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November 22, 2002 10:03:32 PM

Looking to upgrade this slow P.O.S. 440LX/PII system. Thinking of the following:
1) SOYO SY-TISU $65
2) Crucial Micron 256mb cl-2 Pc133 $40 x 2=$80
3) Celeron (PIII based) 100mhzfsb .13 micron 1.1g $45

Hoping to run the Celery at 133fsb for 1463 Mhz and get a system many times faster than this PII for less than $200. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Any other ideas on how to get the best bang for the buck? $200 budget. Planing to use the rest of my existing system: Gateway case and 200w power supply, 20gig maxtor HD, 4 gig Western digital HD, Geforce 2 GTS-V graphics card, old creative sound blaster card, and generic dial-up modem.

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November 22, 2002 10:20:48 PM

This is what I have: asus p4s533 (refurbished) $39.
P4 1.8a retail ($147)
Generic 256 meg pc2100 ($60)
I would wait and save just a little more for the p4 setup. For most people 256 megs of ddram is enough. You can always get more later. Newegg is a good vender for service and reasonable shipping rates. I get my memory elsewhere, as their memory prices are a little high.
November 22, 2002 10:26:49 PM

i think your 200w psu may be a worry.perhaps it would be wise to get a 300w-they are very cheap.

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November 24, 2002 12:29:25 AM

Well it's not a matter of saving up more, it's just that's all I can justify to blow on a box of silicon. All I use it for is web surfing and an occasinal game, and it's hard to find a game that will play smoothly on this old relic now Hahaha. Just looking to get the best upgrade possible for a couple hundred bucks so I can play a couple games.
November 24, 2002 12:37:55 AM

I was wondering if 200w would be enough to run something somewhat modern. Part of the reason I was thinking of the Tualatin Celery was that I thought they are fairly low power cunsumption processors. I was under the impression that the P4 and AMD processors are quite power hungry. (Also don't want to pay for RDRAM or DDR..........Yeah I'm trying to be CHEAP!!!!)
November 24, 2002 3:52:28 AM

Athlon XP1700 $60.00
Asus A7N266VM $68.00
Crucial 256MB PC2100 DDR $77.00
Allied 350 W P.S. $22.00
Speeze 5F263B1MS $8.00
Total $235.00
All from Newegg.
A little more money ($35.00) a LOT more performance
November 24, 2002 4:07:20 AM

Also, I might add that I would not count on the Soyo board running that Celeron at 133 fsb...Soyo boards are not known to be the best overclocker's. And Socket 370 is dead, no new CPU will be built for it.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by br408408 on 11/24/02 11:22 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
November 25, 2002 1:26:19 AM

Found the CL-2 PC133 Crucial memory for $32.39 X 2=$64.78 on the Crucial web site, which drops the total price of this upgrade to less than $175. That is if my 200w P.S. will run it. Any other input is appreciated.
I've considered a low cost AMD solution but I have read many posts about VIA chipsets and the mixed results people have had. Same goes for the cheap ECS boards with the SIS chipset. Just don't need the headaches.
I'd like to build a completely new modern system based on NForce2 but can't justify the price for what I use a computer for.
November 25, 2002 2:47:47 AM

The Asus A7N266VM uses an nForce 220D North Bridge, and an nForce MCP-D South Bridge...not a Via Chipset...go to Newegg and check it out for yourself...but I think you have your mind made up on a Socket 370.
November 27, 2002 7:39:00 PM

"Bump"

Last call for opinions before I place my order please. The Crucial Ram was listed at $30.59 per 256mb stick last night making this upgrade pretty inexpensive ($171.38)
Any known issues with Soyo TISU ,Tualatin 1.1a Celeron,or Intel 815 chipset? Will my 200w PS run this? Will the 1.1a Celery O/C to a 133 FSB with retail HSF?
I understand that the socket 370 platform is slightly dated and lack-luster compared to todays 3ghz P4 and Nforce2 XP 2800+ systems, but compared to the 440LX/PII I'm using the WOW factor should be quite good for less than $175.
November 27, 2002 10:53:10 PM

Hmmmm.

You can get a KT133a chipset for $55. And a Duron 1.3ghz for $32. A cooler that will run stock speeds for $10.

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November 27, 2002 11:29:27 PM

I've just read too many posts on this and other forums about VIA chipsets having lots of "bugs" and incompatibilities ,especially the older chipsets.
November 28, 2002 3:08:53 AM

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Any known issues with Soyo TISU ,Tualatin 1.1a Celeron,or Intel 815 chipset?

Not that I know of.

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Will my 200w PS run this?

Yes, with one CD-ROM and one HDD it shouldn't be a problem.

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Will the 1.1a Celery O/C to a 133 FSB with retail HSF?

95% Yes.

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I understand that the socket 370 platform is slightly dated and lack-luster compared to todays 3ghz P4 and Nforce2 XP 2800+ systems, but compared to the 440LX/PII I'm using the WOW factor should be quite good for less than $175.

Yes.

*Dual PIII-800 @900 i440BX and Tualeron 1.2 @1.74 i815*
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