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Well, not going to go and explain everything. Here is what I got prebuilt for $600 from Dell.com:

Pentium® 4 Processor at 2.40GHz with 533MHz system bus/ 512K L2 Cache
Memory 256MB DDR SDRAM at 333MHz
Keyboard Dell® Quietkey® Keyboard
Monitors 15 inch E151FP Flat Panel Display LCD
64MB DDR NVIDIA GeForce4™ MX Graphics Card with TV-Out
Hard Drive 40GB Ultra ATA/100 7200RPM
Floppy Drive 3.5 in Floppy Drive
Operating System Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
Mouse Dell® 2-button scroll mouse
DVD Drive 16x Max DVD-ROM Drive
Sound Card Integrated Audio/NIC

Can you build the same system for that much money... hmm.. don't think so. Just LCD monitor is over $300, so that leaves $300 on everything else...

it was simply amazing deal from dell on Dimension 4550.

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Err..something looks wrong here. I tried to custom-select the same components from DELL and I got a price tag of over $1200.

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Reply to AMD_Man

If ya plan to do any gaming, ya definitely do not want a LCD monitor. Get yourself a nice 19" CRT monitor. The Mitsubishi DP920 19" CRT monitor ($342 at <A HREF="http://www.mwave.com" target="_new">MWave</A> ) is very impressive.

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Reply to halkebul

That was a pretty good deal. I think its better to customize and order what you want from a place like dell then to buy a piece of crap from best buy. Of course building it yourself is the best if it is possible for youto do it.

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Reply to buddry

ViewSonic P95f and P95f+ are good, too

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Reply to Spitfire_x86

customizing and building PC's are for professionals and buying prebuilt PC's are for normal end-users.

A professional in computers shouldn't buy prebuilt systems as you slowly lose knowledge about how computers work as computers rapidly change all the time.

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Reply to xxsk8er101xx

In regards to optical drives, with your current setup you will not be able to make backup copies of your software unless ya extract the CD images in the form of ISO files to your hard drive which will take up about 650MB to 700MB per CD, but these files can be compressed using programs like winrar, winace and the like. I would go with a DVD drive and a CD burner. In this case, you can perform a simple CD to CD copy. Hmm, You are learning alot today.

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Reply to halkebul

Ahhhh...I think I figured it out....the price he paid is similar to refurb models available on Dell's website.

Reply to Methos

So the coperate sectors have no professionals? Thats a fairly bold statement. BTW if I didnt run my own computer store and get parts at cost, I would buy a dell.

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Reply to spud

your pretty bold for making such an assumtption.
I said computer profesionals. I made it pretty clear that i meant as i said which was computer professionals. Even profesionals in the context of computers anyway with a brain would figure that out that i meant clearly computer profesionals. The people that make your hardware and software computer profesionals. do you understand?



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Reply to xxsk8er101xx

No actually that whole thing made no sence to me, thx for asking though princess.

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Reply to spud

your welcome dickhead

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Reply to xxsk8er101xx

What exactly are ISO files, and how do you use them? I'm trying to get a hacked (that's right, illegal software :cool: ) to work for Neverwinter Nights. Is there some way to convert the ISO files to a normal CD, as a winzip files to a whole bunch?

Soon enough, Intel will make the i845s...imagine dual channel Sdram...*shudder*

Reply to Quetzacoatl

Far as i understand it an ISO file is just a whole copy of a CD, bitperfect. Just burn and use.

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Reply to lhgpoobaa

well, if you just want to install the game, you can get Daemon Tools and mount the images on virtual cd rom drives.

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Reply to slickstaa

anyone who would buy thier pc prebuilt is lazy and has too much money to waste

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Reply to papasmurf

Well either he got a 50% discount,or they have read some of your posts and charged you double......lol
Just kidding...:)

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Reply to vetplus40

Update on the deal:
The deal is over, so you won't be able to get the same setup. it was featured on www.dealcatcher.com. Here is the link to forums to some luck ones who got the system before the deal was over: http://forums.dealcatcher.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13491

No I am not lazy and I build computers from custom parts for me and for living, but I needed a new one for my girlfriend and I wasn't able to find the same price on custom parts especially with LCD, so this deal was the best. Great Christmas present ;)

anyway you snooze you loose, that computer is worth around $1000 and they are a lot of them selling on ebay for around 950...

Reply to zlcd

Interesting. My 11 year old is bugging me for his own pc.Dont have the time to build him one right now.Might have to check retro-box.He is infatuated with a notebook for some odd reason.

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Reply to vetplus40

Every CD burning app is able to burn ISO files. In Nero Burning Rom you can burn a ISO image to a CD using "Burn Image" command.

You can use ISO files in Virtual Drive. Get it <A HREF="http://www.farstone.com" target="_new"> here </A>. You will need to change the extention of your ISO files from ".iso" to ".vcd"

If you want to extract files form a ISO image without burning it in a CD or without using Virtual Drive, use WinRAR. WinRAR can extract files from a ISO image. Get WinRAR <A HREF="http://www.rarlabs.com" target="_new"> here </A>

BTW, do you like illegal stuff like me? :cool:

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Reply to Spitfire_x86

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BTW, do you like illegal stuff like me?



What's illegal?

Reply to IntelConvert

Illegal copies of software.

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Reply to Spitfire_x86

xxsk8er101xx I'm not a computer professional and I build my own systems. So what do you mean by professional because I'm a hobbyist!!


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Reply to groth2757

you are just nuts. Nobody has ever bought that computer for that price. Quit using untruth to instigate good argument.

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Reply to johnoh

Guess I was just confused... While discussing WinRAR, you said

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BTW, do you like illegal stuff like me?


so I thought you were implying some connection between the two.

Reply to IntelConvert

Generally speaking, building your own system doesn't really save any money, but it usually buys you superior quality and performance.

Prebuilt computers are <b>notorious</b> for using OEM versions of name-brand videocards and the like. Most people think that OEM versions are just bulk-packaged, but otherwise identical. With regard to things like mice and joysticks, that's usually true, but with video cards, it's almost <b>pure fiction</b>.

ATI is the <b>worst</b> offender, but Matrox and nVidia have joined the race to the bottom too and freely permit computer makers like Dell and Gateway to buy their chipsets and build their own cards with inferior components -- but still imply that they're just as good in their marketing literature. Sometimes, the OEM versions use SDRAM instead of SGRAM or DDR. Usually, they have inferior RAMDACs compared to the retail-boxed versions. Almost without exception, they don't support refresh rates as high as the retail-boxed versions, and the upper refresh rates they DO support are compromised (smearing and blur caused by inadequate bandwidth, slower performance from inferior RAM, etc.) And in the case of REALLY high-end cards, probably have the GPU clocked 10-25% slower than the retail versions, have inferior heat-removal apparatus, etc.

Then there's the matter of software. Sure, prebuilt computers come with lots of bundled software. And increasingly, most of it is crippled (Adobe), time-limited (Symantec), or can only be installed as part of a complete system image (Microsoft), effectively screwing you if you want to wipe the hard drive clean of the crap they put there and do a proper virgin installation. In other words, their bundled software is worthless.

Finally, there's the matter of other components. Aside from niche manufacturers like Alienware, and possibly Dell, how many prebuilt computers actually come with 7200RPM hard drives? Or, better yet, CL2 DDR and something BESIDES a HSP Winmodem? Ooooh... Did I just hear a pin drop?

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