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THG/Borsti posted a nice <A HREF="http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4263880" target="_new">OC system on Madonion</A>

R9700 showing its power.

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3700 mghz on the P4 most in the top 10 use P4 around 3000 mghz.R300 will go faster with drive err.. maybe nor due that like Geforce 4 the optimization was allready made.I wonder who hardware will go over 20000.

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9729MHZ FSB? err whats going on here..... 18000+ marks = VERY IMPRESSIVE!!! wow.....i cant even reach 8000 :frown:

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yea that FSB number is fuk'ed up. I click the link and it compares my system to theirs... my 1.6GHz AXP looks tiny to that 3.6GHz monster...and their video score is 7800K higher than mine. I wonder what they cooled it with?

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Liquid Nitrogen.


Anyway, the CPU actually has little effect on 3D Mark because almost all of the gfx is processed by the video card these days.

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"9729MHZ FSB? err whats going on here..... 18000+ marks = VERY IMPRESSIVE!!! wow.....i cant even reach 8000 "

I can't even reach 2000. It's because I have a low end budget video card.

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9729MHz fsb... they gotta be shhitin me!

that's stupid if i ever seen stupid before.

ok let me try to rationalized why these fools used that number.

my belief is this:
9729mhz maybe actually 9729/2 = 4864.5
divide: 4864.5 by 8 ... yes my trusted 8 again
you get 4864.5/8 = 608MT/s

so their FSB is really 608MT/s. that's 608MHz like most of you like to call it. they increased it from 533 to 608MHz (look at the MB, it's a ASUS P4T533-C)!!!

so next time you see something that ridiculous, don't say "omg that's awesome", say "wtf is happening here"

<font color=green> there's more to life than increasing its speed -Ghandi</font color=green><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by shallowbaby on 08/23/02 11:41 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 

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Even on the 533MHz board the default FSB is "133" x 4 = 533. 608 quad pumped (P4 quad pumps its bus) would be 608 x 4 = 2.4Ghz FSB.. totally not possible!

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yes the cpu is at 3624MHz.

first of all, the fsb is quad pump.
which means that 608 i told you about is the fsb

which means that it's at 608/4 = 152MHz

you made me do more math..lol errr... so with 152MHz you can have a multiplier of say, 24, hence 152*24=3628. dammit i'm wrong, i'm such a moron
hrmmm, if they used 151MHz with 24 multiplier, 151*24=3624.

of course i could be completely wrong and the article could be completely false as well.

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It's AFTER they do that "X4" thing that they come up with that number. But since the multiplier is locked, I don't think that the actual bus speed is 2.4 GHtz.

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I somehow *highly* doubt that it's possible to push the p4 fsb to that level. In fact, it seems quite impossible. I believe that it's a mistake, or was put on the page on purpose.

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of course it's possible, only 133 to 152mhz dude.
just takes a little planning and skill.

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another thing,

expect P4 NW with 667MHz FSB!

that's 667/4 = 166MHz, what's not possible?

also, if you follow my other posts, try P4 NW or Prescott at 800MHz FSB!

that's 800/4 = 200MHz.

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The FSB is an error

The used phase change cooling on a 2.8B

R9700's filling the orb, look now and it gives you good idea how stock machines stack up.



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Okay, so you've came up with a 152FSB, fair enough. I could even believe a 200MHz bus. This still doesn't explain why the number 9729 is listed instead of 152 in the FSB column. All the other systems in the hall of fame the use highly overclocked P4's still have a normal FSB numeral of 160, etc... not freakin 9729! lol a seriously fuk'ed up # :)

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wait up gigabytes version it better overclocker and hercules will use 350 mghz DDR i wonder if they use slower timing.Waiting is the good policy here for more information driver update maybe there driver juste work well with benchmark and not with others Dx6 game or anything like that or the still juice in the card right is effectiness on fill rate and multi texturing is not at full speed also.

A yes 9000 FSB is a detect error also the rule for webmaster they cannot use unrelease produce madonion is again it and also intel.

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Okay, so you've came up with a 152FSB, fair enough. I could even believe a 200MHz bus. This still doesn't explain why the number 9729 is listed instead of 152 in the FSB column. All the other systems in the hall of fame the use highly overclocked P4's still have a normal FSB numeral of 160, etc... not freakin 9729! lol a seriously fuk'ed up # :)
i do agree that that number is "fuk'ed up". lol. refer to my early posts and why i had to derive the actual fsb clock.... BUT if you think of it "outside the box" it can report "theoretical maximum bandwidth" as well.

there are three different ways to say DDR266, why not FSB as well?

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shallowbaby, i knew that 9000+fsb was not possible... and when i said "omg its awesome" i was talkin about the mars...18000+ marks is really awesome

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If you guys read the AnandTech article, it really shows off R9700's o/cing poweress, even with the ~110 million transistors on a .15u core.

Hey, the FSB number is messed up, sometimes people get 0 for that, just accept it.

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shallowbaby, i knew that 9000+fsb was not possible... and when i said "omg its awesome" i was talkin about the mars...18000+ marks is really awesome

yes grassapa, i wasn't directing that comment at you. i just wanted people to not always take everything at face value (esp when it's that much overpriced) and think a little more... indeed the 18000+ is impressive.

<font color=green> there's more to life than increasing its speed -Ghandi</font color=green><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by shallowbaby on 08/24/02 10:08 PM.</EM></FONT></P>