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When does the Athlon XP 2600+ come out?

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September 22, 2002 9:49:52 PM

when will we be able to buy the XP 2600+ thro retail? everywhere i go seems to avoid this question, please help.

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September 22, 2002 11:23:26 PM

It is because they are not available and most likely won't be until mid-to-late October. So if the 2200+ isn't enough for you, and the misleading delays of AMD have you down; get a reasonably priced P4 2.66 or 2.8GHz :o )
September 22, 2002 11:35:38 PM

If you go to AMD's website, it says they are now shipping the 2600+. it's been on the site for 3 weeks now, yet there's not one CPU in sight. As nja said, you probably won't see one till october.

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September 23, 2002 12:45:41 AM

The few places I've looked at all have an eta of the 1st of the month. So you're looking at 8-14 days before you can probably get your hands on one.

I'm waiting for them to hit OEM as well, then again I'm also waiting to see if my KR7A mainboard will fully support it as well.


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September 23, 2002 1:17:40 AM

We'll see about that. If I could, I would bet money that it won't be available on the 1st. Maybe I'll eat my words, but knowing AMD and their delays, I doubt that.
September 23, 2002 1:40:15 AM

ahaha, something tells me ur a fierce Intel fan, nja469. the 2600+ is much betta for it's value than a p4 :-P
September 23, 2002 2:02:57 AM

Hey, if you dont mind waiting then wait. If intel keeps their high prices, then there is no point in spending an extra 200-300 on a proccessor that just barely out performs it. Any wayz, dont get a 2.66 or 2.8, they are not nearly as overclockable as the 2.5 with 100 mhz FSB. Either way, check out NetZip's Ebay auctions, they are realy cheap prices on most stuff. I mean relatively speaking, 235 is not a low price for an AMD 2400+ but, its a good start.

If a CPU can be overclocked, try and overclock it. Do this always and forever, unless, of coarse, you have a POS ecs motherboard. In that case, thank god it runs.
September 23, 2002 2:05:32 AM

ahaha, something tells me ur a fierce AMD fan, OmegaVader

The 2600+ is just slightly better than a P4 2.53 on average.
But it's 18% more expensive and may come out in a couple of weeks, probably more.
September 23, 2002 2:08:06 AM

Actually my system is powered by an XP 1900+. If you read into the recent press releases from AMD, you'd understand my caution since AMD is currently plagued by delays and is widely missing promises/projections. Again, I'll be surprised and will gladly eat my words if the 2600+ is readily available in 8 days like someone mentioned above.

A note about your performance comment: AMD has nothing that performs anywhere near Intel's top-o-line chips. It's already been shown the 2.66 & 2.8 outperform the 2600+ overall, and Intel will release a 3.06Ghz with hyperthreading in mid November, so AMD needs to not only get out the 2600+, but something else immediately thereafter to stay in the game. Right now, AMD's fastest chip, the 2200+, sells for about $149. P4 2GHz @ $160, the 2.26 for $189. <b>YEAH big savings there.. lol.</b> AMD <i>used</i> to be the way to go for price/performance. I can configure many P4 systems, even using PC1066, which are as little as $50 more than an AXP 2200+ config!

So no, I'm not suffering from fanboy'ism. I must suffer from realism. The reality is the 2600+ isn't available yet, and I doubt it will be in 8 days; even though it was "released" exactly a month ago today. Also the reality is I can build a system using a P4, PC1066 and OC the sh!t out of it for as little as $50 more than a 2200+ setup. <P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by nja469 on 09/22/02 10:30 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
September 23, 2002 3:16:38 AM

I wouldn't've went through all that trouble explaining. Besides, how can you compare anything to a processor that doesn't exist? You can't buy it, and theres no price. So the points made of price/value is intangible. It's a fairy tale processor....His next question is "How can I become a real boy?"

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September 23, 2002 3:23:16 AM

I remember early this year that AMD was no longer actively trying to compete with intel for the 'top of the line' processors, rather going for the mainstream.

