AMD Reality Check

<A HREF="http://www.amdrealitycheck.com" target="_new">www.amdrealitycheck.com</A> came to Vegas tonight and I cleaned house.

Here is a pic of the <A HREF="http://fugger.netfirms.com/amd.jpg" target="_new">loot I hauled home.</A>

AMD is coming to a city near you, and if you go I suggest showing up an hour early.

2x AXP 2400+ AIUCB 0241
2X AXP T shirts
1x AXP Polo shirt
3x AMD hats
1 nice laptop carry case
cert is for competing in battle of the boxes

There was a table with "Toms hardware Guide" at it for people to meet. for the whole time I was there no one was at that table, mostly HardOCP people.

I now own 3 AMD processors and 2 P4's

You are limited to what your mind can perceive.

Wow Fugger with an AMD combo...

Let's see if you will try to OC it with your insane cooling methods, and tell us how far it goes stable, and with performance results please!

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The worst of enemies shall be prone to later be the best of friends. -Eden

Coooooool! Lots of useless but nice stuff



<b>Is that a Sidetracked Thread I see before me? - <i>William Shakespeare, Macbeth</i></b>
Officially Certified <font color=green>Hooter Inspector.</font color=green>

Sweet man! Wanna send me an AXP? (Oh come on, I'll pay the shipping) hehe. Man I may have to hit the one in St. Louis. About how many people were there?

<font color=blue> If it ain't broke, don't fix it...tweak it.</font color=blue>

OK.. i had to come out of retirement for this one. The irony was too much to resist.

Congrats on your new AMD stuff Fugger. Are you gonna use it or ebay it?

Benchmarks are like sex, everybody loves doing it, everybody thinks they are good at it.

Cool!




Details, Details, Its all in the Details, If you need help, Don't leave out the Details.

You gotta answer questions to get products, very easy questions.

Texas, I have been looking at 762MP boards and considering doing the jumper trick to force MP operation.

Until then I am waiting on Nforce2, My MSI board is not the best overclocker and it is happy with the <A HREF="http://fugger.netfirms.com/thg.jpg" target="_new">2200+ that sits in it now.</A>

AMD is no where near as fast as Intel based systems, even with the 2400+ there will not be much of a gain (on this mobo)

So duals or Nforce2, chances are I will go with dual 2400+ and use it for folding.

Then I will ebay the whole rig! JK

You are limited to what your mind can perceive.

Congradulations FUGGER.......thats pretty awesome.....have u experimented just to see how one of those things runs??

Im upset....the closest one to me is Detroit....and im in Toronto, Ontario, Canada....thats quite a ways when I dont have a car right now =*(

<A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?id=13597" target="_new">-MeTaL RoCkEr</A>

well I'm heading to the Chicago one on the 18th(out of milwaukee myself) hopefully I'll get myself a grab bag of goodies myself. If not I'll be sorely disappointed seeing the take in that you got.


Save heating costs on your home, overclock your PC!!!

Can't beat price/performance when the parts are free

"I can't promise perfection but I'll give it a fair shot and hope that it doesn't take away from the sponteneity and good humour of the forum, which I really enjoy." - <b>WingDing</b>

ahh, you must not remember... way back when you and I had a little discussion about the merits of mustangs vs Z28's.

No. FUGGER makes or has made blanket statements that exaggerate the problems involved with the AMD platform. This is often done with malicious intent to invoke a fear response from those who may not know better. I don't know if he has changed, but as far as I'm concerned he's a troll.

Recursion - I curse then I recurse again and again

Unlike most people here I have been using both platforms for a very long time. I know first hand of the problems I have experianced. I can say for certain that the AMD platform is still weaker than the P4 stock or overclocked.

It is so ironic that AMD would invite me to the event and I would take home 2 of the top end processors. I am a few days from making a decision on the mobo, dual 2400+ might be worth checking out if the Nforce2 does not perform as advertised.

You are limited to what your mind can perceive.

If you've got good DDR you could unlock one of them, most likely run at 200MHz FSB pretty reliably with a 1/6 PCI bus clock divider M/B. No special cooling (well maybe northbridge) necessary as long as you keep the multiplier down low enough. That's what I want to try with one of those new XP's, except without the low multiplier part.

I would hate to see what those AMDs could do with some of that kind of bus speed.

Right now I'm stuck at 166MHz because I'm to lazy to RMA my corsair XMS2700CL2RAM since it only does CL2.5. by my testing. My motherboard has the 1/6 divider so I just need some good RAM.

Then you've either been very lucky, or you haven't futzed around with other platforms enough.

I've seen Intel-based systems that wouldn't always work in SMP mode, SuperMicro 440GX motherboards that would cause DPT RAID drivers to crash, EPoX and SuperMicro 440BX motherboards that couldn't handle SCSI/NIC cards without BIOS updates, Intel-based SBCs that couldn't handle anything behind a PCI bridge on the backplane, Intel-branded i810 motherboards where the BIOS stomped all over the SCSI RAID controller, another EPoX 440BX motherboard that occasionally crashed when switching from X11 to console, a Trenton 430FX SBC that can't survive in UltraDMA without manual DMA tuning, a Compaq 440BX laptop with badly broken ACPI, another 440BX where the SBLive! ended up getting toasted in its slot, three Abit 440BX motherboards that mysteriously died slow and stumbling deaths, and so forth.

On the AMD side of things, I've had a few motherboards where IDE DMA needed manual tuning, Tyan motherboards with two SMbus monitor chips sitting at the same address, an AGP glitch that was simple enough to work around, occasional AGP lockups in early VIA chipsets, and motherboards that needed high-quality memory to run rock-solid.

(Oh, plus I've got a PC164LX with as-yet-untraced flakiness in the IDE controllers. I was already converting it to SCSI anyways, so who cares?)

Intel platforms have given me just as much headaches as all the AMD platforms I've worked with. Is it Intel's fault? Usually not. Is it AMD's fault if the platform doesn't always do what you think it should? Again, usually not. Does going with Intel guarantee a problem-free platform? Nope.

<i>I can love my fellow man...but I'm damned if I'll love yours.</i>

Chipsets were a large part of the problem, maybe half. overheating is another sore spot. I just hope that if I do go duals they work correctly as MP. I need to see more Nforce2 reviews and benchmarks.

You are limited to what your mind can perceive.

Cheers MeTaLrOcKeR! it was long ago. I think your username is more memorable than mine.

I'm all registered and ready to go for the 25th in Boston, MA!! Is there anyone else going to the Boston one?

-TheGame-