Anyone had any experience with xoticpc.com?

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Hello,
Hey im on the very edge of ordering a Sager NP8170 from exotic pc and i was wondering if you guys could look over the spec below and tell me if you see anything wrong with it. Also has anyone had any experience ordering from exoticpc.com from anywhere outside of the US? I want an estimate of how much i will be paying for shipping for just the laptop rather than the sites rough estimate of anything bellow $220.

Price of my spec is £1001 (price under the assumption postage is £75)

The webpage of the laptop: http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np8170-clevo-p170hm-p-2971.html

thanks for all replys in advance

p.s. does anyone know what a wire transfer is?

Sager NP8170 / Clevo P170HM

- 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Glare Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Glossy Screen (1920x1080) (SKU - S1R506)
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2670QM, 2.2-3.1GHz, (32nm, 6MB L3 cache) (SKU - S2N224)
- - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD6990 2048MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11 $100 OFF (SKU - S3R151)
- No Video Adapter
- 8GB - DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (4 SODIMMS)
- Sager Branding
- Standard Finish
- 500GB 7200RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache) (SKU - S5R207)
- Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti DVDRW/CDRW Drive
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- ~Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Installed (64&32-Bit CD Included) w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's + Microsoft Office Starter 2010 - Included with OS Purchase
- LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime -24/7 DOMESTIC Based- Toll Free Telephone Tech Support (Labor Warranty through Xotic PC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Warranty Repairs (SKU - X9R009)
- No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
 
Hello, the specs look fine. I recently got almost the same thing myself. They did their job pretty well, I got the machine in one piece and I'm very happy with it so far.

I live in US, so I can't give you any estimate on how much it will be. I heard it mentioned that for global shipping they take something like 10% of the total price (so I guess that would be 100 pounds for you) But I cannot tell you for sure. Your best bet email or get on web based chat and talk with them to find out, they have very good support. Or you could try their forums, their staff posts there relatively often plus there's a good number of customers there that might be able to help you out.
 
Go ahead and chatup the guys @ Xotic. They'll know how much the shipping is going to be and might even be able to give you references to other satisfied customers in the UK (if there are any that agreed to be references).

Click on the picture and use the Live Chat option.
 

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Thanks guys, every post was a goldmine of information ill get right onto xotic pc forums and ask them about postage.

Thanks explaining wire transfer and checking the spec.

Just one more small question. I posted the same question (as above) on the "Escapist" forums and was advised by atleast 5 posters to go with a desktop as gaming laptops still dont have enough proper cooling and overheat after a few hours of gameplay. Is this true or can i trust a brand like sager?

Dan
 
The #1 to get a desktop is that for the same cost you get a lot more gaming power.
I know a "Radeon HD 6990M" sounds like a very powerful graphics card (and it is, for a laptop) but compared to a desktop card it's about on par with a Radeon HD 6850.
You can pick up one of those for under $150 these days. And you could upgrade it in 2 years.

Overheating? Not so much if you keep the laptop on a hard flat surface and keep the cooling system clean. And own a laptop "designed" to be good at gaming.
Slapping a bigger graphics card into a budget laptop with a wimpy cooling system is going to run the rist of overheating.
Sager (Clevo) NP8150/NP8170: Temperatures and Cooling
Big beefy cooling system = happy gamer.
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Thats alot of heatsink :D. Is it possible to throw another 6990m in there at a later date? and if so where would I get a mobile graphics card from (i know mxm and ebay might sell them but anywhere else?)

Also pcspecialist.co.uk was a great site. I found a vortex (with a smaller screen) thats on par with the pricing of Sager i was looking at from xotic pc. Know any more great sites WR2?

Hope you mind me picking your brain like this but this info is gold!. Thanks again for all the help :sol:
 
It's also a dual fan/dual heatsink model. Lot of general purpose 'gaming' laptops have a single fan and shared heatsink servicing both the CPU and GPU. 15" models might have different arrangements.
Shared fan and heatsink - Dell XPS 15z

CFX 6990M? Not with that model of chassis. You'd be looking for a system with an even beefier cooling system and larger chassis.
 

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Ah that clears that up. Do not want a shared cooling system :D

I have another question about shipping from xotic pc in america to me in the UK. The website mentions something about calculating tax for my own country so does that mean when the laptop arrives in the uk i will be charged an extra 20% Value Added Tax?
 
Yes you would. All goods imported into the UK from outside the EU must be declared to HM Revenue & Customs and in most cases, are subject to Customs duty & VAT. This includes goods bought over the Internet.
Luckily there is no import duty for computers or laptops (at least last time I checked).
 

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With tax then i cant afford a Sager :( . Know any other uk laptop sites like pcspecialist.co.uk that i can visit and prce compare?
 
Sorry; not that familiar with the UK sites.
As far as I know pcspecialist.co.uk is about the best choice anyway.
www.kobaltcomputers.co.uk would have been another good choice but it seems they went out of business recently.
 

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No because im paying near enough £1200 (including tax) with or without it because of the $100 discount you get for spending over $1500. Complicated i know :??: FYI my budget is £1100 at the very max!

Maybe i should get a laptop with a low level graphics card like a gt 560m and upgrade that at a later date.

Any websites where i can buy laptop parts or custom laptop cases (im not afraid to build my own as im quite experienced) please show me the links.

thanks for help :)
 
I actually have no idea where you'd get a retail chassis and GPU.
Suppose you could try buying retail barebones Sager/Clevo chassis and buy RAM/HDD/CPU/GPU at retail.
I'm thinking you'd end up paying more than buying from PCSpecialist.
And run the risk of a build failure. Look at the inside of the chassis above.
A LOT different from building a desktop system.
 

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2.5" ofcourse lol :D

But good work checking that :)

Ive taken a few acer aspires apart and replaced the mobos (bit of a nightmare) and one i couldnt repair so ive still got the bits including the 320gb HD :)

also another great site i found

http://www.rkcomputer.net/rkcnotebooks/
 
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