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September 23, 2002 3:50:23 AM

Over at amdboard.com, they have a article that the 2400+ has a confirmed release date of 10/15/02. for what ever thats worth

I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE,,<--- comes out of the closet screaming i am an AMD bieocth fan boy..
September 23, 2002 7:10:00 PM

join the poor saps in the corner, waiting and holding their breath since a month ago.

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September 23, 2002 7:30:03 PM

Man, you must be real AMD fanboy. I mean, the price difference between a 2.4B P4 and a 2200+ Athlon is negligible. The "2600+" overclocks less than a P4, and it performs slightly less than a 2.5B, yet the estimated price will be higher than a 2.5B. Better value, don't make me laugh.

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September 23, 2002 9:35:23 PM

forget i said anything, yall are on crack. some of ya think the 2.6 and 2.8 is cheap (wtf is worng with u) which especially isnt true with rambus ram. and the 2600+ isnt that OC'able? read the tom's hardware article on OCing to a 3000+ equivalent and eat your own words. im out.
September 23, 2002 10:30:08 PM

In response to:
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the price difference between a 2.4B P4 and a 2200+ Athlon
is negligible. The "2600+" overclocks less than a P4, and
it performs slightly less than a 2.5B, yet the estimated
price will be higher than a 2.5B. Better value, don't
make me laugh.
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Latest price, says pricegraber.com for a P4 2.53 is $234.00 american curency. P4 2.5B is $251.51. As stated on AMD's website the 2600+ will be MSRPed at $297 and the 2400+ at $193. So, the price due to the price difference and the fact that the 2.5 with 100 mhz FSB has way better potential for overclocking, if you don't realy care about the price that much it is advisable to go with the 2.5 with 100 mhz FSB. just a thought.

If a CPU can be overclocked, try and overclock it. Do this always and forever, unless, of coarse, you have a POS ecs motherboard. In that case, thank god it runs.
September 23, 2002 11:13:18 PM

But you all fail to take in to account that the STREET PRICE for new processessors NEVER are what is announced by the manufacturer. It is expected that tha XP2600+ will go for about $199 and the XP2400+ will be around $145 or so...

We shall see.

If I was to purchase a system TODAY (not 1 week from now, not a month)...I think I would go with the 2.5 Intel...or something close to that. Since I am sitting at about 2ghz right now, I am not needing of an upgrade until Spring. Thats when I will make a decision as to which direction to go. By then, the future path of both companies will be more clear.
September 23, 2002 11:44:09 PM

I agree with Frizzle in most regards. I don't need an immediate replacement at the moment either, nor do I expect to see MSRP pricing when I go shopping. All I do know is that if I decide to upgrade later this year, if I can just plop in a new Athlon B and go with it, it'll save me $150 for a good mainboard, $350 for 512MB 1066 premium memory. So if the CPU's are the same price, I'm still ahead the game than having to switch back to Intel chipsets. Even if Intel has a faster chip. If I'm performing at 2.5Ghz+ what am I going to have trouble running for another 2 years?

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September 24, 2002 5:51:36 AM

Not to mock AMD more than they deserve (although they deserve more mocking, for esentially lying to the news media, consumers, their own mothers, etc. regarding the wonderful "launch" of the non-existent chips :) ), but this strikes me as a funny comment...
"I remember early this year that AMD was no longer actively trying to compete with intel for the 'top of the line' processors, rather going for the mainstream."

Does that sound similar to this statement..."We can't compete with Intel, because we can't produce things as quickly and fast as they can....so...we'll just try to compete with the celeron......ya", or is it just me?

Athlons and Pentiums are just melted rock. Who’s rock is better? Who cares, let’s play some games
September 24, 2002 6:23:40 AM

hehehe true

but who can tell if it was a real strategy or just a acceptance that they couldnt keep up?

i tend to think it has a bit of validity, considering the effort AMD is investing in the hammer...

