Grizely1

I come to this forum maybe once a week, for about 15 mins. all I see is posts from a lamer named grizely1 with bic lighter flaming skills.

You dont know me, and clueless to what I know or do. let alone what platforms I work with.

Just to clear things up, I am a Advanced Systems Integrator (have mommy define that for you).
I work with just about every network operating system. Im sure some you never even heard of. I am certified by too many manufactures, more than you could afford to buy frames for.

I am a field technician for Silicon Graphics Inc., I see just about everything in the course of a day.

I don't care weather you believe me or not. You will probably post something to the negative because your a retard like that.

I am not limited to the x86 platform, I work with all platforms with complete understanding of the hardware design.

Now that we cleared that up...

I see you grizely1 following every thread posted here commenting too many times on most. all spewing your AMD bs. you own one good for you. I am yet to see an educated post from you. Other than camping this forum you have no life it seems. I like how you copied and pasted my previous post. like a 7th grader would. just goes to show how much it hurts you. =)

As for the rest of you AMD lovers, there is SSE2 applications and hardware driver updates for SSE2 hitting the shelves every day. SSE2 is here now. there is no "in the future" or "a long wait". its here now! WTF you think AMD is moving that direction? to join Intel in a marketing blunder?? I don't think so.

Sorry if I don't respond quickly. Im very busy during the day. but thanks for taking the time to get to know me a lil better. you may not value my opinion and I really don't care. Im glad we got that straight =)

Definition of a flame? Scoll up.

its nice you took time to explain things.
However, as soon as you say "you AMD lovers", I take offense. You can't generalize like that. I happen to own an AMD. My machine currently being built is an AMD and I trully believe for many users AMD is now an ideal choice (although of course not for everybody).
But, I have owned Intels in the past, when they were superior, and my dad currently has an Intel notebook (there was even a Cyrix 586 snuck somewhere a long time ago.
I'll buy an Intel again when (if?) it is superior to AMD and other competitors (I'll even buy a cyrix if its better, but that's doubtful
I don't like being categorized an "AMD puppy" as soon as I make one argument for their superiority, just as much as I don't call anybody a "Intel lunatic" or whatever when they put down their arguments.
Point is, to each his own. I've seen you personally spam and use inappropriate and childish language a lot more often than Grizley. I even for the longest while doubted highly that you are a nervous, opiniated 14 year old (no offense intended to the usually intelligent 14 year olds here! trying to gain credibility lacking in his posts by adding imaginary employees and experience.
Maybe you should consider spell and grammar checking your posts, and using phrases like "your a retard" less (btw, should be you're), and people will take you more seriously... than again, maybe not...
This is first of your posts that I have taken seriously (although I admittedly haven't seen them all)
Personally, I don't take seriously anybody with cut and dry, circumstances-independent opinons. Anybody who thinks that Intel is ALWAYS better or that AMD is ALWAYS better isn't somebody whose advice I'll follow -- they are obviously partial to the point of self-dellusion and their advice is as meaningless as it is predictable.

As far as SSE2, it admittedly has a lot of potential (although P4 is a poor implementation of it, and cuts too many corners as Intel's chief engineer has admitted last week)
However, I'm not buying new applications while my current ones are working. The cycle to renew/replace 95% of my applications is measured at the very least in years... and in the meantime new processor should work with my existing applications well. That works just as well with large companies and corporations (and I work at a rather large company myself currently).
We're not gonna reinstall Peoplesoft or Oracle here now, or at any time in the near future; but we will be needing 500 or 1000 more workstations in 6 months. SSE2 doesn't come into equation...

Anyhoo, if you want less flames, flame less yourself. If you want more respect, offer more intelligent, helpful and supported advice, and be respectful of others. No amount of self-revelatory posts or important backgrounds will do it for you...

Good luck

btw, this wasn't meant to be a post defending grizely -- he is a big boy (big girl? and he can fend for himself. I'm saying you offended or have lost respect of a lot more people here than just him...

heh, we posted at the same time... I guess this has a potential to become a really busy thread... I'm OUTTA here before it gets too nasty

I don't know about Grizely1's conduct, but I can tell you that AMD processors are excellent. So are P3's (and P4's).
However, I tend to favor the AMD processors because they are cheaper and offer the same performance as the P3's.
Check www.pricewatch.com to see what I mean. Intel once owned the processor market, but AMD has lead in pure speed for over a year now, until the P4 came along.
Just my thoughts on this. I amnot an "AMD lover" or an "Intel lover" and I don't see why it makes a difference anyway. Go with whatever processor you prefer. Personally, I like AMD.

ahh... gotcha
well, we all learn something new every day

Mavis Beacon is a typing tutor.

Bandit - doing his best to be helpful

That must have taken you an hour or two to compose.
I am not a addict. Im glad you like my handle.

"We didn't get anything straight. I still think of you as a low life scum sucker, and have lost even more respect for you because of your starting personal flames"

I know you understand 100% where I am coming from after your complete breakdown of each line adding your lame response.

Next time grizely1 do not try to discredit, belittle, or talk down to people that you do not know. this thread probably never would have been.

