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[Solved] What's best cheap laptop for BF3?

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Hello everyone, I'm looking for a great gaming laptop, with 2630/2670/2760/2860 and 6990m crossfired. Or 580m sli is better? Then tell me where I can get that for less than $1800. Yes, I'm planning to get a laptop for 40-60 fps in Battlefield 3 for only $1800 max. I'd like to have a minimum FPS of 35, though of course, the more the better. Quality: 1920x1080, I can do well without AA&AF, quality should be at least high. Is there any laptop with such graphics cards and cpu for such money?

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Hello everyone, I'm looking for a great gaming laptop, with 2630/2670/2760/2860 and 6990m crossfired. Or 580m sli is better? Then tell me where I can get that for less than $1800. Yes, I'm planning to get a laptop for 40-60 fps in Battlefield 3 for only $1800 max. I'd like to have a minimum FPS of 35, though of course, the more the better. Quality: 1920x1080, I can do well without AA&AF, quality should be at least high. Is there any laptop with such graphics cards and cpu for such money?



Buy a PC, lol j/k ;)

Ok from every test that I've seen BF3 doesn't get bottlenecked by the CPU, so you don't need anything fast or the latest. And from the benchmarks I've seen a GTX580m or 6990m will run the game fine at high or maxed details, as long as you don't apply Anti-aliasing. Gaming laptops are pretty damn powerful these days but with great power comes great cons to the actual product. Remember that the "mobile" factor is very limited as the laptop will probably weight close to 10 pounds, the battery will probably last about 2 hours if lucky, you'll have to be plugged in to a power source at all times if you're gaming and you'll be dependent on a good warranty to make the investment worth it. I don't know how much the life expectancy of these gaming laptops but if you're used to moving it around a lot and you're gaming in an area with a hot or warm climate don't expect much.


I know you're on a budget but I strongly suggest you consider the best warranty option available and if possible include accidental damage protection or whatever covers the damage done to your laptop if dropped. Remember that if the 580m gpu gets damaged or dies outside of warranty you'll be left with a laptop that's worth less than half of what you payed for.

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As long as BF3 doesn't have issues with CFX Radeon HD 6990M Crossfire should give you enough GPU power to run 1920x1080 on highest settings and a taste of AA/AF too.

Under $1800? fuggedabout it. $2400? doable.

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2 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M SLI is almost in your price range if you can come up a few hundred more.

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WR2 Could you spare me extra $600? And yes, 560m sli is in my price range, seen in Malibal. BUT. Is it as good as 6990m crossfired? Don't think. Can it do 40-45, with a minimum 35 fps? Don't think, if one 560m can do 16, as seen on www.notebookcheck.net
borden5 The smatest one? I am serious. I could, in fact, build a desktop, be it $800, 1500, 2000, 3000 or more. Any custom built pc more than $800 is good enough to play it maxed out. BUT I WANT A LAPTOP! For $1800 or so. BF3 playable. 1920x1080. 35 fps minimum.

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Message edited by miha2 on 11-01-2011 at 03:49:47 AM
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miha2 wrote :

Is it as good as 6990m crossfired?

Of course not. The 6990M CF is about $600 better.

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WR2 wrote :

Of course not. The 6990M CF is about $600 better.


:D Is 560m sli any good for BF3? I mean, can it handle 35fps min. on Caspian border?


Message edited by miha2 on 11-01-2011 at 04:31:55 AM
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You'll know for sure once BF3 is out. Before then? Who can say for certain?

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Reply to WR2

You could just buy the best laptop your budget can afford. If it can't do 35fps min. on Caspian border you'll just have to suck it up and play at what ever 'works' OK.

Otherwise wait for the game to get out & get reviewed so you know for certain what you're getting for your money.