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September 24, 2002 3:58:41 PM

Quote:
i tend to think it has a bit of validity, considering the effort AMD is investing in the hammer...

You mean the repeatedly delayed Hammer? ;) 

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September 24, 2002 9:22:28 PM

Attention AMD Fans.... Don't worry about all the Intel boys riding you/us. For quite a while now we had our high time with the Athlon kicking around Intel's Pentium's performance. The Athlon core is showing it's age, although they still manage to tweak it here and there and slowly(a little too slow at the moment) increase it's core speed. At the moment I will give the performance crown to Intel, AMD caught Intel with it's pants down with the Athlon, time will tell if they can once again with Hammers.

All I can say is that this bickering is pointless, because the one thing we all have to be happy about is the cheap CPU's and great performance we can get no matter what your personal taste is.


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September 24, 2002 11:45:56 PM

the question is not if intel has the performance crown, cos it does. the question is will amd survive, and if it does, will it be another apple?

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September 25, 2002 4:22:17 AM

Amd is like a battered wife, and Intel being the abusive husband, he smackes her around all the time, but sometimes she will fight back like knocking him upside the head with a Athlon XP coated fryingpan, then INTEL smacks her around a NORTHWOOD log , but she is getting fed up, so next she will crack his skull with a HAMMER.,,,,,,,,,lol

I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE,,<--- comes out of the closet screaming i am an AMD bieocth fan boy..
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September 25, 2002 5:09:39 AM

Thats unusual that you would make that comparison using a battered wife as an example. I was a juror on a murder trial where the battered wife, got battered one time too many and she blew her husband away with a double barrel shotgun. After seeing the pictures of what he did to her we turned in a verdict of not guilty and let her go, I really hope you didn't use this example so casually because thats part of your lifestyle. Well they say you reap what you sow in life, maybe I'll get to be a juror on your trial.








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September 25, 2002 5:47:03 AM

AMD may be a lot smarter than given credit, by keeping the 133Mhz FSB, a majority of the existing M/Bs already in use will be able to run the new CPUs with a BIOS flash. Can you imagine the CPUs they'll sell if we can use them without having to buy a new M/B, or RAM, the M/B manufacturers are presently testing these new processors and preparing the BIOS flashes for the M/Bs, at least the manufacturer of the M/B I own is. Its kinda nice to see the Intel flag wavers get the dust off their flags after being packed away for a couple of years. Competition is good its keeps prices in reach, could you imagine the price of a P4 if AMD wasn't in the picture, even with AMD in the picture look at the top of the line P4s price. The new AMDs are coming soon, so just be patient, good things come to those that wait.




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September 25, 2002 5:53:53 AM

Give the guy a break. I thought it was a clever play on words. That's it. It wasn't meant to be literal.



Sorry for the 2nd non-topic post in a row.

Or not.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by ltj311 on 09/25/02 01:55 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
September 25, 2002 10:16:11 AM

I doubt AMD will ever become another Apple. At AMD's high time they had 25% of market share, now it's running about 18. A large drop off when you're talking billions of dollars, but the Hammers might very well give AMD a larger push into the server market that they well need. Really hard to say at this point. Little info is available, but with all the push backs, they're either having big trouble with SOI or they're tweaking it even further because of the Xeon's or the quick ramping of the P4's.
For us the end user, we're just in a waiting game. I believe the new 2400+'s will sell very well considering the large base of supporting mainboards out. As for the Hammer, well depends how well it performs when it comes out and what the costs are.

They did extremely well in development of the Athlon series core, several years later in many regards it's still the same core and it's still going. Intel has continually changed the setup of their Pentium's but they finally got it right with the northwoods. What the future holds just remains to be seen.


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September 25, 2002 2:46:17 PM

"You mean the repeatedly delayed Hammer? ;) "

I think you're being a little cruel there.
It's just the one delay, it just keeps getting bigger.
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