XP t-bred X Palomino

well, you got most of it right. the thorough bread runs much cooler than the old xp. the 2700 is going to be out very soon.

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definately the XP1700+ tbred!
unlike the faster tbreds of the first revision, the XP1700+ runs at a nice low voltage of 1.5v. very cool, and they overclock predictably up to XP2200+ speeds.

course what would be better is to find a XP1700+ from the tbred 'B' batch. but i doubt they exist... (yet or ever)

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I'm with the other two on this one.

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I've actually not even seen a XP1700+ tbred yet. Only XP2200+.

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Why do you ask this if the choice is obvious!
A chip that runs cooler, less voltage and costs already low as hell, is something not to miss if you were choosing between it and an old one!

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Eden, if you're not OCing and your cooling is enough to support either, then what difference does it make?

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I kinda figured if you'd get one that is still better even if you don't notice, would be a good thing!

Yer too pessimistic old timer! :wink:

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I have been searching everywhere to find an 1800 Thoroughbred. I emailed AMD and they said as of June 10, all 1800's are being fabricated w/ the T-bred core. Everywhere I call though says they only have the 1800 in the palomino. Does anyone know where I can order an 1800 T-bred?? PLEASE HELP!

Well instead of making a new thread with my question, Ill put it here..I dont know my core in my 1800+.... I think I heard that all of the differnent cores have different model numbers under wcpuid... Anyway, from this screenshot, can you tell which I have? Thanks!
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Are you saying you don't know if you own a Palomino or Tbred?
If not, if what you want to know, the stepping, well check the box it came in, or where you bought it. The first Tbreds, aka Tbred As like the XP1800+, are typically called with the AXDA stepping.
Otherwise to recognize, you need to check the CPU itself by dismounting the HSF, but watch out!
The best way though is that, since you can see the size of the core and easily determine.

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That is not a T-bred core. The easiest way to tell is to look at the core voltage. Yours says 1.76V. 1800's with the T-bred core have a 1.5 core voltage...

Athlon XP Palomino Core is "Model 6" while T-Bred A Athlon XP is "Model 8". I don't know what is the model of the Thoroughbred B...
...also the die of the processor are different (Palomino is square and the t-bred is rectangle.

I just thought of something, perhaps the Model 6 refers to layer amount?
Tbred A has 8, and is also refered as Model 8. Perhaps the new Tbreds are Model 9s, with the AXP 1700+ Tbred being Model 8. Though doublecheck the voltage to be sure.

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