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a b $ Windows 7
June 3, 2010 4:44:01 AM

Hello,
I run ATI radeon HD4650 with win7 ultimate.My problem is that all games crash after some time.However games like shift and crysis crash right after loading.Games like GTA4 and Assassins creed 2 run for two hours approx.
thanks

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a b $ Windows 7
June 3, 2010 10:55:44 AM

Please list full system specs. Also download something like CPU HWmonitor to check what you system temperatures are after gaming for an hour or so.
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Anonymous
a b $ Windows 7
June 3, 2010 3:58:18 PM

thank you for the reply(s),
my system specs are,
ram - 2 GB transcend
video card - ATi radeon HD4650
processor - 2.93 GHZ core 2 duo E7500
HDD - seagate 500 GB
PSU - cooler master 450w
motherboard - intel DG31PR


i will post the temperature in a while
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June 4, 2010 4:45:38 AM

1. Remove any unnecessary hardware from the computer. Disconnect any Universal Serial Bus (USB) devices and printers, and remove the network adapter, sound card, serial adapters, and so on.
2. If you continue to receive this error message, you may need to flash the BIOS on the computer's motherboard. Refer to the manufacturer of your computer or the Web site for the motherboard for information about how to do this
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Anonymous
a b $ Windows 7
June 4, 2010 9:08:54 AM

@Ricky_Critic
i removed the bluetooth dongle , usb drives. Still the same , no change.
And i dont get error message , the games just crash abruptly to the desktop.
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Anonymous
a b $ Windows 7
June 4, 2010 6:03:37 PM

@ zipzoomflyhigh
yes i did , it also didnt do any good.
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June 4, 2010 11:11:43 PM

Hello dilipk,

Possibly video card drivers? It seems like hardware issues, you will need to physically take out the hardware(e.g. sound cards, tv tuner, etc.) just start system with only the bare motherboard, video, ram and hard drive.

Make sure you have the latest drivers, but not beta drivers.

Microsoft does have an official Windows 7 Support Forum located here http://tinyurl.com/9fhdl5 . It is supported by product specialists as well as engineers and support teams. You may want to check the threads available there for additional assistance and support.

John M
Microsoft Windows Client Team
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Anonymous
a b $ Windows 7
June 5, 2010 1:16:21 PM

@ windows7guy
thank you for the reply.
I've been having this problem for about week, so when this prob first came up i removed my video card and took it to the manufacturer service centre and had it checked out , it had no problems.Could the problem be with the PCIe Slot/motherboard ?

I have no extra sound cards, tv tuners.

As for the drivers , they are the latest ones (version 10.5) downloaded from ATI website.
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June 5, 2010 2:09:33 PM

Got the same problem and listed it in another topic, Since I can't quote my topic here because that would be inappropriate I'm just going to tell you right away the following:

- It's not your CPU/GPU temperature
- It's not your Drivers

What could be the problems are a bad motherboard, incompatible hardware (they just don't work well together), windows 7 that's messed up with compatability with some hardware.

Good luck, I think we're in the same 'game' here.
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a b $ Windows 7
June 7, 2010 10:17:45 AM

The Windows update you mentioned refers to a possible security flaw, not a stability issue per se. Also, just blaming the problem on a Windows 7 graphical issue doesn't account for the fact that some of OP's games run for two hours before crashing.
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a b $ Windows 7
June 7, 2010 11:03:20 AM

Herr Koos I agree, the ATI cards are showing some of the same signs of mass production as Nvidea, the 5xxx series esp, but FWIW first try this: Start, Accessories, Run(right click, run as admin), fsutil behavior query memoryusage, should return a =0, type fsutil behavior set memoryusage 2, reboot the computer, but really it may speed up some apps but the fact you have a hard crash makes me think you are having H/W problems, and the vid card at the top of the list , I copied this from a FS forum, the guy was suffering all kinds of problems logged in with a computer with a Nvidea card and had no problems,so he did some more checking and I copied this,"Currently I suspecting problems related to CPUs having 4 cores or more" also look here:
http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=260&th... checking around more I found the 4650 AGP was notorious for this kind of crashing, the architecture is the same so----


