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Pentium 4 vs Xeon vs Clawhammer

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October 25, 2002 4:26:17 PM

i'm building a new system (designing would be a better term).
primary use: gaming
secondary use: server

pentium 4 (northwood)
Clawhammer
Xeon dual

an AGP 8x card will be in the box, a RAID card as well (64 bit PCI if possible).

the timetable for this thing is about 6 months, perhaps more. it won't include the vid card from the get-go, just the core stuff...

help here.
October 25, 2002 4:47:25 PM

What best Rambus P4 , or p4 with pc2700 / or pc3200

and compared to the hammer ? actually same question so i just posted it here :) 
October 25, 2002 4:49:42 PM

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a RAID card as well (64 bit PCI if possible).

You will need a dual socket motherboard for 64-bit PCI slot. But don't think a dual socket motherboard would be worth it in this case. What kind of server: e-mail, web, file or other?

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October 25, 2002 4:52:45 PM

ok, mabye not a server server, but a game server (LAN parties), so a dualie makes sense, mostly i just want the horsepower to kick some serious FPS at high res with an 8x AGP interface, and be able to render stuff quick-like in Photoshop, Lightwave, etc.
October 25, 2002 4:55:32 PM

Sounds like a job for Dual AMD Athlon MPs. No 8X AGP support on multiple socket motherboards though.

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October 25, 2002 9:17:45 PM

server and game dont go along

Now what to do??
October 25, 2002 9:50:38 PM

He said six months I'm sure the Prescott is also a valid option.

-Jeremy

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October 26, 2002 12:51:08 AM

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He said six months I'm sure the Prescott is also a valid option.

Not really, Prescott's been pushed back to 2H03. Hammer's not really an option either in that timeframe, unless someone wants to fork over the extra $$$ for 4-way-capable Opterons.


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October 26, 2002 1:02:18 AM

What do you mean Prescott's been pushed back to 2h03? Every roadmap I ever read has shown it to be in that time frame. I think your wrong. Can you back that up with an offical Intel press release?

FYI it was the Clawhammer that has been pushed out repeatedly.
October 26, 2002 1:14:46 AM

Nope, I saw the roadmaps and it seems Intel has some about it, just wait and Kelledin shall bring it up.

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October 26, 2002 1:46:18 AM

It was rumored for 2Q03 (nothing official, apparently). Now it's 2H03. It's not even on the official Intel roadmap at all.

Take that for what it's worth.

<i>I can love my fellow man...but I'm damned if I'll love yours.</i>
October 26, 2002 2:02:37 AM

Well, Kelledin confirms it was not an official roadmap. That's the problem with so many rumers floating around. I work for Intel's R&D and they've always told us the same timeframe for its launch.
October 26, 2002 2:07:15 AM

Wow, you work for Intel?
Damn you really didn't look like it!

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I guess I just see the world from a fisheye. -Eden
October 26, 2002 2:12:40 AM

What do you mean?
October 26, 2002 2:14:16 AM

P4 w/ Hyperthreading will be the best option for gaming server.

You are limited to what your mind can perceive.
October 26, 2002 2:22:17 AM

As i say before many time presscott will not be avaible before clawhammer just look a the roadmap even intel say it have move to 2003 2 half so early Q3 if we believe Xbitlab info is true or be able to roll out for Q3 excepting that Barton is much faster and that dresden can produce this CPU for now AMD say that 2800+ so a T-bred will be avaible in 2003 i hope in early 2003 this dont give a lot of space for barton in the market if clawhammer is to be release in Q3 or AMD excepted there chip to be in mass production only in Q4 or worse.0.13 micron issue must be solve Gate lenght issue ?? and SOI low yield.

Now what to do??
October 26, 2002 2:25:06 AM

Yes intel it coming along very well with 90 NM but why introduce a 100 million transistor on lower yield increase it yield when off production much easier.

Now what to do??
October 26, 2002 2:40:44 AM

I mean I really didn't suspect you a second about being an Intel employee!

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I guess I just see the world from a fisheye. -Eden
October 26, 2002 3:36:01 AM

Yeah, I'm currently working on the 90nm and 65nm process development. The 90nm process is comming along nicely and should be ready to go early next year. The Prescott work, from what I've heard, is still on schedule although they still have issues to work out.
October 26, 2002 5:05:41 AM

Really...what campus do you work at?

Athlons and Pentiums are just melted rock. Who’s rock is better? Who cares, let’s play some games
October 26, 2002 5:22:26 AM

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