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WR2 Dude, it's a week as BF3 is out! My budget can afford one 580m, but! Again, will it play BF3 35 fps on Caspian border? The guy on Youtube said he had 45 fps min. but didn't say his full configuration, only that he has 580m. So, I wouldn't say you're expert, since you have that status, but say such words.
By the way, is Malibal any good and should I trust them? Why or why not?


Message edited by miha2 on 11-01-2011 at 05:45:16 AM
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We have no idea. None of us have that stuff.

Malibal has a good rep as a custom gaming laptop boutique builder. Most of those boutique builders do price matching. And they pretty much all use the same hardware - Asus, MSI, Sager/Clevo barebones chassis.

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Who we? What stuff?

Neither Asus nor MSI have 580m. And barebones is a system that comes to the user and they build it. That way it's cheaper. That's what I know about desktop barebones.
So, I guess I should just stick to 580m/560m sli, I guess...

Reply to miha2

Do you need the gaming aspect of the comp to be mobile? In other words are you open to spending the same amount on a gaming desktop and a laptop combined? If the laptop only needs to do school work, then a cheap $400-500 one will be fine, then you have $1300 to spend on a gaming rig for use at home that will blow any laptop out of the water.

Reply to AxemanACL

Barebones chassis is what goes to the boutique builder. They buy in bulk and get discounts not available to a private citizen.
If you had to pay retail prices for a barebones chassis and all the parts you'd end up paying a LOT more.

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Reply to WR2

Am I speaking wrong words when I'm describing my needs? Yes, I need a portable gaming workstation. No, I don't need a desktop and a laptop. I have one laptop, which won't handle BF3, because its price is $350. So, that's why I'm looking for something like 580m/more or less to be able to play BF3!
WR2 OK. Was wrong. Though it might be just different to desktops and laptops...
By the way, if FRAPS recording fps was 25-35, what was the real fps? Watched another video, 2860m/580m/16gb. Planning to get 2630m/580m/16gb.

Reply to miha2

I play BF3 on my MSI with 570M, I get around 25-30 fps in ultra but AAx0. But I seriously think it is 5-10 fps more in real, coz I dont see any lag what so ever.

And on another note, 580M will definitely handle BF3 in 40-50 fps range. Go for it. Drop down the RAM and get an SSD. Even a SATA2 would do well.

Reply to perfectblue

Clevo 180HM @ $1,750 (w/o OS)
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sa [...] -info.html

18.4" Full HD 1920x1080 GlassView LCD
Intel Core i7-2670QM Processor, 2.2 GHz (Max Turbo Frequency 3.1GHz), 6MB Smart Cache
8GB, PC3-12800/1600Mhz DDR3 - 2 x 4GB
Dual NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M w/1.5GB GDDR5 (total of 3GB) in SLI Technology mode
500/7200rpm GB 16MB Cache Buffer SATA-300 (SATA II 3GB/s)
8X Max. DVD±R/RW Writer/Reader / 4X Max. +DL Super-Mulit Drive
8 Cells Lithium-Ion Battery Pack 89.21WH
Integrated 802.11 b/g/n + Bluetooth V3.0 Combo
Built-In 2.0M Pixels Digital Video Camera
Built-In Fingerprint Reader
Built-In Gigabit Ethernet LAN
Built-In 9-IN-1 Flash Memory Reader(MMC/RSMMC/MS/MS Pro/MS DUO/SD/Mini-SD/SDHC/SDXC)
1 Exprss Card 54/34 Slot
1 IEEE-1394a Fire Wire
3 USB 2.0 Ports (1x power USB AC/DC Port)
2 USB 3.0 Ports
1 eSATA Port (USB Combo)
1 HDMI 1.4a Output
1 DVI-I Port
1 Kensington Lock Port
Built-in Microphone, Two 1.5W and Three 2W Speakers
Built-in One 2W Sub-Woofer
4 Audio Jacks for Headphone, Microphone-In, S/PDIF-Out, and Line-In
1 100/240V Autoswitch AC Power Adapter
Standard Carrying Case with Strap