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a b $ Windows 7
June 7, 2010 1:31:06 PM

I'm not saying the problem doesn't exist. I'm saying it doesn't adequately explain OP's symptoms.
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a b $ Windows 7
June 7, 2010 4:05:54 PM

Zipzoom where did you get that quote, I'd like to read that article, I am running Win 7 Ultimate 32bit and have no problems(as I smack the wooden desk with a hammer)but then I am using a GTX260+
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a b $ Windows 7
June 7, 2010 4:37:29 PM

No, I have no idea what the cause of the problem is. I apologise if you think I'm trying to sound smart. I had an opinion, I posted it. Feel free to continue the debate without me.
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June 7, 2010 4:40:39 PM

number13 said:
Zipzoom where did you get that quote, I'd like to read that article, I am running Win 7 Ultimate 32bit and have no problems(as I smack the wooden desk with a hammer)but then I am using a GTX260+



What does having a GTX 260+ have to do with the possibility that the crashes are indeed due to a windows 7 issue?

Also, are are 64bit OS more likely to crash than 32bits?
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a b $ Windows 7
June 7, 2010 6:16:17 PM

Nor does it explain how I'm able to game on my systems with no problems whatsoever... desktop and laptop... both with nVidia graphics.
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June 7, 2010 6:55:56 PM

@Number13 I've got a GTX260 as well and I DO have this problem.
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June 7, 2010 7:02:07 PM

Oh great ... new system here havn't hooked it up yet:

2, 260 twin frozr's sli and 7 x64
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a b $ Windows 7
June 7, 2010 8:42:31 PM

No... 64-bit should be less likely to crash since signed drivers are a requirement and non just a suggestion.
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a b $ Windows 7
June 8, 2010 2:43:02 PM

No, smartass, I don't have this thread confused with another.

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"A new Windows 7 graphics flaw has been exposed that could expose users of the 64-bit OS to experience non-responsive systems, restarts and unauthorized code execution."
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Sounds like graphics stability problems to me. Especially when their recommended fix is to disable Aero, a graphical interface.


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I'm not saying the problem doesn't exist. I'm saying it doesn't adequately explain OP's symptoms.


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Nor does it explain how I'm able to game on my systems with no problems whatsoever... desktop and laptop... both with nVidia graphics.


Now if that isn't sufficient explanation of my point, then you're not as smart an ass as you appear. I have 2 Windows 7 64-bit computers that run perfectly without crashing. Both are running Aero. So while the problem you state may exist, it doesn't fully explain why this doesn't occur all the time. Granted, I'm using older hardware (8800GT in the desktop and 9600M in the laptop), but I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not. (Most people having problems are running newer graphics cards).

Besides... you're on Vista... so your lack of issues isn't relevent to this thread. :p 

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a b $ Windows 7
June 8, 2010 2:45:57 PM

Children please keep it civil Cybil
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a b $ Windows 7
June 8, 2010 4:34:34 PM

He started it. :p 
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a b $ Windows 7
June 8, 2010 8:57:43 PM

OH BOY
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June 8, 2010 9:02:43 PM

[Cat bares claws ... sharp teeth show through raised lips ... loud screeching heard off in the distance]

rreeeeooooowwwwwwwwwww :ouch: 
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a b $ Windows 7
June 8, 2010 9:45:27 PM

good one pffft, pfft
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a b $ Windows 7
June 8, 2010 9:48:17 PM

Zoron, are you using 64bit 7
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a b $ Windows 7
June 9, 2010 5:04:41 PM

Yep... never bother with 32-bit anymore... probably never run 32-bit Windows again.

