and all they say is; look i just want a intel, are you going to help or not. erm... what other choice did i have.</font color=red>

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August 22, 2002 2:45:10 AM

That's Intels way of clearing out inventory.....Charge a premium for new, high clocked procs....people will still buy up the lesser clocked procs.....and Intel still has performance crown.

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August 22, 2002 3:04:06 AM

that justifies absolutely none of what they do.

and i don't care about the performance crown :p 

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August 22, 2002 4:34:00 AM

Via sucks. There's always something that it doesn't like or some other odd quik or something with them. I personally would stay away from them.

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August 22, 2002 4:37:08 AM

"well, thats where nvidia gives me hope. with nforce2, i hope they will give the AXP what it needs (MEMORY BANDWIDTH)."

It won't help much if any. The AXP's bandwidth is only 2.1 GBps. That is the PROCESSOR'S bandwidth, it has nothing to do with what chipset you have. So with all this "bandwidth" the nForce2 is suposed to give you, you need a processor like the P4 that can actually take advantage of it. Otherwise, it won't help any.

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August 22, 2002 12:49:36 PM

That's why we're hoping for a 166MHz FSB!! That'll really give AXP a boost. Most estimate ~10% on average increase, which is really quite a lot considering all it is is a FSB.

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August 22, 2002 1:37:45 PM

two facts:
1)Via wasn't able to make a good memory controler till now.
-->VIA SUCKS
2)Intel's new chipsets are as good as the ones from SiS. (I prefer the new i845G chipset with 400DDR)

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August 22, 2002 2:16:51 PM

via's new chipsets are very good, I have a gigabyte 7rxp board which uses the kt333 and have easily had 2 week uptimes with winxp or more (I often turn the computer off as it makes the room very hot when its on for a long time! )

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August 22, 2002 2:22:19 PM

845G doesn't support DDR400 you do realize.

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August 22, 2002 7:38:29 PM

What the heck?

Two surprises at once: I thought you left?
And secondly: You're not trashing AMD anymore?!

Ok I know you own an AXP1800, but man, the two above provide explanation to why I am surprised!

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August 22, 2002 7:41:01 PM

Chuck you know that the 166MHZ FSB thing is FUD. The AthlonXPs CAN and are DESIGNED to go up to 400MHZ FSB, and look here to see where the REAL performance lies:
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If Athlons can go there, up the cache to 512KB L2, use 256-bit datapaths, AMD has a chance with these cores. Add SSE2 in the game and you got Hammer's little brother: Pinky!

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August 22, 2002 7:41:30 PM

woah...!!!!...???

so are you here? me no see you for long time yo.

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