Reserving 266Mhz FSB... not your post? oh.. ok... thats a different Grizely1... 17 total posts and 8 are yours. you responded to me withen 11 minutes.

That was off the list until someone replied to it, FUGGER. It's my post and I'm very anxious in wondering if I can get the 266MHz Thunderbird before Christmas (It is in 6 days, you know.)

as for this:

Please do not forget <i>YOUR</i> the one who has started this thread. Not me. I would have liked to forget your personal flames (yes I flamed a few times too, I admit it, but not as much as you), but it has gone too far.
You started this thread out of your own will, nobody forced you. <i>You</i> started this flame thread.

As for your comment "you responded to me within 11 minutes", I have no clue what you are talking about. It just so happens I got on the board 11 minutes after you did. Are coincidences wrong?

Actually it didn't take an hour or two to compose... I have a 160 word per minute typing average.

FUGGER, if you're willing to put this behind you, so am I. But we <i>both</i> have to stop this [-peep-].

whoa look dude! you just got yourself promoted to "newbie"!

keep up the good work on personal attacks

if you got some problem with Griz (who IMO is a nice guy alright), flame him, not us!

(btw, compared to some guy who would start a pure flaming + autobiography thread in a CPU discussion forum, I think the guy AmdMeltdown is actually pretty cool)

well enough of all this personal flaming. i thought we are here to talk about latest techs in computer hadrware.

with both grizley and fugger ready to get all this behind their Bs lets take the whole episode as a negative example of behaviour on such a forum. and see to it our conduct is not like this.

it disturbs all the members and might as well intimidate newcomers. lets use this forum as amicably as we can rather than getting our personal grudges here. i suggest such wannabes use the email of the concerned person and keep a track of all messages. interested members can request them for the logs and enjoy themselves.

btw many of us coming here work for large companies or work on latest state-of-art hardware, and thus have the moral right to opine about the things out there. and better not post our autobigraphys here, nobody really cares about that.

as far as favorism to Intel or AMD goes, its a matter of personal opinion and one should do his best to convince others. benchmarks on tomshardware, anandtech or cpureview and the like say a lot about them, and these guys DO have the moral right to talk about it. at least respect their opinions. nobody wants to see any message targetted to a individal, (even tom himself wasnt spared - ref: the post "Tom I have lost respect for you....." - we all know who posted that), but a healthy discussion on the subject.

to belittle one or look down on somebody (and bring that in public) is most comtemptous things, IMO, and should be avoided.

hope all of those who posted here (and that includes the two gladiators) get a lesson from this.

as one post said, eveyday we learn a new thing. lets learn to behave today.

girish

I'm dissapointed now. I thought my message was quite humorous, especially in light of all the bickering. Nobody made any comment about my message. The most important part though, is that you enjoyed it, I hope it did.

Oh, your post is hilarious, don't worry about that

maybe we need something like that once in a while to break the tension

Thanks guys, you made my day.

Actually girish, <i>FUGGER</i> never said anything about putting it behind him (yet. he hasnt posted a reply). I have suggested it and eagerly await his decision.

And don't complain "You're on this board all the time", because I'm posting from work.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Grizely1 on 12/20/00 12:24 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

and use proper cooling! :-)

Hmmmm beer.
That reminds me, its happy hour!!
Gotta go

Ummm.. Beer.. I bet if I drank enough, I might actually gain the courage to take a solder gun to this duron and close those damned bridges GOOD!

Then again.. Maybe I better lay off the beer this year.....

I find this all very amusing. It's quite ironic that a flame thread could pick up this many replies in 2 days if everyone on this board is anti-flame. Excuse me, I have to go now as my sides are about to split.

Yep I am a consultant Programmer and my Home office has PI, PII, K6-2, K7 all working quite well together.....

M

one of the first UK T-Bird users....

Fugg. hasn't said anything worth while on his other posts up til now; somehow I doubt he'll start anytime soon. Since I doubt he'll do it, I apologise to Grizely for fugg's ignorance. I hope everyone can read his posts and realise exactly what not to write.

"Are you saying that I can dodge bullets?"

I love the begining of this thread. Fugger hasn't changed since his first posts....

<font color=red>Amd or Intel? Who cares?? Not me...</font color=red>

I try not to ask the same questions that others have. I was looking for something else when this popped up. Just funny...

<font color=red>Amd or Intel? Who cares?? Not me...</font color=red>

I think it is your fault that Fugger hangs around here. He is still trying to get the better of you (hasn't yet).

<font color=blue>This is a Forum, not a playground. Treat it with Respect.</font color=blue>

You know fugger, If you didn't continually pull stuff out of your ass, you might have a little more credibility here.

i.e.
Heat Sink fans having an expected lifetime < 2 years
sub 2 minute linux kernel compiles on a 486
claims of hundreds of personally experienced software incompatibilities with AMD CPUs (of which you've showed us exactly none).

That, and you never actually contribute. You just jump into a thread and spew off some anti-AMD tripe and call some people names. What's the point of that kind of behavior?

If you really have all that knowledge & experience, I'm sure you could do better then that.



<i>Cognite Tute</i>
(Think for Yourself)