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UPDATE: Complete PC for $600 + tax from Dell

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I guess some people did no belive that what I said was true, here is part of the confirmation e-mail for my order:

2.4Ghz CPU
256 DDR2100
Geforce 4 MX
15 inch LCD..

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Looks like $700 to me, I think you rounded the wrong way.

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Reply to Crashman

Dooood! You're getting a Dell :)


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Reply to Victory

Dell's are great computers for the "typical end user". What I mean is most people would be happy with one. I personally would not match a P4 2.4Ghz procesor with a GF4 MX video card but...for most people that would offer enough performance. I also think that PC 2100 ram strangles the memory bus to that CPU. Then again if you just want to use this machine and aren't too concerned about future upgrades buy it. Most come with a recovery CD wich makes it easy to fix catastrophic errors (unless you've modified the setup then it can get tricky).

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Reply to Rubberbband

the price is 620 + tax, so the closest you would round up to 600.

I just sold custom built Pentium Celeron 900Mhz, 128MB RAM, 10GB Hard Drive, 52x CD-Rom, slimbook pc for $320, (everything else integrated) so the Dell pc is half the price plus I get LCD monitor, so I don't think you really get the point.

Reply to zlcd

I think you need to look again. $673.50 rounds to $700.00. You're better off just saying you got it for $673.50.

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Reply to dhlucke

I guess you didn't read the specs. you should read it again then make an issue about $70 difference.

Reply to zlcd

wtf do the features have to do with a the rounding??? 673.50 would round to 700 not 600.

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Reply to Tommunist

expect yourself to pay $100 for shipping

Reply to cooll

Yeah, we payed $139CDN for shipping when we got our P4 1.4GHz.

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Reply to Chuck232

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I guess you didn't read the specs. you should read it again then make an issue about $70 difference.



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Please explain what you mean by the $70 difference. You're paying closer to $700 and that's that. I'm not even discussing the system.

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Reply to dhlucke

If you think it's not a great deal then you are a definitely a hardware newbie, It's sad that some people get advices from you... well, here is some beginners info for you. Open up pricewatch.com and put a system together for that money and then come here and post the specs with the lower/same price... I know I am not going to see your post again because it will be impossible to do... hope you will learn something from that...

Here are the lowest prices as of today:
2.4Ghz Intel 533FSB - $194 (Retail)
256MB DDR2700 - $65
40GB 7200 RPM Hard Drive - $65
Geforce 4 MX - $55
15 inch LCD Monitor - $320

Etc…

Looks like I don't even have to even finish, because it's already over $675 mark... Besides, these were the lowest prices I have found and they were all in different stores, so you will need to add shipping to each component. When I tried newegg.com the price was even higher… Of course it's not top of the line system, but it's a great machine for regular homeuser. So, by getting this system, I saved about $300. Great Christmas present :)


oh and also, it comes with DDR2700 not 2100

Reply to zlcd

who makes the motherboard and what chipset is it?
how big is the powersupply? can any mobo go in this case? the point is...will you be able to actually upgrade this system? and yeah you are getting a 2.4 gig proc but will you get the performence that that proc can really provide. and since you already showed that buying these parts gets expensive (mainly the montior), doesn't that make you wonder about the quality of the parts that dell likes to not tell you anything about? I just plain don't trust Dell not to do something that is in their own interest; in business someone always gets screwed and odds are Dell isn't getting screwed.


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Reply to Tommunist

it doesn't matter if I can upgrade it or not, this computer will be used primarily for e-mail, word processing, browsing internet and nothing more and the current specs are more then enough. I do not know the details yet, because the system is still in the mail. It is scheduled to arrive next Wednesday, for some reason they shipped via USPS, but I don't care as long as it's free.

as far as quality I am not really concerned about that, it comes with the warranty and I never heard anyone complain about Dell parts. btw I had Sony laptop (brand new) a year ago and that thing was falling appart, first fan, then hard drive, then dvd-rom... then I just gave up and after fixing it I sold it right a way...

Reply to zlcd

i'm done arguing even though i see a contradiction here...

It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black.

Reply to Tommunist

... because there is nothing else to argue about... the system is cheap and end of story, if you don't count the monitor the whole computer costs $350, and I just sold Pentium Celeron 900/128MB/8GB HD for $320

Reply to zlcd

320 for a celeron based system. ouch! someone got ripped off. and they thought they were getting a totally sweet deal I'm sure. but i wouldn't subtract 300 dollars off that price for the lcd monitor b/c it's prob not worth that much but I obviously can't back that up.

It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by tommunist on 10/27/02 11:32 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

Reply to Tommunist

Its a dell. The word Ripoff is included free in the package!

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Reply to lhgpoobaa

I think your total price is actually $800 after shipping. Your link picture is shrunk so I cant see the details of your system. Anyhow it would probably cost about the same amount of money to build your own at $800 price tag with that monitor. Local pc show would reduce the price too. If your not into building your own systems for the benefits that offers the purchase fine. I guarantee that monitor has a crappy viewing angle for that price and a crappy refresh rate. I cant wait because next year you will probably be able to purcase a 17" LCD with tv and 170/170 viewing angle for $300. Hopefully by then you will be able to purchase a 17" LCD for under $500 by then that is widescreen HDTV with PIP / TV and 170/170 viewing angle. WOOT

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Reply to Hobbit

Thanks for calling me a newbie. At least I know how to round.

