Chaotic Good and Intimidate?

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A good friend of mine who plays with us insists that Chaotic Good
characters cannot use the Intimidate skill without suffering alignment
shift, because it specifically says in the alignment description that
they abhor those who intimidate others.

Is this true?

- Ron ^*^

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Peter Meilinger wrote:
> Werebat <ranpoirier@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>>A good friend of mine who plays with us insists that Chaotic Good
>>characters cannot use the Intimidate skill without suffering alignment
>>shift, because it specifically says in the alignment description that
>>they abhor those who intimidate others.
>
>
>>Is this true?
>
>
> Is there anything in the alignment rules that says you change
> alignment when you hate yourself? Seriously, just because a
> character does something he doesn't like out of necessity
> doesn't mean his alignment is going to change. If you really
> want to take the alignment descriptions seriously, I'd
> expect CG characters to avoid intimidation and limiting
> the options of others, but an outright ban is just dumb.

Could he insist that a fellow party member not intimidate others?

Could he intimidate them into not intimidating others?

What about a threat of consequences if the intimidation doesn't stop?
Is this not a form of intimidation itself?

- Ron ^*^

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Werebat <ranpoirier@cox.net> wrote:

>Could he insist that a fellow party member not intimidate others?

I suppose he could try, but that'd be working to limit the
choices of others. Bad CGer!

>Could he intimidate them into not intimidating others?

>What about a threat of consequences if the intimidation doesn't stop?
>Is this not a form of intimidation itself?

I think the safest thing for a Chaotic Good character to do
would be to sit in a dark corner hoping no one ever interacts
with him. If they do, he's just doomed to lose his alignment
one way or another.

Pete

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On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 11:04:30 -0400, Werebat <ranpoirier@cox.net> dared
speak in front of ME:

>
>A good friend of mine who plays with us insists that Chaotic Good
>characters cannot use the Intimidate skill without suffering alignment
>shift, because it specifically says in the alignment description that
>they abhor those who intimidate others.
>
>Is this true?

It's as true as saying that an Evil character cannot like puppys.
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Werebat wrote:
> A good friend of mine who plays with us insists that Chaotic Good
> characters cannot use the Intimidate skill without suffering alignment
> shift, because it specifically says in the alignment description that
> they abhor those who intimidate others.
>
> Is this true?

It depends on who is being intimidated. If it is a bunch of
innocent peasants, I'd say that it would be out of character,
especially if it was a Robin Hood type.

But if it was a burly and cruel town guard who regularly
terrorized the local populace, he might enjoy giving the lout
a taste of his own medicine.

Take Wesley from "Princess Bride". He had no problem
intimidating Prince Humperdink...

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Kaos wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 11:04:30 -0400, Werebat <ranpoirier@cox.net> dared
> speak in front of ME:
>
>
>>A good friend of mine who plays with us insists that Chaotic Good
>>characters cannot use the Intimidate skill without suffering alignment
>>shift, because it specifically says in the alignment description that
>>they abhor those who intimidate others.
>>
>>Is this true?
>
>
> It's as true as saying that an Evil character cannot like puppys.


They do! For brunch, that is...

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Chaotic Good characters are all about freedom and the greater good. I don't
see how that precludes using intimidation judiciously. If the CG character
uses intimidate to get a table in a bar or frighten merchants into lowering
their prices, then you've got an alignment conflict. But using the skill to
squeeze the location of a kidnapped child out of an NPC certainly doesn't
conflict with the character's alignment.
It's a DM's job to make fair, balanced decisions on a case by case basis.
Even the WoTC rule books make it clear that its up to the DM to decide how
those rules are applied. And he (or she) has the option to ignore any rule
that harms or hinders the game. Such a literal interpretation of alignment
makes the game virtually unplayable.

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drow wrote:

> Alien mind control rays made Werebat <ranpoirier@cox.net> write:
>
>>A good friend of mine who plays with us insists that Chaotic Good
>>characters cannot use the Intimidate skill without suffering alignment
>>shift, because it specifically says in the alignment description that
>>they abhor those who intimidate others.
>>
>>Is this true?
>
>
> *SMACK*

Are you trying to intimidate me?

- Ron ^*^