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This post is about someones who's ISNT running great, and there's a theme here, there are about 20 people on this forum as I type with the same exact issue with Win7, and it's amazing how MS themselves issue a statement confirming graphical issues and for some reason YOU still don't believe it because yours runs great.


Apparently you don't read... or at least your comprehension is lacking...

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So while the problem you state may exist, it doesn't fully explain why this doesn't occur all the time.


Notice how I didn't deny the existance of the problem... only that MS's statement on the issue doesn't provide enough explanation. No need to take it personally... as it is MS's statement, not yours. Unless, of course, you work for Microsoft...
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a b $ Windows 7
June 9, 2010 5:19:20 PM

and you have a ATI card and problems, ok, MS says there is a problem now you know it's the drivers(like always) FWIW, if ATI ever makes stable drivers Nvidea might as well close their doors
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a b $ Windows 7
June 9, 2010 6:18:32 PM

People with nVidia cards have had issues as well. I don't know if it's a common problem with newer graphics cards or not... as my cards are now 2 or 3 generations old.
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a b $ Windows 7
June 9, 2010 7:16:39 PM

and I am a general user, quit doing 3DS and Maya, still a little PS, so I am using x32 and Nvidea, GTX260+, to me stability is the most improtant thing, such is life
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a c 215 $ Windows 7
June 9, 2010 9:10:13 PM

I'm a little skeptical that an announced, but not yet patched security hole in the Windows 7 graphics system is responsible. The mere existence of the flaw does not mean it is responsible for the issues the OP is experiencing. I'm also curious about these other threads that detail the same problem (that weren't confirmed by the thread starter as caused by something else). Could you link us to a few of those zipzoom?

Perhaps there is an overclock and / or voltage increase on the PCI-E bus that's causing this? Or perhaps a faulty power supply?

I'm open to the graphics security flaw idea being the culprit, but I won't believe it until a patch is released and the OP here confirms that the issue has stopped after installing said forthcoming patch.

For the record, I am patch current on Windows 7 x64 running a eVGA GTX 295, and am not having this issue myself.
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a b $ Windows 7
June 9, 2010 10:44:10 PM

too many ATI users have the same problem, few, but some Nv users also have it---
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June 10, 2010 3:48:52 PM

If i can quote my own topic I will. So far no response to it, eventhough it's very detailed.
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October 6, 2010 8:55:11 PM

The_Prophecy said:
I'm a little skeptical that an announced, but not yet patched security hole in the Windows 7 graphics system is responsible. The mere existence of the flaw does not mean it is responsible for the issues the OP is experiencing. I'm also curious about these other threads that detail the same problem (that weren't confirmed by the thread starter as caused by something else). Could you link us to a few of those zipzoom?

Perhaps there is an overclock and / or voltage increase on the PCI-E bus that's causing this? Or perhaps a faulty power supply?

I'm open to the graphics security flaw idea being the culprit, but I won't believe it until a patch is released and the OP here confirms that the issue has stopped after installing said forthcoming patch.

For the record, I am patch current on Windows 7 x64 running a eVGA GTX 295, and am not having this issue myself.


With all due respect, as zipzoomflyhigh mentioned it is VERY suspicious how everyone is having these issues with Windows 7, independently of video card (I have a Radeon HD5670 but I see many people with Nvidia and other ATI models, different specs etc...all in common is the OS). I am using exactly the same computer I used in the past with Vista. In Vista games ran fine (the odd crash every few months but nothing regular ans systematic as I experience now). As soon as I formatted the disk and installed Windows 7 home premium fresh, I cannot play anything more advanced than tetris from Mr Pajitnov without crashing.

So I am sorry but this is quite clearly a problem with Windows 7...or to say differently now Microsoft is expecting everyone else (Game programmers, Video card manufacturers) adapt to their changes instead of producing something that works and is compatible with what is out there in the market already.

Shame on them
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a b $ Windows 7
October 6, 2010 10:53:32 PM

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