Besides that, I think it's a very nice present considering what you want to use it for. Your girlfriend will hopefully give you some head so that you'll remember how to round.

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Reply to dhlucke

Another one...

it's been said several times that the total price is $670 and NO you can't build the same system for $350 (without monitor)

Reply to zlcd

yea you are right, I will probably get a head from my girlfriend, but I feel sorry for you because even if you have gotten this computer you would still ended up jerking off...

Reply to zlcd

I wouldn't waste $673.50 on that PC. Hopefully it'll make your girlfriend happy.

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Reply to dhlucke

I wanna see you build a brand new system with the same specs... oh wait... you can't :)

Reply to zlcd

Why would anybody want a system with those specs?

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Reply to buddry

We have a dell-troll here. Can't You see it.
It's not the first time.The PEEP gets money for this.

2.4P4/Gf4MX=nogood+toomanybucks+delivery.

Reply to Era

Go ahead and justify your post title however you want, but $600 is a lie. You've been in America too long.

John A

Reply to johnoh

the only troll I see now is you. I don't care for dell I have my own custom built computer, but this one is gonna be for someone else. Read posts before insulting someone kid.

Reply to zlcd

enough said

Reply to zlcd

I'm just saying that by beinbg a liar you dilute your point. Yes this is a system at a good price. But quit trying to make it sound like a smart deal, just a good deal, and not one that costs $600.

John A

Reply to johnoh

John with all due respect you are so wrong and you know it, when you go shopping at the store you see a 50 inch TV for $800, you don't think about tax, you think about what a great deal and then you tell your wife or whoever that you paid $800 for it. Tax is something that you exclude from the conversation. That system costs $600 + tax, and it's a good/smart deal and if I decide to sell it on ebay I will easily make $250 - $300 on it. So I am not lying about the price, it's you who is dilusional.

Good deal is when you buy something for about $50-$150 off
Smart deal is above that.

Reply to zlcd

I usually tell people what I paid for something if they have the direct means of checking how much I paid for it you donkey.

It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black.

Reply to Tommunist

immaturity is all over...

Reply to zlcd

at least he isnt claiming that dell makes all their own processors and motherboards hehehe.

disclaimer - rebranded by dell does not mean they built them!

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Reply to jihiggs

PC2100 isnt that bad...that is if it is running cas2-2-2....which most of the higher end ddr doesnt officially support yet and run stable (especially if you are overclocking)....but I think at the end of this month there will be ddr333 available from mushkin according to their site that is 2-2-2...
as far as buying from dell...not a bad deal...but it would take someone with an ak held to my head before I went out and purchased a pc =]...
and some of the prices you listed for your products are actually cheaper on pricewatch..ie p4 2.4 533fsb on pricewatch 188 bucks
but then again I guess it serves its purpose and you do get a warranty and dell tech support (<-----lol)...so not a bad deal

Reply to Civilized

1) When I see a 50inch TV for $799 and the salesman says its under $800 I find it hard not to laugh. As if the number is not able to speak for itself.

2) Pricewatch now includes shipping just because of this point that you are on the wrong side of. People are tired of being lied to. Interstate shipping excludes tax 90% of the time. All-in prices are in. If there is tax, say so.

John A

Reply to johnoh

not sure I understand your remarks but the cost includes shipping....and if you purchase something out of state you do not pay taxes on the product...this is the final price
187.99 to be exact from econopc....

Reply to Civilized

first of all I already mentioned that the memory is DDR2700, that was my mistake.

second of all the price you found on pricewatch was for OEM and not including shipping the price I gave was for retail.

Reply to zlcd

first of all I already mentioned that the memory is DDR2700, that was my mistake.

second of all the price you found on pricewatch was for OEM and not including shipping the price I gave was for retail.

Reply to zlcd

IT DOES INCLUDE SHIPPING for the second time!!!!!!!! read...

Oem, retail..same difference...I would buy a different hsf anyways...so the price difference for oem is worth it for me

Reply to Civilized

yea, price difference retail vs. oem is $8, for that money you get 3 year warranty and a heatsink w/ fan. don't know what you trying to prove here, but it's irrelavant

Reply to zlcd

in three years I would hope to have something different...three years ago I was running an amd 350 cpu and it was phenominal at the time....lol....I think I kept it for maybe two years and even if it did explode, it was so out of date I could purchase another for about 30 bucks haha...this is my point

Reply to Civilized

or you could get a replacement for free... anyway you really missing on the point $8 doesn't make any difference it's still hella cheap system... $350 for P4 with 256MB RAM 40GB HD and G4 can't find a better deal (w/out monitor)

Reply to zlcd

ok...ok...I will compromise since I have no more bad things to say =]....yea you got a good deal...a good strong point for your purchase is that it will be alot easier to sell to someone once you did want to get rid of it because it is a name that everyone knows.....not everyone will trust your work but they will if it says Dell on it....nice argueing with ya =]
-Civ

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