Add $80 if ya need the OS. Drop RAM down to 1333 or CPU down to 2630 if ya need to stay under $1800

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Reply to JackNaylorPE

may i just suggest you pick up a laptop with the 580m and one of these coolers,

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Maste [...] 769&sr=8-1

You can then overclock that bad boy using afterburner, with that you should be able to play at 1920x1080 with the quality you are looking for, if i am not mistaken the gtx 580m is basicaly a gtx 560 ti with slower clocks, with a bios mod, that cooler and some ic diamond thermal paste you should be able to hit the desktop clocks.

Reply to Anonymous

sli won't give you the boost of one bigger card, speaking about games. It'll just give you more fps, and in most cases it'll give you 1.5-1.85 times more. What I mean is: Dirt 3: 580m - 44, sli - 80. 80/44=1.81. Crysis 2 - 35/68; 1.94. So, sometimes more, sometimes less. It's not strict. Here, it might give mid fps of 35, might give 30, might less. What I want is 35 to be min. So, more or less, 580m fits both my budget and games. Now, what else cheap companies are out there? Malibal is one of those. Falcon NW, Origin PC, Digital Storm, Maingear are not. Which else are?

Reply to miha2

CyberpowerPC is one you can check out.

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Reply to WR2

Which exactly laptop should I be looking for? There is no one with 580m

Reply to miha2

ibuypower.com

Woulden't recomend them though.


If you want to see the difference in the cards Toms did a nice comparison.

http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 022-5.html

Reply to videogamerign

Don't forget about processor! Don't forget about the price! Please! And I didn't say it, but I prefer 17" screen. Still, Sager's is more than desired amount. I'm ready to spend less than $1800. And the rig for $7,000 - yeah, if someone gave it to me!

Reply to miha2

Haven't forgotten anything.

But you gotta 'pay to play' when you're buying laptops.
If you can't fit something you want into your budget - wait till the price drops and you can afford it.

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Reply to WR2

WR2 wrote :


If you can't fit something you want into your budget - wait till the price drops and you can afford it.


Best answer so far. But when should nvidia's 6series come out?


Message edited by miha2 on 11-01-2011 at 10:37:47 PM
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You hope to see the new stuff at the peak of the selling season which starts Black Friday.
I think the new AMD stuff will be out first though.

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Reply to WR2

Okay, the latest rumors aren't looking good.
AMD is going to push out its next series in December and Nvidia in Q1 2012. (usually a few weeks after AMD)

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Reply to WR2

Is 6990 at least any good for BF3?

Reply to miha2

It will be very good for BF3.
Even better if you can make it fit into your budget.

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Reply to WR2

3dMark Vantage scores about the same as the GTX 580M.
Performance level above the GeForce GTX 460M SLI
and roughly the same performance as a desktop Radeon HD 5850 graphics card.

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Reply to WR2

Ehm... Well, why would I even bother getting the laptop with 580m? If it's almost as good as 580m, and twice as cheap, I'll better get 6990 one! Right..?

Reply to miha2

Actual game benchmarks are pretty close too.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphic-Cards.13849.0.html
But that do show that the laptop cards are much weaker than desktop cards.

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Reply to WR2

Well, if there ever were cards with 300w for laptops, it wouldn't have been a laptop card. That's the only reason I see. So, now as nvidia has 40nm transistors, its best laptop card is like 560ti with lower clock, so it's a little better than 560. With 28nm, it might be 580 with lower clock.

Reply to miha2

It could be a lot better.
You have the smaller die process AND an improvement in the core architecture.
http://www.hardcore-games.tk/wp/nvidia-speculation.php


Message edited by WR2 on 11-01-2011 at 11:41:41 PM
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As far as there are 1500+ processors and 100w, I don't care. And, nvidia's is under Kepler.

