Just measured my older AMD XP1900+ with my newer AMD XP 2200+ and there is indeed a 4mm size difference (per Tom's info). Is it possible it is 0.13 but doesn't have the optimizations of the "B" variant?
Koolance uses a mix of water and (as far as I can tell) anti-bacterial solution. 100% water would provide better cooling properties, but the bacterial build up over time would negate the efficiency of 100% water. I haven't tried more than 200Mhz overclock yet.
Not being out in terms of retail?? I can assure you there are many retail outlets in San Jose/Santa Clara/Fremont that get test units that DO make it to consumers. Tom is not the only one with access to "B" processors.
Eden, "...and you only got 200MHZ out of it." why the confrontational attitude - drop it please it serves no useful purpose.
Is it possible it is 0.13 but doesn't have the optimizations of the "B" variant?
All T-Breds are .13
Not being out in terms of retail?? I can assure you there are many retail outlets in San Jose/Santa Clara/Fremont that get test units that DO make it to consumers.
You don't have a "B". And good luck getting one when they're officially released. You can assure me by telling me where I could get one......if theres "many" retail outlets it should be easy for you. Money is of no concern, so lemme know.
possibly that AMD isnt aiming to have the highest performance cpu, rather concentraiting on mainstream speeds?
amd doesnt run as fast due to core differences.
the first tbreds were somewhat design limited, needing higher voltages and wernt OC friendly.
take your pick :smile:
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I want to know what that comment was directed at........It's as out of place as my 90 yr. old alcoholic smoker reference. Or like saying my AMD systems don't crash when gaming during a home studio debate :smile:
Thanks for the attempt at clarification btw. I'll choose C.....and your guess is as good as mine.
No, it's a review site. AMD gives its chips to persons who are known to honor the NDA, and know will not go out auctioning their chips. How many samples do you think AMD put out the door to reviewers, OEMs, and Manu's for testing? I'd say 50. And if you had a "B", do you think you would've paid regular prices before official release? C'mon. What do you think a limited quantity processor (going by anything limited) costs? Chip so unavailable that you're the only one that Ive even seen question whether or not you own one or not....And then claim that retailers have em. Most others are just asking when are they coming out.
There go some other reasons to doubt you have a B.
Retailers -- ok system manufacturers/assemblers or OEMs such as Dell, HP, Compaq, Asus... etc. etc. I often don't discriminate between them, but I guess techincally most defined retailers are folks like Fry's, CompUSA, BestBuy, etc.
"...do you think you would've paid regular prices before official release?"
I never stated what I paid?
"I'd say 50" and how did you arrive at this number?
So one honors their NDA by publically writing up information about it on their web site? I prefer to call it leaked marketing & free advertisement.