Reply to miha2

If you do a "stupid calculation" and compare bfbc2 vs bf3 and 580m vs 560m, you'll get a rough number of 25 fps in bf3 with 580m. But again, it's just a "stupid calculation". So, now I'm looking for the numbers of fps in bf3 with 2670m+8gb+6990m. Could somebody provide me with those numbers?

Reply to miha2

You'll do better to start new topic with a title that mentions BF3 and that hardware - otherwise people won't know to look in on this topic.
You're current topic mentions 'cheap' which isn't the direction you're going.

You might also try the Games section of the forum....and of course any good BF3 forums you know about.

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miha2 wrote :

Hello everyone, I'm looking for a great gaming laptop, with 2630/2670/2760/2860 and 6990m crossfired. Or 580m sli is better? Then tell me where I can get that for less than $1800. Yes, I'm planning to get a laptop for 40-60 fps in Battlefield 3 for only $1800 max. I'd like to have a minimum FPS of 35, though of course, the more the better. Quality: 1920x1080, I can do well without AA&AF, quality should be at least high. Is there any laptop with such graphics cards and cpu for such money?



Buy a PC, lol j/k ;)

Ok from every test that I've seen BF3 doesn't get bottlenecked by the CPU, so you don't need anything fast or the latest. And from the benchmarks I've seen a GTX580m or 6990m will run the game fine at high or maxed details, as long as you don't apply Anti-aliasing. Gaming laptops are pretty damn powerful these days but with great power comes great cons to the actual product. Remember that the "mobile" factor is very limited as the laptop will probably weight close to 10 pounds, the battery will probably last about 2 hours if lucky, you'll have to be plugged in to a power source at all times if you're gaming and you'll be dependent on a good warranty to make the investment worth it. I don't know how much the life expectancy of these gaming laptops but if you're used to moving it around a lot and you're gaming in an area with a hot or warm climate don't expect much.


I know you're on a budget but I strongly suggest you consider the best warranty option available and if possible include accidental damage protection or whatever covers the damage done to your laptop if dropped. Remember that if the 580m gpu gets damaged or dies outside of warranty you'll be left with a laptop that's worth less than half of what you payed for.


Message edited by lpedraja2002 on 11-02-2011 at 01:49:59 AM
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I don't need it to work more than several hours, and I don't pretty much care how much it'll weigh. And still, with Malibal's 3 year coverage, I still do fit in a budget.

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miha2 wrote :

Hello everyone, I'm looking for a great gaming laptop, with 2630/2670/2760/2860 and 6990m crossfired. Or 580m sli is better? Then tell me where I can get that for less than $1800. Yes, I'm planning to get a laptop for 40-60 fps in Battlefield 3 for only $1800 max. I'd like to have a minimum FPS of 35, though of course, the more the better. Quality: 1920x1080, I can do well without AA&AF, quality should be at least high. Is there any laptop with such graphics cards and cpu for such money?



Buy a PC, lol j/k ;)

Ok from every test that I've seen BF3 doesn't get bottlenecked by the CPU, so you don't need anything fast or the latest. And from the benchmarks I've seen a GTX580m or 6990m will run the game fine at high or maxed details, as long as you don't apply Anti-aliasing. Gaming laptops are pretty damn powerful these days but with great power comes great cons to the actual product. Remember that the "mobile" factor is very limited as the laptop will probably weight close to 10 pounds, the battery will probably last about 2 hours if lucky, you'll have to be plugged in to a power source at all times if you're gaming and you'll be dependent on a good warranty to make the investment worth it. I don't know how much the life expectancy of these gaming laptops but if you're used to moving it around a lot and you're gaming in an area with a hot or warm climate don't expect much.


I know you're on a budget but I strongly suggest you consider the best warranty option available and if possible include accidental damage protection or whatever covers the damage done to your laptop if dropped. Remember that if the 580m gpu gets damaged or dies outside of warranty you'll be left with a laptop that's worth less than half of what you payed for.

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